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Zaphod42 posted:You're right, although companies trying to push shovelware by not letting people know how crappy it is so they only discover it a few hours after they already purchased is pretty shady. Well guess what, they're corporations, not your friends. They exist to make money. For one thing, demos take time and resources to make. You can't just cut and paste code from the full game and call it a day. Depending on the game, it really may not be worth the time and resources to pump out a demo when those could just be spent on making the actual game or other stuff. Try before you buy heavily reduces sales way more than it actually increases them. Not to mention, there's the risk of demos driving people away from the game, even if they would have liked the full product, since they tend to be specific sections of the game most of the time. Or in other cases, people not buying the full game because they're satisfied with just the demo for some reason. It sucks for us, but business-wise, there's very little benefit from making a demo in most cases.
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Did we just compare Splatoon to shovelware?
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May 15, 2015 18:37
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How many people didn't buy Halo on the PC because the demo was so extensive that they just played that instead of buying the game? Same with Battlefield 1942. Probably a lot.
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May 15, 2015 18:40
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I, for one, am glad they released a demo for Splatoon. I was on the fence about the game before, but now I am dying to get it on release.
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May 15, 2015 18:45
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oopsie rock posted:I, for one, am glad they released a demo for Splatoon. I was on the fence about the game before, but now I am dying to get it on release. This, pretty much. It had completely fallen off my radar until I saw the email from Nintendo about the global testfire and decided to take the plunge.
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May 15, 2015 19:26
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma0d0TRwYfg Whoever this is is real good at video games
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May 15, 2015 19:31
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Lemming posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma0d0TRwYfg I really appreciate that the sniper class in this game has the extra role of making super speed highways for your team
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May 15, 2015 19:35
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Nintendo shouldn't worry about their new IP. People already loving love Inklings and the game isn't even out yet.
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May 15, 2015 19:38
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Lemming posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma0d0TRwYfg That tracker thing is so cool
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Dr. Fetus posted:Well guess what, they're corporations, not your friends. They exist to make money.  loving duh dude. Don't talk down to me like that. I never once argued that game corporations should be non-profit, so don't strawman me. FFS.Reiley posted:Did we just compare Splatoon to shovelware? Nah the whole point was that Splatoon is the opposite of shovelware. It was contrasted to shovelware, not compared. Lemming posted:How many people didn't buy Halo on the PC because the demo was so extensive that they just played that instead of buying the game? Same with Battlefield 1942. Probably a lot. 1942's demo let you do too much, Splatoon's is way more limited. That said, how many of those who only played the demo would have pirated it otherwise? I think generally if you can afford to buy it you wouldn't just put up with the demo. Most of the people on the fence are those who are broke and can't afford it, so the demo doesn't really remove from your customers in that case. In a few cases it could, and especially if your game is poo poo. But for good games I think the vast majority would pay, assuming they can and wouldn't be pirating it. The argument that making the demo itself takes some money and resources does hold some truth, but its not thaaat much work, and usually you have to build several internal demos for playtesting or showing off to investors or whatever anyways. If you can't play your game until its released there's gonna be problems with it. But cutting things up or polishing them a little does take non-zero dev time. That guy makes the argument that games with demos make less money, but correlation and causation aren't the same thing, and you can't just point to a few examples and say you've proven something. What if all the great games didn't bother with a demo because they knew they'd sell anyways, while bad games put out demos to try to win people over? Then its no surprise the games with demos still don't do as well. The reality is more complicated than that, but that's the point. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 20:41 on May 15, 2015 |
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May 15, 2015 20:33
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Lemming posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma0d0TRwYfg Inky bombchus, that rules
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May 15, 2015 20:38
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Blackbelt Bobman posted:Inky bombchus, that rules Yeah the bombchus are one of the secondary weapons I've been looking forward to the most. Really hope there's a blaster + bombchu loadout somewhere. I wonder how many variants of loadouts there'll be, or if it'll just be one or two for each gun. Custom loadouts would be so nice but possibly OP.
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah the bombchus are one of the secondary weapons I've been looking forward to the most. After playing the demo I gotta agree with this. I'd imagine that custom loadouts would lead to roller+inkchu+shield with some reduced time to charge the shield thanks to the gear and just make an unstoppable tank.
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May 15, 2015 20:47
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Lemming posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma0d0TRwYfg Glad to know there are already unstoppable players out there.
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May 15, 2015 21:12
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May 15, 2015 21:20
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah the bombchus are one of the secondary weapons I've been looking forward to the most. This game has custom loadouts. The item sets were just to make the demo smoother.
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May 15, 2015 21:21
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Yoya posted:This game has custom loadouts. The item sets were just to make the demo smoother. Whats your evidence for this? I've never seen them in any video or statement from Nintendo. Would be cool if true, but it definitely was not just for the demo. The final version has item sets too. It might also have customs, but I doubt it.
