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boom boom boom posted:Fitz is so cool. I hated his stupid pointless rear end in the first season but by the end of season 2 he was a great chracter. Simmons did not become a good character but the at least gave her the gimmicks of being a really good deep cover spy for some reason. Simmons became a person I disliked, but a good character. I'm uncomfortable with her character development in a good way.
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I thought Simmons started becoming more interesting this season with her increasingly murderous intentions. Notice how eagerly she recommended just killing Cal when he hulked out. I'm hoping her latest experience just exacerbates that and that metaphobic trigger-happy Simmons is pro-reg next year.
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I think Simmons' most interesting development is an anti-powers mindset. In a field increasingly filled with gifted individuals, it'll be interesting to see how she adapt.
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May 18, 2015 04:54
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Its interesting how by driving FitzSimmons apart they were forced to become more individualistic, and they both became completely opposite people. She now ready to kill anything or anyone that doesn't fit into her worldview, and Fitz just wants everyone to get along and be friends.
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May 18, 2015 05:03
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Finally caught up on the season finale. That was something alright. I dare say those 2 hours were far more edge of my seat entertaining than AoU. And those last 5 seconds had me screaming at the TV. Very Hellraiser-ish creepy. So they kept calling that thing a "stone" which gave me an idea. What if it is a moonstone?  Don't know enough about the character to know if it would fit well.
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May 18, 2015 05:31
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Cocks Cable posted:Finally caught up on the season finale. That was something alright. I dare say those 2 hours were far more edge of my seat entertaining than AoU. Simmons is gonna evolve into a Clefable?
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Metropolis posted:Simmons is gonna evolve into a Clefable? If anything, the stone will spit her back out and she'll end up becoming Nurse Joy.
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Sammus posted:Its interesting how by driving FitzSimmons apart they were forced to become more individualistic, and they both became completely opposite people. She now ready to kill anything or anyone that doesn't fit into her worldview, and Fitz just wants everyone to get along and be friends. Not sure I agree. She came to accept Skye for what she is.
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enraged_camel posted:Not sure I agree. She came to accept Skye for what she is. Literally when did that happen?
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Gonz posted:If anything, the stone will spit her back out and she'll end up becoming Nurse Joy. Elizabeth Henstridge believes Simmons has been transported somewhere by the stone. Watch Season 3 start and she's out in the cosmic realm working as like Thanos' secretary or something. Hell, just start every season from now on with Simmons randomly working for an enemy faction.
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I think some of you are exaggerating Simmons' views, she was upset about Triplett dying, and that made her afraid of what the Kree technology did to people, and she reacted poorly. While at the same time Skye was feeling nervous about the changes that happened to her, and how the others would react. I can't remember if she outright said something, but I got the impression that she was okay with Skye and the idea of powered people during the finale.
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May 18, 2015 08:28
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Keep in mind that Simmons wanted to study the artifact but Mack won't allow it. So she's clearly not completely against alien tech. She's approaching it on a case-by-case scenario. Simmons is emulating Stark in a way; basically, she sees potential for good in all technology and only reacts negatively if she thinks it can harm others. Iirc, she wanted to try and synthesize the Kree blood for medical purposes. Didn't she (or Fitzsimmons?) also invent the icer guns, too? Her reaction to Skye after the transformation is colored by Trip's death and all the other poo poo that went down. She bounces back towards the middle as she learns more about Inhumans. vvv I don't think she's as rigid as that 3 DONG HORSE fucked around with this message at 08:46 on May 18, 2015 |
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May 18, 2015 08:44
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Nah Simmons was deffo on the genocidal end of the spectrum. Racism against Kree is still racism and Simmons was the most virulent anti-Kree, anti-Inhuman voice of the main cast.
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May 18, 2015 08:44
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She was worse than most of the cast but way better than ReelSHIELD.
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yeah that's why I said Main Cast.
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DoctorWhat posted:yeah that's why I said Main Cast. I wouldn't be surprised if May's in a roughly similar place as Jemma. She fell in line with ReelSheeld and their dogma pretty quickly. That was mostly about feeling betrayed by Coulson, but she wouldn't have joined up with Gonzales' faction so readily if she was against his anti-powered policy.
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Metropolis posted:Simmons is gonna evolve into a Clefable?
