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cthulhoo
Jun 18, 2012

The Moon Monster posted:

Making fun of pedophiles doesn't really matter either, tbh.

~slacktivism~

vvvv nothing like pedochat in the wildstar thread :3:

cthulhoo fucked around with this message at 12:25 on May 15, 2015

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Anoia
Dec 31, 2003

"Sooner or later, every curse is a prayer."

The Moon Monster posted:

Making fun of pedophiles doesn't really matter either, tbh.

yes, if you're not personally kicking down their doors you might as well be diddling those kids yourself.

Xavier434
Dec 4, 2002

Flesh Forge posted:

It is awesome that sexualized preteen children is becoming a mainstream thing and not something right-thinking people should criticize amirite.

Is that what you really think I meant?


LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:

The real answer is "I'm going to make fun of pedophiles all I want because no one but morons is going to defend it." He's trying to add statistics or some stupid real world meaning to a highly emotionally charged slam dunk of an argument. Numbers don't matter, making fun of pedophiles does.

Kinda yeah.

My involvement with this conversation began with my disbelief and confusion that eastern mmo developers were creating content to purposely appeal to that sort of disgusting activity and that there was likely a very different reason at least in their minds. Not only was I in disbelief because of the obvious ethical reasons but it did not make sense from a cold hearted financial reason either. Then someone mentioned that "cute" characters have been found to resonate with a large demographic of paying eastern players(women) and I connected that with my own observations here which is that I personally know some women who gravitate to those kinds of characters for similar reasons. That made sense to me.

Anyways, I know this is a really sensitive topic here on SA making it a challenge to suggest that eastern developers might have different reasons for creating this content without everyone crying foul against the person who might consider the possibility. I'll just drop it because it really isn't all that important me.

Xavier434 fucked around with this message at 13:44 on May 15, 2015

cathead
Jan 21, 2004

Flesh Forge posted:

Ahahaha Forbes straight up took some poo poo an anonymous dude wrote on Reddit and used it as a legitimate source for an article. NICE.

It's not actually Forbes, it's just a "contributor", which is basically blogs for random people to write whatever stupid bullshit they want. This sort of misunderstanding happens a lot.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747
Wasn't TERA's lead concept artist a notorious porn comic artist before he did tera?

poptart_fairy
Apr 8, 2009

by R. Guyovich
A lot of artists have backgrounds in porn.

Snatch Duster
Feb 20, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Byolante posted:

Wasn't TERA's lead concept artist a notorious porn comic artist before he did tera?

It pays the bills.

Deki
May 12, 2008

It's Hammer Time!

Xavier434 posted:

Is that what you really think I meant?


Kinda yeah.

My involvement with this conversation began with my disbelief and confusion that eastern mmo developers were creating content to purposely appeal to that sort of disgusting activity and that there was likely a very different reason at least in their minds. Not only was I in disbelief because of the obvious ethical reasons but it did not make sense from a cold hearted financial reason either. Then someone mentioned that "cute" characters have been found to resonate with a large demographic of paying eastern players(women) and I connected that with my own observations here which is that I personally know some women who gravitate to those kinds of characters for similar reasons. That made sense to me.

Anyways, I know this is a really sensitive topic here on SA making it a challenge to suggest that eastern developers might have different reasons for creating this content without everyone crying foul against the person who might consider the possibility. I'll just drop it because it really isn't all that important me.

I don't think I can agree with the logic that sexualised pre-teen character models are okay just because they might be targetted towards women.

Verranicus
Aug 18, 2009

by VideoGames
Let's go back to making fun of Wildstar. It's funnier than calling goons pedos, which happens in every MMO HMO thread already.

cthulhoo
Jun 18, 2012

indeed, lets talk about chua or w/e being a race for filthy furries :regd08:

Normal Adult Human
Feb 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Nobody gets to make fun of chuas because goons loving aggressively loved chuas for like 3 years.

