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davebo posted:Yes, bad news for residents of Ehra-Lessien since I imagine that's the only place that dragon could actually fly. The Nardo ring and that one in Texas are round so I can't think of any other place it could actually go that fast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZX6Y8O3tI0 I'd imagine that VAG has the money to rent a suitable place if a dedicated road/track doesn't exist. On a random note, they stopped using twin turbo Vipers for standing mile attempts because the torque from its V10 was destroying even the stoutest aftermarket transmissions. Tekne fucked around with this message at 21:42 on May 15, 2015 |
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Wheeee posted:New Camaro got leaked. I'll wait to officially make my judgement until better stuff gets released, but it looks like a total  facelift instead of an all new car. Call it evolutionary all you want, from what's been released it looks like it might be hard to tell it apart from the current facelifted model. Who knows, it might fix a few of my visual complaints with the current car by being just slightly rounder.
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May 15, 2015 21:47
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Tekne posted:They were able to hit 278mph with the M2K Motorsports Ford GT in Texas. Difference being aftermarket speed demons can crank the power waaaay up to be able to hit those speeds in a much shorter distance, cars have been in the 230-250 range at Texas for years. With Top Fuel cars being the absolute extreme of this. The Veyron hits "just over 200", for comparison. The real trick with that and the upcoming Bugatti is reaching those speed with a car that will survive to the end of the warranty period, and can do other things besides accelerate in a straight line. That means a slippery body and the minimum power needed to reach the speed at all, so they usually take a much longer run to hit max speed. When Top Gear did the Veyron top speed run, they had a 120 MPH head start, and still needed the better portion of a 5 and a half mile straight to hit 250; the times I can find say it takes 55 seconds to go 0-250, compared with about 20 for the GT above to hit almost 280. Point being that far fewer places where a car like that can hit those speeds even exist, let alone able to be rented.
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May 15, 2015 22:50
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Enourmo posted:Difference being aftermarket speed demons can crank the power waaaay up to be able to hit those speeds in a much shorter distance, cars have been in the 230-250 range at Texas for years. With Top Fuel cars being the absolute extreme of this. Apparently the design for the Veyron was drawn first and then the engineers were told "make that thing hit the target speed" which is just rear end backwards, honestly.
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May 15, 2015 22:54
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The way I heard it was they built an engine and then had to design a car for it to go into.
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May 15, 2015 22:57
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Mange Mite posted:Apparently the design for the Veyron was drawn first and then the engineers were told "make that thing hit the target speed" which is just rear end backwards, honestly. Really? The Veyron styling is atrocious. Maybe they just hacked the poo poo out of it.
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May 15, 2015 23:13
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Seat Safety Switch posted:Really? The Veyron styling is atrocious. Maybe they just hacked the poo poo out of it. No they released the original sketches and concepts, it's just an ugly design and apparently an aerodynamic nightmare.
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May 15, 2015 23:24
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Veyron's not my cup of tea but I get the approach, especially for bizarre halo car. The Veyron looks like nothing else on the road and has enough of a tie styling wise to the Bugatti legacy.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:Veyron's not my cup of tea but I get the approach, especially for bizarre halo car. The Veyron looks like nothing else on the road and has enough of a tie styling wise to the Bugatti legacy. I agree. It's a rounded wedgish thing that looks like an impossible future car and is powered by an equally impossible engine. It's ugly and perfect.
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May 16, 2015 01:51
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I think they look gorgeous. But that's probably because I know what they are and what that means. If they weren't a masterpiece of engineering, I'd probably think they were hideous. At least they don't look like every other supercar.
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May 16, 2015 03:52
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fknlo posted:I'll wait to officially make my judgement until better stuff gets released, but it looks like a total The exterior facelift is pretty , but the important thing really is the change to the Alpha platform (and losing 200 pounds), the update to the engine lineup, and a (hopefully) completely redesigned interior.
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May 16, 2015 04:10
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The Veyron is the ground based version of the F-4
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May 16, 2015 04:30
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Bugatti is French, so it's like the Tarrasque, not some scrub dragon. The new Camaro looks like the car the current Camaro promised to be. The rear isn't particularly terrible, but it doesn't live up to the more refined front and sides.
