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How is he not better prepared for this topic? It's almost like his foreign policy advisor was W....
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Wheeee posted:I get the impression that beneath the aristocratic upbringing and education that Jeb is even dumber than Walker. Literally impossible.
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May 14, 2015 22:41
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I'm just sorta marveling that Jeb was apparently blindsided by perhaps the most obvious question imaginable. You'd think he would have a had a drilled response to this from about the time he first thought he might take a stab at elected offices again. What is going to happen to this guy when people really start digging at him?
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May 14, 2015 22:50
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messagemode1 posted:How is he not better prepared for this topic? I bet they don't even talk about that "old poo poo," and probably just talk about who to butter up for the most dosh and what books they've been readin'
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May 14, 2015 23:06
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Voyager I posted:I'm just sorta marveling that Jeb was apparently blindsided by perhaps the most obvious question imaginable. You'd think he would have a had a drilled response to this from about the time he first thought he might take a stab at elected offices again. Republicans must be crossing their fingers for some kind of comparable (Benghazi) question to hit Hillary with similar results.
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May 14, 2015 23:15
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Nonsense posted:I bet they don't even talk about that "old poo poo," and probably just talk about who to butter up for the most dosh and what books they've been readin' I'm sure most foreign policy conversation in that group is which middle eastern country to invade this time, and how to justify it. ISIS totally puts Iraq on the table.
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May 14, 2015 23:15
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Vienna Circlejerk posted:This man wants to be President and can't even stand up to his own brother. Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Jeb Bush thinks that fourth time is the charm with Iraq: So it turns out W. was the smart one, and JEB really is GOB to his Micheal Bluth. Honestly didn't see that coming. Maybe he should arrive at all his campaign appearances on a Segway labeled "PRESIDENT", accompanied by "The Final Countdown" as his official theme song.
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May 14, 2015 23:37
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Deep Hurting posted:
George I'm not a politician...I'm a Statesman!
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May 14, 2015 23:40
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A politicians is something a whore does for money.
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May 14, 2015 23:44
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Nobody really believed the republicans when they said that gay marriages would become mandatory and yet here we are.
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May 15, 2015 00:06
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Jeb Bush thinks that fourth time is the charm with Iraq: ISIS has been stopped in its tracks by US air power. The Kurds put up a good fight, but without air strikes, they were being defeated until the US and allies stepped in. US troops will probably be needed to retake Mosul, as the Kurds aren't interested in the job, and the Iraqi military is probably not able to do the job.
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May 15, 2015 00:07
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Can someone give me a reason to not fear a Marco Rubio candidacy? Initially I dismissed him out of hand because he committed the cardinal sin of not being old and white, but he's actually managed to run a campaign so far not riddled with mistakes and other than inexperience he has no obvious flaws. Am I the only one who's worried that the racists will vote for him in an attempt to prove they're not racists, the business wing will love him, and the evangelicals will bend over and take it because he's not a filthy Demoncrat lieberal? I'm sure that I'm missing something that makes him just another member of the clown show, but other than the water bottle incident I'm having trouble.
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May 15, 2015 00:15
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Rincewinds posted:Nobody really believed the republicans when they said that gay marriages would become mandatory and yet here we are. With democrats, it used to be, "im gay" Now it's, "your gay" Vote Cruz. Save America.
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May 15, 2015 00:16
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Alter Ego posted:Can someone give me a reason to not fear a Marco Rubio candidacy? Initially I dismissed him out of hand because he committed the cardinal sin of not being old and white, but he's actually managed to run a campaign so far not riddled with mistakes and other than inexperience he has no obvious flaws. The only reason he's polling well is that he hasn't been in the spotlight. He's not nearly the inevitable option that Mitt Romney was in 2012.
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May 15, 2015 00:17
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Alter Ego posted:Can someone give me a reason to not fear a Marco Rubio candidacy? Initially I dismissed him out of hand because he committed the cardinal sin of not being old and white, but he's actually managed to run a campaign so far not riddled with mistakes and other than inexperience he has no obvious flaws. The election isn't for like a loving year and a half. Literally nothing has happened yet. It's too early to know anything.
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May 15, 2015 00:18
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computer parts posted:The only reason he's polling well is that he hasn't been in the spotlight. He's not nearly the inevitable option that Mitt Romney was in 2012. Well, no, obviously, because Bush and Walker are in the field and gunning for the same voters.
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May 15, 2015 00:18
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Given that the establishment plays a much bigger role in selecting candidates than the evangelical base (although it's sure loud and consistent in picking losers) I think Rubio is by far the most threatening candidate. His biggest card is his youth, and I feel that plays very well against Hillary and her looking forward campaign. It's possible his positions on foreign policy isn't up to snuff, and I guess he has little legislative experience. Both of those things are outweighed by him being a competent Hispanic candidate in an election that will hinge on Latino turnout (for the Dems, in terms of recreating the Obama coalition). I agree that it's incredibly early to predict anything. For example, Rubio could turn out to have cripppling dehydration issues during the debates.
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May 15, 2015 00:20
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computer parts posted:George I'm not a politician...I'm a Statesman! taqueso posted:A politicians is something a whore does for money. "Yeah, like the guy with the $1100 Apple Watch needs Obamacare... COME ON!"