Deki
May 12, 2008

It's Hammer Time!
I'm pretty sure goon sentiment was always against chua/space elves.

sword_man.gif
Apr 12, 2007

Fun Shoe

Deki posted:

I'm pretty sure goon sentiment was always against chua/space elves.

lmao no it wasn't, the threads when it was still wow killer time ate that chua poo poo up

for science, you see, is the pinnacle of comedy and shows how lighthearted the game is and how not serious it's taking itself :)

Cyron
Mar 10, 2014

by zen death robot
this thread was all over the chua like flys on poo poo. the whole race felt like gobots to the wow Goblins. both are the same thing but Goblins is a more of a mafia/used car salesman and the other is milking a meme.

LITERALLY MY FETISH
Nov 11, 2010


Raise Chris Coons' taxes so that we can have Medicare for All.

Verranicus posted:

Let's go back to making fun of Wildstar. It's funnier than calling goons pedos, which happens in every MMO HMO thread already.

We have to meet the quota or they'll move the thread to GBS. Sorry, but it's in the rules.

Stormgale
Feb 27, 2010

Verranicus posted:

Let's go back to making fun of Wildstar. It's funnier than calling goons pedos, which happens in every MMO HMO thread already.

Consider that the price of constant vigilance, you too should do your part Citizen.

i am tim!
Jan 5, 2005

God damn it, where are my ant keys?! I'm gonna miss my flight!

Cyron posted:

this thread was all over the chua like flys on poo poo. the whole race felt like gobots to the wow Goblins. both are the same thing but Goblins is a more of a mafia/used car salesman and the other is milking a meme.

Heck, I'll admit I was probably gonna play a Chua back when we still thought WildStar was being made by people that liked fun. Little did I know that they had exactly one shtick in store for the race, but by the time that became obvious the poo poo drat had burst and showed the whole world what a poo poo game WildStar is.

Itzena
Aug 2, 2006

Nothing will improve the way things currently are.
Slime TrainerS

Normal Adult Human posted:

Nobody gets to make fun of chuas because goons loving aggressively loved chuas for like 3 years.
That really confused me, because they're basically just Warcraft goblins in a fur suit so why not just, you know, play a an actual goblin in a better MMO?

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG

Xavier434 posted:

Is that what you really think I meant?

I just said the comment wasn't directed specifically at you (or anyone I mixed you up with) but at the idea itself. I think we can agree it is a terrible idea, whether or not you said it (although yeah you're kind of flirting with it).

e:

Xavier434 posted:

My involvement with this conversation began with my disbelief and confusion that eastern mmo developers were creating content to purposely appeal to that sort of disgusting activity and that there was likely a very different reason at least in their minds.

Also if you don't think Asian markets actively cater to pedophilia you must not have heard of poo poo like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkMGhKGp--Y&feature=player_detailpage#t=143

Flesh Forge fucked around with this message at 18:45 on May 15, 2015

Xavier434
Dec 4, 2002

Flesh Forge posted:

Also if you don't think Asian markets actively cater to pedophilia you must not have heard of poo poo like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkMGhKGp--Y&feature=player_detailpage#t=143

Judging by the meta data, something tells me that I should wait to get home before watching this.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
spoiler alert: it's a youtube vid about a genuine panty vending machine in Japan, there's no nudity or profanity but there's some anime ~~PANTSU~~ in the background

e: if you'd prefer, here's a text-only version from snopes:

http://www.snopes.com/risque/kinky/panties.asp

Not picking on you especially here, I'm just trying to get across that yes Asian markets really do see pedophiles as a market that should be served and profited from.