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BoostCreep posted:It looks pretty much the same to me. Is this a brand new car? I mean I don't like the looks of the current Camaro either, so maybe it's just lost on me. I like the looks of it, but it reminds me of the Mustang refresh between the '09 and '10 model years -A refinement more than a complete makeover. Which isn't a terrible thing; I know a lot of people that love the styling of the current Camaro way more than the Mustangs or Challenger. If it's lighter, faster, and more fuel efficient (and a Transformer), GM won't have a problem moving them.
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KillHour posted:The way I heard it was they built an engine and then had to design a car for it to go into. As God intended.
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KillHour posted:Jesus loving Christ. Bugatti is like the dragon that sleeps for a hundred years just to wake up and wipe out a village because people were starting to forget who's boss. I guess they decided Koenigsegg was starting to get uppity with the Regera and needed a reminder.
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May 16, 2015 20:16
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They did it. They made the fukken windows smaller lol
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May 16, 2015 21:42
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Bumming Your Scene posted:They did it. They made the fukken windows smaller lol This is a war crime
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May 16, 2015 21:47
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It visually appears smaller which fixes one of my biggest issues with the previous car.
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May 16, 2015 21:51
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Some more pictures:    4 cylinder 2.0 liter turbo 272HP 6 cylinder 3.6 liter 330HP 8 cylinder 6.2 liter 440HP Not gonna lie, my initial impression is that it's a huge improvement over the current one.
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May 16, 2015 21:55
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Those windows are loving hilariously small, holy poo poo what were they thinking. Literally everyone's biggest complaint about the last gen was the small windows, so they decided to amplify that? loving GM...
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May 16, 2015 22:08
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With the camaro losing weight and the mustang gaining, the camaro could be 100-150lbs lighter than the mustang, and more powerful. Ford's response should be interesting.
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May 16, 2015 22:10
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It looks better than the last ones, but gently caress those windows wow. All you are going to see is the middle of the driver's ear on up.
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May 16, 2015 22:12
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At this point I imagine they were sized exactly to fit a typical drive-through window order, and no larger.
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May 16, 2015 22:15
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Powershift posted:With the camaro losing weight and the mustang gaining, the camaro could be 100-150lbs lighter than the mustang, and more powerful. They're going to make a commercial bemoaning the weakness of the aluminum Camaro and the touting the strength of their steel Mustang. Just like submarines MrChips fucked around with this message at 22:31 on May 16, 2015 |
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May 16, 2015 22:27
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May 16, 2015 22:30
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GM, snatching defeat from the hands of victory. nice ATS platform, good v8 engines, and they gently caress it up making it a bunker to drive again. How loving hard can it be to just make the proportions different?
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coolskillrex remix posted:GM, snatching defeat from the hands of victory. nice ATS platform, good v8 engines, and they gently caress it up making it a bunker to drive again. How loving hard can it be to just make the proportions different? The previous generation got the same complaints and it still outsold the Mustang, so...
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May 16, 2015 22:48
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another hideous GM vehicle you say 
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fknlo posted:The previous generation got the same complaints and it still outsold the Mustang, so... something something justin beiber record sales something something something I would guess most people here other than throatwarbler care more about having a good vehicle as an option than their favorite manufacturer selling more than the one they don't like.
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fknlo posted:Some more pictures:
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May 16, 2015 23:35
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The tiny windows are so dumb and ugly
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May 16, 2015 23:55
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Looking at pictures of the 2015 Mustang and it's not like it has some 90's Volvo greenhouse either.
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fknlo posted:Looking at pictures of the 2015 Mustang and it's not like it has some 90's Volvo greenhouse either. Sit in both. Also why does the Camaro have a toilet lid for a hood
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iwentdoodie posted:Sit in both. #1 Reason the NC looks lovely.
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Powershift posted:buggered with it a bit Yeah it could be saved by bringing the beltline down just a little bit. Forgive the hackjob, but:  I didn't really move it that much and I think that has a pretty significant change on how it looks. A bit more proportional, I think.
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MrChips posted:They're going to make a commercial bemoaning the weakness of the aluminum Camaro and the touting the strength of their steel Mustang. I assumed an aluminum mustang is a natural evolution of the f-150.
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May 17, 2015 01:16
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i for one will welcome our aluminum overlords
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May 17, 2015 01:33
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I should probably invest in aluminium or something since it's going to be the next wonder material for cars.
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New Camaro is the old Camaro after encountering a swarm of angry bees.
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