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Okay the pro core concept people have said enough to convince me that yeah, it's no worse than the old fashioned computational method. That said, they've also assured me how ridiculously delusional anyone is who thinks it's at all simpler than the old method. Note the proponents spending long paragraphs with complex formula to explain simple addition and claiming "see, that's how you do it in your head already!" And everyone taught the old way says "uh, no it's not." Then very briefly and succinctly explains the computational process.
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LoonShia posted:For the love of Dog, Meowntresor!
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Oh cool, 71 new posts in the funny picture thread! Oh... Math.
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My fourth grade math teacher always told us that we needed to know how to do this stuff in our head because "we wouldn't be able to carry a calculator everywhere." One of these days I'm going to track him down and just silently hold out my iPhone.
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SHUT UP ABOUT MATH AND POST FUNNY PICTURES, NERDS!  
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Tiny Lowtax posted:Oh cool, 71 new posts in the funny picture thread! You're not helping. If you want to help, post some funny pictures so that other people can quote them and tell you that they're not actually very funny. For example:   
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SatansBestBuddy posted:
Pus my neg hole.
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There's a story behind this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN9LZ3ojnxY
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Angela Christine posted:1=0.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999...? Where is the significant digit? The new Myst looks purrfect. VendaGoat has a new favorite as of 19:39 on May 14, 2015 |
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13Pandora13 posted:There's a story behind this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zN9LZ3ojnxY Lolllllllllllll. loving conversion factors.
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Choco1980 posted:Okay the pro core concept people have said enough to convince me that yeah, it's no worse than the old fashioned computational method. That said, they've also assured me how ridiculously delusional anyone is who thinks it's at all simpler than the old method. Note the proponents spending long paragraphs with complex formula to explain simple addition and claiming "see, that's how you do it in your head already!" And everyone taught the old way says "uh, no it's not." Then very briefly and succinctly explains the computational process. It's not supposed to be simpler. It's supposed to be a possibly more complicated way that allows you to understand how and why it works. For addition it's not such a big deal but by the time you get to long division none of the students have a damned clue of why it's supposed to work besides "that's what teacher told us and it seems to give the right answer." Unfortunately it's pretty unfamiliar for current teachers so you occasionally get bumbling/confusing explanations for problems inspired by the new standards. Anyway, content: 
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Skeesix posted:Anyway, content: Idgi. But that quote itself is pretty UAG cos it sounds more like an MRA talking about his fedora.
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Backweb posted:Idgi. But that quote itself is pretty UAG cos it sounds more like an MRA talking about his fedora. She's saying that she's so hot, she wears her hijab to give the other women a chance with the men.  
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incorrect https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YxaaGgTQYM efb
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I was farting around on Khan Academy a few weeks back and it gave me a negative number plus a negative number problem. I realized I had never been taught WHY that makes a positive number and had to really look around for answers beyond "because it just is and math is correct or incorrect". Same thing for why you can invert and multiply when dividing fractions. I say if kids are learning the why these days then good, even if it does look convoluted. Also I have a story about funny pictures and it's that I told a story about math and then posted one 
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I'm pretty sure a negative plus a negative does not equal a positive
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Davinci posted:I'm pretty sure a negative plus a negative does not equal a positive See this is why kids are better at math. I meant positive minus negative 
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What if one of them is a double-negative?
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FadedReality posted:See this is why kids are better at math. I meant positive minus negative That still might not be a positive number, do you mean a negative multiplied by a negative?
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:That still might not be a positive number, do you mean a negative multiplied by a negative? A positive minus a negative should always be positive. Subtraction of a negative is equivalent to addition of a positive, and positive+positive is always going to be positive.
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Skeesix posted:It's not supposed to be simpler. It's supposed to be a possibly more complicated way that allows you to understand how and why it works. For addition it's not such a big deal but by the time you get to long division none of the students have a damned clue of why it's supposed to work besides "that's what teacher told us and it seems to give the right answer." And if people actually explained this instead of going on and on about how "It's how you already think of the problem in your head! " while everyone else was like, "uh, no you're full of poo poo" this derail would have ended much sooner. Thanks for that much better reasoning for the method, as I'm definitely the sort that have no freaking clue how something like dividing fractions is supposed to work in real life even though I can do it on paper.
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And THIS is what Common Core is really about; it's not a "curriculum", so the entire bloated district curriculum department doesn't really get to run it like they always have run curriculum. Districts here in Florida didn't have any actual test-prep materials at the start of the year. Because 38 states have Republican governors, and the rest of them don't give two shits about education on average, the average training a teacher has received in how to IMPLEMENT Common Core has been haphazard and insufficient. And of course all of this is happening while teachers are getting their planning times cut, when this mandate that we all move to a Total Testing Environment is something that runs totally counter to all the years we spent in school trying to achieve that difficult task of getting a room full of 30 children to actually retain information when your hands are tied by this new unfunded mandate. Trust me. I've been teaching for a decade. This whole thing has been a death knell ringing across the country. Teachers are quitting and retiring in droves. It doesn't make a poo poo bit of difference if God himself crapped out a Golden Tablet called Common Core, the structural problems in American education make it impossible to implement, and without teachers effectively implementing this poo poo, the result is confusion and misery for everyone. God, I love the PYF Funny Pictures Thread. 
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Quidam Viator posted:And THIS is what Common Core is really about; it's not a "curriculum", so the entire bloated district curriculum department doesn't really get to run it like they always have run curriculum. Districts here in Florida didn't have any actual test-prep materials at the start of the year. Because 38 states have Republican governors, and the rest of them don't give two shits about education on average, the average training a teacher has received in how to IMPLEMENT Common Core has been haphazard and insufficient. Floridian here as well and I've had teachers tell me it MIGHT work if they had rolled out Common Core starting with Kindergarten, then next year expand it to 1st Grade, then 2nd, etc. but there's way too much private money at stake. Instead you had kids and teachers alike coming back to school from one year to the next being told every way they've learned up until now is trash and this is the new poo poo. I've also been told the amount of test prep makes what we already thought was bad with FCAT look tame. One teacher I know quit entirely after a year of being berated and threatened with being fired because the special education kids were incorporated into her classroom and were bringing down the test scores.
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Check your fly, bro.
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Hockles posted:Check your fly, bro. I had missed that so with all my heart 
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Dear Parents, If you never understood or liked math as a kid you're probably not gonna understand your child's math homework either. Try not to gently caress up your kid's interest in education by being a raging rear end in a top hat to their already stressed out and overworked teachers. If your kids need help with their homework, perhaps you can look into resources at their school that're more familiar with the curriculum than you are. If such resources are unavailable, I'm sure the school would greatly appreciate you championing to your congressperson them getting more funding. Wait, sorry, no. Pretend I said something about bootstraps.
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