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Also Magneto wasn't dead, he was pretending to be Xorn, so Polaris' grief-stricken crazy naked Genosha antics were doubly meaningless.
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Dacap posted:Is Polaris his kid still? Or was she ever? I can't remember She was initially conceived as not being related to him in any way, then some guy was like YEAH BUT THEY HAVE THE SAME POWERS!!! and made them related. Then Peter David had a very boring cliched reveal about Polaris' past that made her throw knives around for a couple issues that re-retconned her as not being his kid, but actually being the kid of some people she blew up when her powers manifested ridiculously early. I'm surprised her reaction was to lose it instead of just going "Wow, my past sure is hackneyed."
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May 17, 2015 06:40
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Wasn't it Chuck Austen that made her Magneto's kid?
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May 17, 2015 06:41
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Dacap posted:Is Polaris his kid still? Or was she ever? I can't remember According to the latest issue of Magneto she is still his daughter.
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May 17, 2015 06:46
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In a series based around DNA granting powers I am a lot more comfortable with Polaris' 'same powers, must be related' than Quicksilver's 'same hair, must be related'.
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May 17, 2015 07:20
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Say Nothing posted:Also Magneto wasn't dead, he was pretending to be Xorn, so Polaris' grief-stricken crazy naked Genosha antics were doubly meaningless. Comic books!
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May 17, 2015 07:48
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Knormal posted:
They got Cable down pat as well.
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Lurdiak posted:She was initially conceived as not being related to him in any way, then some guy was like YEAH BUT THEY HAVE THE SAME POWERS!!! and made them related. Then Peter David had a very boring cliched reveal about Polaris' past that made her throw knives around for a couple issues that re-retconned her as not being his kid, but actually being the kid of some people she blew up when her powers manifested ridiculously early. I could have sworn that arc revealed he was her father, but that he didn't kill her parents, she did, because they were fighting and her dad found out about her mom cheating. I could be wrong, but I'm going to assume I'm not. Rhyno posted:Wasn't it Chuck Austen that made her Magneto's kid? I think initially it came up in Peter Milligan's X-men that ran concurrently with Austen's Uncanny. But got changed back and then changed back again. Shawn fucked around with this message at 08:28 on May 17, 2015 |
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Shawn posted:I could have sworn that arc revealed he was her father, but that he didn't kill her parents, she did, because they were fighting and her dad found out about her mom cheating. I could be wrong, but I'm going to assume I'm not. It's entirely possible. I mostly remember that it was surprisingly bad for X-Factor.
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May 17, 2015 08:29
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Lurdiak posted:She was initially conceived as not being related to him in any way, then some guy was like YEAH BUT THEY HAVE THE SAME POWERS!!! and made them related. Then Peter David had a very boring cliched reveal about Polaris' past that made her throw knives around for a couple issues that re-retconned her as not being his kid, but actually being the kid of some people she blew up when her powers manifested ridiculously early. You read that story entirely wrong. The X-Factor story revealed that she was the daughter of Magneto and Mrs. Dane, and that's what the Danes were fighting about when her powers manifested and crashed their plane. And then Magneto had Mastermind remove her memory of that so it wouldn't traumatize her. (Didn't work.)
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Which was Peter David's attempt at not only explaining decades of the mental instability of the character, the previous hack jobs by other writers trying to make her Magneto's daughter, and in turn redeeming her so she could be used in the next iteration of X-Factor. I'd say he did a pretty good job there. edit: goddamn it, I didn't even realize this isn't the X-Men thread. You guys completely ignoring the only important thread rule suck. Have some Ragdoll being awesome/creepy:    Secret Six #8 (pre-Nu52) Saoshyant fucked around with this message at 15:48 on May 17, 2015 |
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May 17, 2015 15:36
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I'm sorry, I just like bad puns.  http://nonadventures.com/2015/05/16/pants-like-no-one-is-watching/
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Senior Woodchuck posted:You read that story entirely wrong. The X-Factor story revealed that she was the daughter of Magneto and Mrs. Dane, and that's what the Danes were fighting about when her powers manifested and crashed their plane. And then Magneto had Mastermind remove her memory of that so it wouldn't traumatize her. (Didn't work.) Yeah, mea culpa.
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Uthor posted:I'm sorry, I just like bad puns. Okay, it's me. I'm the one who doesn't understand this pun. Grey jeans? Now that I type it, I think I get it. Jean Grey, master of death and rebirth. Phoenix. Durhoy.