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Keep in mind, Jemma also saw Urchin-Raina kill a whole bunch of SHIELD agents and that's with one of the crappiest (physical) power sets (that they knew of at the time). She probably just keeps the fear alive by imagining what a horror Ward would be if he were powered. Oh no I hope he doesn't take fish oil supplements!
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The Red Queen posted:Keep in mind, Jemma also saw Urchin-Raina kill a whole bunch of SHIELD agents and that's with one of the crappiest (physical) power sets (that they knew of at the time). I know they can't use the character because he was a Mutant, but there was a guy in the comic District X whose Mutant power was emitting an unpleasant odor when angry or frightened. They should give that power to Ward.
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The Red Queen posted:She probably just keeps the fear alive by imagining what a horror Ward would be if he were powered. 
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DoctorWhat posted:Literally when did that happen? IIRC, it's when they're all in that room, having a big argument about it, and Skye comes in, finding out how Jemma feels. Later, Skye confronts her about it, and Jemma says, and I'm paraphrasing here, "Not you. You don't count. You're a friend.".
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Kheldarn posted:IIRC, it's when they're all in that room, having a big argument about it, and Skye comes in, finding out how Jemma feels. Later, Skye confronts her about it, and Jemma says, and I'm paraphrasing here, "Not you. You don't count. You're a friend.". I'm not racist, I have Inhuman friends!
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Kheldarn posted:IIRC, it's when they're all in that room, having a big argument about it, and Skye comes in, finding out how Jemma feels. Later, Skye confronts her about it, and Jemma says, and I'm paraphrasing here, "Not you. You don't count. You're a friend.". As far as I'm concerned Jemma still feels (or felt, prior to being dragged screaming into a hellish Kree nightmare) that she could "fix" her. She still has a deep distrust-bordering-on-hate of powered people, but overcame her cognitive dissonance with Skye by writing her off as "still good, pending fix."
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May 18, 2015 14:13
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Jemma is coming back as a maniacal Inhuman hunter... season 3 badguy.
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Jemma was also fairly close with ice-boy's evolution and his subsequent descent into crazytown.
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Season 3 opens with Chris Pratt as Star-Lord going into some alien shop...and it's Simmons behind the counter!
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ashpanash posted:Season 3 opens with Chris Pratt as Star-Lord going into some alien shop...and it's Simmons behind the counter! I want this so bad.
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Simmons turning out to be fine and having adapted to wherever the stone sent her really would be the best.
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ashpanash posted:Season 3 opens with
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Slashrat posted:Simmons turning out to be fine and having adapted to wherever the stone sent her really would be the best. The Getting Coffee and going to work chipperly cold open of Season 2 only it's a Kree warship headed for earth.
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My favorite theory that I have read is that Simmons returns with a dog and a little while later Starlord shows up looking for Knowhere's head of security.
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ashpanash posted:Season 3 opens with Chris Pratt as Star-Lord going into some alien shop...and it's Simmons behind the counter! Frozen in carbonite and that's why Star-Lord just has to have her.
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Also Simmons almost died/killed everyone when she was infected with an alien virus. She really doesn't have a good history with supernatural stuff. Still, a cold opening of her eating a space burrito and drinking a space latte would be hilarious.
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PunkBoy posted:Also Simmons almost died/killed everyone when she was infected with an alien virus. She really doesn't have a good history with supernatural stuff. Still, a cold opening of her eating a space burrito and drinking a space latte would be hilarious. Ward cockblocking Fitz with the save was awesome
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http://io9.com/disney-may-be-thinking-about-marvel-and-star-wars-tv-ch-1705215100 There may eventually be a Marvel "channel" - though we'd probably consider it a streaming service in today's parlance. Or, I guess, Disney could just gradually turn ABC into a Star Wars/Marvel channel, which I'm kind of surprised they're not doing.
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Using Marvel's full TV/Movie catalog, I think there's a chance it could actually support a channel, Star Wars not as much. It would probably just turn into the Incredible Hulk and X-men Animated series channel though.
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Teek posted:Using Marvel's full TV/Movie catalog, I think there's a chance it could actually support a channel, Star Wars not as much. Their best bet would be to just double down with Netflix and launch a Netflix-powered, Disney-owned sub service.
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Just caught up with this and my only reaction is pretty much incoherent screaming noises. Simmons noooooo
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Actually, since this is a Whedon show, I predict that Simmons indeed dies horribly. Fitz goes mad with grief and tries to destroy the world. He is stopped by Mack giving him a hug. Best story ever.
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