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May 15, 2015 21:33
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Lemming posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma0d0TRwYfg Now I'm curious to see what high level Splatoon play would look like, because that movement was insane. The game definitely looks fun to watch. Araxxor fucked around with this message at 21:55 on May 15, 2015 |
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May 15, 2015 21:39
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Re: Weapon loadouts Judging from this video, it seems like weapon loadouts are fixed, and are locked behind your level on top of having to be purchased.
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May 15, 2015 21:54
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Truxton posted:Re: Weapon loadouts Yeah like I said, I know for a fact, and they have shown many times, that there ARE loadouts in the final game, and you have to unlock and buy them. That is absolutely not in question. But once again, we don't know if there are custom loadouts on top of that, maybe at a very high level. But again, I kinda doubt it. Also even if the final game doesn't have them they could be patched in later, but again, I doubt it.
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Zaphod42 posted:Whats your evidence for this? I've never seen them in any video or statement from Nintendo. That's a basic feature of games like this. Loadout pre-PvE is probably a good comparison. Logistically speaking you have multiple primary, secondary and tertiary items which you level and they all have different properties, that sort of system does not lend itself to pre-packaged loadouts. It's a pretty safe educated bet that you can swap between Super Soaker/Water Balloon/Cannon Thing, Super Soaker/Water Balloon/Bombchu and Paint Roller/Water Balloon/Bombchu or however you set up your loadouts.
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Reiley posted:That's a basic feature of games like this.  Pretty sure you're wrong bub. Reiley posted:that sort of system does not lend itself to pre-packaged loadouts. Have you like, looked up any information on this game at all? You're completely talking out of your rear end right now. The game 100% has loadouts. This isn't for debate. The only question is if it has customs too, which it probably doesn't.  Nintendo has spoken at length about loadouts in the videos. They have never once mentioned customs.
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Boss Battle footage from single player: http://www.polygon.com/2015/5/12/8595659/splatoon-boss-fight-1080p60-mario-galaxy-footage Looks very Mario Galaxy or Mario 64  The way you have to paint his sides to climb up is pretty brilliant.
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All u need to know about splattoon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAbVQqnVKXE
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May 15, 2015 22:35
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Anime Curator posted:All u need to know about splattoon @ 80 seconds, no custom sets
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Cialis Railman posted:This, pretty much. It had completely fallen off my radar until I saw the email from Nintendo about the global testfire and decided to take the plunge. I originally thought that this was a cute game that I might pick up on a sale to scratch that itch that TF2 used to scratch, but now after 2 hours of playing the server test I'm balls-loving-deep in this, I need to play it.
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I am a kid now I am a squid now I am a kid and a squid and a kid and a squid and a kid now
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Lemming posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ma0d0TRwYfg Splatoon might be the first esport worth supporting.
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As much as I liked the gameplay during the public demo, I really don't dig the music and general sound direction. Anyone who gets into it will probably just listen to music while they play. It's not a game worth listing to too much and it's not like listening through headphones will help you hear anything useful.
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Heran Bago posted:As much as I liked the gameplay during the public demo, I really don't dig the music and general sound direction. Anyone who gets into it will probably just listen to music while they play. It's not a game worth listing to too much and it's not like listening through headphones will help you hear anything useful. What's it like to be so wrong.
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May 16, 2015 00:37
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Anime Curator posted:All u need to know about splattoon Clothes aren't gender locked.
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I have preloaded the game and will defend the honor of cats therein. I'm a little sad the game's actual icon does not have the squid wearing sunglasses.
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:Clothes aren't gender locked. He also said he can't try the amiibos yet. Heran Bago posted:As much as I liked the gameplay during the public demo, I really don't dig the music and general sound direction. Anyone who gets into it will probably just listen to music while they play. It's not a game worth listing to too much and it's not like listening through headphones will help you hear anything useful. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dv_t956EVgU Dude.
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Anime Curator posted:All u need to know about splattoon This rear end in a top hat thinks the commericals are bad, what the gently caress.
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mr.capps posted:This rear end in a top hat thinks the commericals are bad, what the gently caress. The one on youtube is currently sitting at 2494 dislikes to 2380 likes, so he's not alone.
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Cialis Railman posted:The one on youtube is currently sitting at 2494 dislikes to 2380 likes, so he's not alone. What a bad commercial. If you'll excuse me, I'm going to go write some reviews of the latest Dora the Explorer episode. It's really cringey.
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Cialis Railman posted:The one on youtube is currently sitting at 2494 dislikes to 2380 likes, so he's not alone. what the gently caress
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mr.capps posted:what the gently caress I wouldn't be surprised if people are upset that they're not treating this game with the gravitas it deserves, people take video games way too goddamn seriously. For me, the song's been stuck in my head for two days now.
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mr.capps posted:what the gently caress People just don't understand that you can be both a kid, and a squid.
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Silentman0 posted:He also said he can't try the amiibos yet. This sounds somewhere between The Fantastic Plastic Machine, Towa Tei, and Cornelius. I like it
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