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May 15, 2015 00:20
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computer parts posted:I remember fantasy too. So then everybody said "Fair enough Mr President, we'll say no more about it then. Certainly no need for a massive congressional investigation leading to the criminal indictment of half your senior cabinet". Scot free!
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May 15, 2015 00:21
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Series DD Funding posted:"The FEC" has not said that, a democratic member has. And the FEC's weekly reports of completed enforcement actions indicate otherwise. "A Democratic member" who also happens to be the chairwoman of the commission. It's obvious enough to anyone watching that avoiding PAC coordination is a wink wink, nudge nudge situation, who do you think you're kidding?
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May 15, 2015 00:26
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Deptfordx posted:So then everybody said "Fair enough Mr President, we'll say no more about it then. Certainly no need for a massive congressional investigation leading to the criminal indictment of half your senior cabinet". Teflon President. 
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May 15, 2015 00:27
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An Apple a day keeps the doctor away.
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May 15, 2015 00:33
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Lemming posted:With democrats, it used to be, "im gay" My gay!!!
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May 15, 2015 00:33
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Parachute posted:Republicans must be crossing their fingers for some kind of comparable (Benghazi) question to hit Hillary with similar results. How Hillary Clinton handles her Iraq War vote will matter a lot if she wants to hit JEB on that issue, but all his flip-flopping will help her considerably since it'll be easier to redirect questions to how much of a hash the Bush family has made of Iraq. Hell, him saying America needs to re-invade Iraq fits well with accusations that electing Bush will lead to another American military adventure in the Middle East, like his brother and his father before him. What is with the Bush family and Iraq? The Middle East is a big place but they and their friends just keep going back to Iraq.
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May 15, 2015 00:37
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:"A Democratic member" who also happens to be the chairwoman of the commission. It's obvious enough to anyone watching that avoiding PAC coordination is a wink wink, nudge nudge situation, who do you think you're kidding? Can you explain the motive and rationale behind the coordination rules, and how the PACs are evading them?
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May 15, 2015 00:37
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Series DD Funding posted:Can you explain the motive and rationale behind the coordination rules, and how the PACs are evading them? The laws are in place so that campaigns and donors can't avoid contribution limits by just funneling spending through PACs. Perhaps you've been out of the country for the last few years or just not paying attention and need to catch up, but the idea that these laws are being followed beyond a thin veneer of plausible deniability is laughable. e: Here's some documentation from the FEC if you'd like some background: http://www.fec.gov/pages/brochures/indexp.shtml
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May 15, 2015 00:44
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Jeb Bush is coming across as a lazy candidate. As if his approach were that none of this matters until he officially announces and he can phone it in until then. Even retaining all the major neocon Iraq players from his brother's administration seems lazy. Yes, each party has a somewhat limited talent pool, but it shouldn't be impossible to avoid having Wolfowitz and the most recognizable names anywhere near his candidacy. In other news, the sky, she is falling! quote:Hillary Clinton trails a generic Republican presidential candidate by double digits among voters in six important battleground states, according to a new poll from the GOP firm Vox Populi.
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May 15, 2015 00:51
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Are they saying that Republicans have the party ID advantage? If so, lol.
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May 15, 2015 00:55
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Any situation which ends in "Florida Man Elected as POTUS" is bad, and the GOP has two such Florida Men in their lineup.
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May 15, 2015 00:55
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^^^^If they don't already, I'm sure the Onion is working on some prime "Florida Man Found Running Presidential Campaign" material.Zoran posted:Are they saying that Republicans have the party ID advantage? If so, lol. I remember the bang-up job Karl Rove did in 2012 predicting the race, I'm sure we can trust his PAC's (properly unskewed) poll numbers this time around! I mean, it's not like him to do math as a Republican to make himself feel better.
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May 15, 2015 01:05
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Pinterest Mom posted:
I want somebody to pin this fucker to a wall with their questioning. That will never happen, but it's fun to imagine.
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May 15, 2015 01:22
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Pinterest Mom posted:
It's good and cool that he had a realistic chance of leading the world's largest economy! Haha!
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May 15, 2015 01:23
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Are you as excited as Marco is to be an American? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAG-c8cEk0w
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May 15, 2015 01:26
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"We won't need health care or even doctors once we all own Dr. iWatch"
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May 15, 2015 01:39
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Hillary wants justices who will overturn Citizens United
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Zoran posted:Are they saying that Republicans have the party ID advantage? If so, lol. Amongst Republicans picked by a Republican polling firm for a Republican think tank, yeah. B-b-but she once got fooled into voting for a WAR! Fulchrum fucked around with this message at 02:09 on May 15, 2015 |
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May 15, 2015 02:07
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Zwabu posted:Jeb Bush is coming across as a lazy candidate. As if his approach were that none of this matters until he officially announces and he can phone it in until then. Even retaining all the major neocon Iraq players from his brother's administration seems lazy. Yes, each party has a somewhat limited talent pool, but it shouldn't be impossible to avoid having Wolfowitz and the most recognizable names anywhere near his candidacy. 1700 people across six states. gently caress it, pack it in.
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May 15, 2015 02:08
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Possibly your only chance to vote for Herman Cain this election cycle! https://www.gop.com/presidential-straw-poll
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