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MindSet posted:is it better than Rome 2 because I got burned by that and I'm not sure I want to get Atilla yet I didn't play Rome 2.
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Jackie D posted:Should I play victoria 2 People say its a good game but as far as I can tell it's an old-paradox style jumble of incomprehensible mechanics, so uh, maybe?
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Jackie D posted:Should I play victoria 2 it's definitely a harder learning curve than ck2 or euIV, but it's more about figuring out the backwards rear end ui than anything else. once you're over the hump it's p fuckin rad though, the only paradox game to make internal development A Thing and also Fun, and the global scene tends to stay pretty dynamic all the way through (unlike euiv where immovable blobs naturally metastasize in the mid to lategame).
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Larry Parrish posted:People say its a good game but as far as I can tell it's an old-paradox style jumble of incomprehensible mechanics, so uh, maybe? *picks up a chair and tosses it into the wall* loving NOOBS!
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vicky is very flawed but still worth playing, imho. don't play a tiny garbage nation on your first game, and probably don't play the usa, since I hear they get spammed with annoying garbage events.
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I think Japan is the best beginner game even though they have to Westernize. It's easy though. Especially since you get research points for conquest. Try to grab Johore before Brits get too friendly with them (gold mines) and try to get Korea before you westernize so that it becomes full states that you can build industry in. Japan has high enough base literacy that a bunch of illiterate Koreans and Malays aren't gonna hurt you too much
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Prussia and crap probably are not good noob games just because as Prussia/Germany you'll probably have to fight like a 3 front war if you play aggressive enough. Russia is kind of fun. I liked going commie and then enforcing commie on all my neighbors.
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My favorite thing from V2 is that countries names change based on ideology or whatever. It's a small thing but it's cool to me.
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Fuligin posted:brazil is the classic v2 noobie game All of South America is a snooze fest to me.
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I need Victoria 3 really bad. Ideally with something to replace the retarded market system where higher prestige countries get first dibs on goods.
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Larry Parrish posted:My favorite thing from V2 is that countries names change based on ideology or whatever. It's a small thing but it's cool to me. Also flags. And country colors for some (like red communist Russia, green monarchist Russia).
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May 15, 2015 00:04
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Figuring out what bad rear end communist and fascist flags to use for the country is the best part of modding Vicky 2
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May 15, 2015 00:10
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Check out the Babylon fascist flag
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That's a badass flag, IMO.
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POPs Ftw.
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vicky 2 is hella flawed but worth a shot just to experience it
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Czechoslovakia makes a good trial by fire beginners game once you got the ui down. Start as Austria, release it, and now your a small, densely populated country with good resources, no navy to waste rp on, and stuck in between 3 great powers. 
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Babylonian tiamat flag ftw
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Thank you for your input, I'm going to play it
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May 15, 2015 14:54
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Cool non-retarded and gamey way of gaining imperial authority
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DICKHEAD posted:Cool non-retarded and gamey way of gaining imperial authority Don't sign your posts.
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When the new EU4 expo comes out I'm gonna play. After they patch the initial bugs, of course.
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I've been feeling like some ck2 lately. Might try the old Roman republic game. *looks out onto the horizon* My white whale....