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IUG posted:Okay, it's me. I'm the one who doesn't understand this pun. Grey jeans? S'ok - I'm the nerd who gets cross whenever someone makes a joke about Jean Grey dying and resurrecting constantly. She is the preferred host of an all-powerful entity called The Phoenix. It's not like you should be surprised she keeps coming back from the dead! That said - much like Hank Pym beating on women - I suspect that Jean Grey's death/resurrection cycle is prolly no more impressive than most superheroes - it's just the one that gets highlighted the most.
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It is because she had a fake-out death back when a fake-out death still kind-of meant something, then an actual death, then all that Madeline Pryor bullshit, followed by coming back. That was what gave her the reputation. The Madeline Pryor bullshit--which I'm still not 100% clear on--seems to have been what did the legwork because iirc there was a lot of back and forth on whether or not Pryor was really Jean or whatever. I wonder who actually has the record for most death-resurrections aside from characters who have that as their schtick like Mr. Immortal or Resurrection Man?
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mind the walrus posted:I wonder who actually has the record for most death-resurrections aside from characters who have that as their schtick like Mr. Immortal or Resurrection Man? I figure Apocalypse would be up there, but his resurrection thing has been often enough that it's also become his schtick. Same with Solomon Grundy, though Grundy's more blatant.
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mind the walrus posted:It is because she had a fake-out death back when a fake-out death still kind-of meant something, then an actual death, then all that Madeline Pryor bullshit, followed by coming back. That was what gave her the reputation. The Madeline Pryor bullshit--which I'm still not 100% clear on--seems to have been what did the legwork because iirc there was a lot of back and forth on whether or not Pryor was really Jean or whatever. She has actually died again at least once since then and is currently still dead except for her younger self who came forward in time.
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Travis343 posted:She has actually died again at least once since then and is currently still dead except for her younger self who came forward in time. No poo poo she did. She died over a decade ago. That wasn't what gave her the reputation, which is what I was talking about.
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May 17, 2015 20:00
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Jean just died again like a year ago.
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That second panel will never not be hysterical to me. If only because Mag's eyes have gone full-on Tommy Wiseau.
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May 17, 2015 21:42
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Schrodinger's Phoenix.
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Ensign_Ricky posted:That second panel will never not be hysterical to me. If only because Mag's eyes have gone full-on Tommy Wiseau. For some reason my mind goes to this: 
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May 18, 2015 05:30
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Here's Deadpool stopping a horn from being played by shoving his severed arm in it. (A+X #8) Admittedly may only be funny if you're familiar with the Doom Toot Horn 
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May 18, 2015 06:22
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Who isn't at this point?
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May 18, 2015 06:47
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How long have we had Doom Horn Toot as an emote 
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Malachite_Dragon posted:How long have we had Doom Horn Toot as an emote
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It was Gaz-L's avatar before he pissed off CineD.
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Rhyno posted:Jean just died again like a year ago. What? Zdarsky variant for Ultimate End #2 
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May 18, 2015 21:14
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That makes me hope they'll do another "What The-!?" special after Secret Wars. The NEW MARVEL NOW! one was pretty great.
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Brian Michael Gwendis, That's amazing.
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zoux posted:What? Battle of the Atom. The future version of time lost Jean Grey came back in time from that new timeline and died in front of her younger, time displaced self.
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Rhyno posted:Wasn't it Chuck Austen that made her Magneto's kid? No, Polaris being hinted at as Magneto's daughter predates even All-New, All-Different X-Men. It's just they waffled on it for decades until they finally said, "Yes, she is."
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Random Stranger posted:No, Polaris being hinted at as Magneto's daughter predates even All-New, All-Different X-Men. It's just they waffled on it for decades until they finally said, "Yes, she is." I know that! I just thought he was the one to go ahead and make it a thing!
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Ditch posted:And why is it "gaz"?! is from the Marvel Heroes (made by Gazillion) thread over in Games.
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Rhyno posted:I know that! I just thought he was the one to go ahead and make it a thing! As I understand it, the consensus was pretty clear that Polaris thought she was Magneto's daughter once and then realized she was wrong and then everyone accepted "no, she's not" for decades until Austen said "Yeah, sure she is."
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May 19, 2015 01:58
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She didn't "realize she was wrong," she TOOK A DNA TEST THAT CONCLUSIVELY PROVED THEY WERE COMPLETELY UNRELATED. gently caress Austen.
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Endless Mike posted:She didn't "realize she was wrong," she TOOK A DNA TEST THAT CONCLUSIVELY PROVED THEY WERE COMPLETELY UNRELATED. That DNA test was devised for humans. 
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SynthOrange posted:That DNA test was devised for humans. Secondary mutation: Cool And Famous Dad.
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Also DNA tests don't work that way, and also there was that high profile case of a woman who turned out to have chimaerism that had a court official literally supervise her birth and the DNA testing of her child and still failed to be recognised as the mother.
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