Xavier434
Dec 4, 2002

So either it is a very niche market in 2015 or it isn't and as a culture many of them just don't regard it as offensive or "wrong" in the ways that we do. Hence, why a lot of young women over there voluntarily choose to dress certain ways. Kinda interesting, but given the toxicity of this subject I think it is still best that we drop it. Ripping apart Wildstar is 10x more entertaining anyways.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
This just in, NCSoft merges Blade & Soul with Scarlet Blade to give us Scarlet Blade & Soul

Verranicus
Aug 18, 2009

by VideoGames

Flesh Forge posted:

This just in, NCSoft merges Blade & Soul with Scarlet Blade to give us Scarlet Blade & Soul

Thank goodness.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
I know right, the character models in Scarlet Blade are way less unappealing

e: well except for the 10 year old girl race (yes they have one too of course)

panda clue
May 23, 2014
I just want to enjoy wildstar schadenfreude without having to read through yet another SA pedo thread. is that really so much to ask?

Verranicus
Aug 18, 2009

by VideoGames

Flesh Forge posted:

I know right, the character models in Scarlet Blade are way less unappealing

e: well except for the 10 year old girl race (yes they have one too of course)

Also Scarlet Blade straight up had no playable male characters/classes until recently unless I'm remembering wrong.

Belzac
Mar 20, 2008

The third fracture I would do away with...I can't, sorry.

F R A C T U R E
First, I am 72 and on so many medications that no woman, man or child could turn me on so I have no monkey in this circus.

But if people are going to act like hysterical housewives over the B&S thing at least get some facts right.

Assuming what has been posted so far is correct and this girl was 140-150 and lived in the Stratus Empire:

1. This makes him at worst a hebephile not a pedophile. It is a not insignificant difference as this is a lesser mental aberration. If she was 150 she may, depending on development have passed out of hebephile range and this would be no aberration at all

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebephilia

2. In the Wind Empire, for example, we incorrectly use the word pedophile for a man having sex with a 170 year old girl. Psychologists know that study after study (brain imaging, etc)show that men of all ages find females most attractive around age 160. But we have decided to protect these girls just as we have decided to protect many things by law. So that man with the 170 year old is breaking the law, but is not mentally aberrant.

3. The age of consent in the Stratus Empire is, indeed 150. So this B&S person was either legal or one year below legal and either non-aberrant or barely a hebephile.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Fictional_Universes

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Well, it was a fun thread while it lasted. :(

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
source your quotes please and also :protogas:

Valatar
Sep 26, 2011

A remarkable example of a pathetic species.
Lipstick Apathy
All of the pedo conversation accounts are Franbunny desperately trying to derail the conversation from Wildstar's impending F2P Steam release.

Don't let the communists win.

Anoia
Dec 31, 2003

"Sooner or later, every curse is a prayer."
dear god is there nothing happening in wildstar news right now?

Kasp0021
Jan 1, 2011
Please, not this again. Can't we go back to the Wildstar dumpster already.

Schubalts
Nov 26, 2007

People say bigger is better.

But for the first time in my life, I think I've gone too far.
The fire is getting too large to see the dumpster.

Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!
Well at least the Wildstar devs will have something to keep them warm when they're living on the street.

mp5
Jan 1, 2005

Stroke of luck!

So is anyone here actually playing this game? They put in a new 20-man raid recently. Is it pretty much like AQ20 and classic Zul'gurub?

Can you still find boxes on the shelves to try and gamble on that whole "buy a new cd key, get a tradeable item" thing?

Valatar
Sep 26, 2011

A remarkable example of a pathetic species.
Lipstick Apathy

Anoia posted:

dear god is there nothing happening in wildstar news right now?

There basically isn't. The developers seem to be in lockdown mode right now; there unsurprisingly have been no comments about the game being spotted in Steam's database, no comments about the inevitable F2P/P2P conversion, and even the "surprise" they promised their players during the downtime hasn't materialized, two days later.

Belzac
Mar 20, 2008

The third fracture I would do away with...I can't, sorry.

F R A C T U R E
The surprise is that the game is still running. Surprise!

Xavier434
Dec 4, 2002

I'm hoping for a new 40 man raid with a 40 step attunement that can be completed in a bare minimum of 40 days due to time gating mechanics.

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cthulhoo
Jun 18, 2012

you're kidding about a 40 man raid right?

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