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Knuc U Kinte posted:I've been feeling like some ck2 lately. Might try the old Roman republic game. *looks out onto the horizon* My white whale.... I think the latest expansion I have is the one that allows start date 864 or something. I started a game as western Francia, and soon after a few lucky successions I controlled pretty everything north of spainlands and half of what hasn't become Holy Roman Empire yet. Then I got a casus belli for Italy and everything just kept on steamrolling. Soon I was diddling around in the Byzantine Empire. I found the new Roman empire in a bit over 100 years from game start and controlled pretty much everything around the mediterranean. Only pagans and Britain avoid my wrath. It's been the only game where I've gotten really lucky with succession and casus bellis and boy it shows. I don't know what to do now that I have literally no threats (within or without). I can make Rome my capital and restore papacy in rome, in addition to having some odd casus bellis about restoring Rome's borders, but other than that, is there anything to do except wait for (and crush) the mongols? E: and the Aztecs lol. SnowblindFatal fucked around with this message at 22:00 on May 17, 2015 |
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SnowblindFatal posted:I think the latest expansion I have is the one that allows start date 864 or something. I started a game as western Francia, and soon after a few lucky successions I controlled pretty everything north of spainlands and half of what hasn't become Holy Roman Empire yet. Then I got a casus belli for Italy and everything just kept on steamrolling. Soon I was diddling around in the Byzantine Empire. I found the new Roman empire in a bit over 100 years from game start and controlled pretty much everything around the mediterranean. Only pagans and Britain avoid my wrath. I've done SPQR before. I want to like start as amalfi and usurp the byz crown and turn it into a merchant republic. Every time I try I get bored when my first claim fails or I can't get a claim etc.
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Knuc U Kinte posted:I've done SPQR before. I want to like start as amalfi and usurp the byz crown and turn it into a merchant republic. Every time I try I get bored when my first claim fails or I can't get a claim etc. What's SPQR and how do you turn a feudal kingdom into a republic? Also how do you make unhappy republic counties/duchies feudal? I'm basically a self-learned CK 2 noob but I'm doing well so what the hell.
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As a republic, any tittle you take will be republican. And don't turn vassal republics into feudal a. They're easy to manage and build your economy by making trade posts around the oceans. You can take the whole Indian coast from an Egyptian republic, for instance Average Bear fucked around with this message at 00:20 on May 18, 2015 |
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Anyone else doing a Gothic run
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I've been doing it and its really tough. You need like a 1 in 20 lucky start and then its still pretty rough expanding. Horde land sucks. I got lucky and the PU with poland never fired so lituania was easy pickings with Russia.
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whoooa momma Placate Local Rulers This can be done on both vassals and marches, and lets you pay prestige (if you have positive prestige), to reduce the liberty desire of that subject by 10%. Embargo Rivals This is a toggle you can put on any subject. If it is on they will embargo all your rivals as quickly as their diplomats can travel. However, this increases their liberty desire by 5% while active. Place Relative on Throne This can only be done on vassals, and only when they have a regency. You can replace the regency with a ruler from your own dynasty. Enforce Religion This can only be done on vassals, unions and marches. This is possible if the subject is in your religious group, have less than 50% of Liberty Desire, and you have positive relations. Of course, this increases Liberty Desire by 50%, so its something you have to evaluate when it is desirable to do. Scutage This is a toggle that can be set to on or off on a vassal. When it is on, they will not be called into wars, unless declared war upon. However, they will provide 50% more of its income to you. Subsidize Armies This is a toggle in marches, where if on, you will send up to 10% of your manpower to them each month, to fill up their manpower pool. Fortify March This allows you to build or upgrade a fort in a march, where you as overlord fronts the build costs. Enforce Culture This is the option if you got some diplomatic power to burn. You can swap the primary culture of a lesser union partner to your culture for a power cost, but this is only doable if they are below 50% liberty desire and it will increase it by 50% as well. Siphon Income Unions usually do not provide money to their overlord, but history is full of rulers who took from one part of their realm to provide for another. This action lets you take 50% of a lesser union partners yearly income if you have positive relations. It will increase liberty desire by 10% but also reduce relations rather dramatically. Support Loyalists Unions don’t have any local ruler that needs to be placated, so instead you have a toggle where you spend 10% of their monthly income each month, while reducing liberty desire by 20% as long as its active.
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Ohhh poo poo wonder how that will work on an aztec game. Really makes vassal heavy easy modo more challnging.
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man i didn't think the next dlc would be near as substantial as Art of War but all this has kind of blown me away
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Apparently trade companies, colonial nations, and protectorates are also going to have unique interactions...
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This expansion really is EU5, god drat
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I'm gonna hold off playing any more EU4 till this shiznit comes the f out
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do imp mapgamers have a country they always play on the release of every new expansion? mines byz
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Brandenburg/Prussia.
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