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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Are there any hidden gems out there with a similar mood to the Wolf games? Someone recommended Ubersoldier II some time ago and it's pretty good, if janky as poo poo. I'm probably one of the 1 or 2 people in the cosmos who legitimately enjoys the first Mortyr game, although it's pretty much impossible to get it to run on modern computers. I'm just looking for that similar pulp WWII "Those wacky Nazis are up to no good again!" madness. Radically different genre, but Warfront: Turning Point is a decent enough C&C clone with Nazi exoskeletons and Soviet freeze-ray tanks. No clue if it's on Steam or anything.
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Singularity is cool as hell and I'd definitely recommend it. You can literally send people so far into the future they turn into dust.
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May 15, 2015 20:59
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Oh yeah I adore Singularity. It's more Wolfenstein than Wolf 09, in my opinion. Turning Point is by the same dudes who did Legendary, which has a really kickass soundtrack and...that's it, really. I mean, listen to THIS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvVrku4ZzFQ 
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May 15, 2015 21:08
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Mordja posted:Radically different genre, but Warfront: Turning Point is a decent enough C&C clone with Nazi exoskeletons and Soviet freeze-ray tanks. No clue if it's on Steam or anything.
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May 15, 2015 21:35
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Are there any hidden gems out there with a similar mood to the Wolf games? Someone recommended Ubersoldier II some time ago and it's pretty good, if janky as poo poo. I'm probably one of the 1 or 2 people in the cosmos who legitimately enjoys the first Mortyr game, although it's pretty much impossible to get it to run on modern computers. I'm just looking for that similar pulp WWII "Those wacky Nazis are up to no good again!" madness. There is the Indiana Jones Emperor's tomb game. Not sure how it runs on modern PCs but it was a decent game. Uncharted 1 doesn't really have Nazis in it, but it has that supernatural mixed with regular enemies thing going on that I felt was very similar to Wolfenstein.
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Oh yeah I adore Singularity. It's more Wolfenstein than Wolf 09, in my opinion. A shame their music is attached to such aggressively mediocre games. I just couldn't bring myself to care enough to finish either turning point or legendary. :meh: Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Are there any hidden gems out there with a similar mood to the Wolf games? Someone recommended Ubersoldier II some time ago and it's pretty good, if janky as poo poo. I'm probably one of the 1 or 2 people in the cosmos who legitimately enjoys the first Mortyr game, although it's pretty much impossible to get it to run on modern computers. I'm just looking for that similar pulp WWII "Those wacky Nazis are up to no good again!" madness. Someone actually enjoyed ubersoldier II enough to recommend it?  It wasn't the worst game I've ever played but I wouldn't encourage anyone to try it out if they were itching for some nazi murder. This little beauty however... 
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May 15, 2015 22:10
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Übersoldier is great fun, and the sequel is even more fun.
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May 15, 2015 22:49
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I tried Ubersolder on someone in here's suggestion and it was godawful in every way.
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May 15, 2015 23:02
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I tried Ubersoldier 2 based on Xenomrph's suggestion too. It started with me in the back of a truck that would not stay still at any point while I tried to shoot at enemies that I couldn't get a bead on because everything was jumping around so much. Then I died and reloaded and I think when you do that it sets the difficulty up higher, because I was playing on normal and after I died it became exceptionally difficult to make it half as far as I did when I started from a new game. Also, when I finally got out of there, I discovered that doors that you can open and doors that are just decoration look exactly the same. I found this out when I went up a ladder with a door up top, got warned about having to defend against a swarm of Nazis, and then discovering the door wasn't openable and getting gunned down like Butch and Sundance.
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May 16, 2015 00:51
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Xenomrph posted:I own a physical copy of that game and for the life of me I cannot get it to work on my PC. I'd love it if it got picked up on Steam or whatever. Yeah, there's some sort of really weird bug with Windows 7 (?) where it won't recognize the game CD in the drive even if the actual disc is spinning in the drive. Only way around would be a crack.
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May 16, 2015 02:11
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TOB is way harder than the main game so far. I only have it set on the middle difficulty.
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May 16, 2015 05:56
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James Woods Fan posted:TOB is way harder than the main game so far. I only have it set on the middle difficulty. I noticed that, too. I played both games on the middle difficulty the first time through and TOB is much harder.
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May 16, 2015 09:09
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James Woods Fan posted:TOB is way harder than the main game so far. I only have it set on the middle difficulty. I finished TNO on uber just before this came out, and I had to play it on Death Incarnate.
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May 16, 2015 09:13
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Another old school callback in The Old Blood I loved: Finding keys! Of course the keys were in plain sight, usually in the same exact room/area as the locked door, but it was neat. It added to that action adventure feel Machinegames seems to be going for instead of an outright FPS.
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May 16, 2015 12:02
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James Woods Fan posted:TOB is way harder than the main game so far. I only have it set on the middle difficulty.  , I had an easy time in TNO on the middle one, and even going up to the second-hardest wasn't too rough outside of Deathshead himself, but TOB is challenging on the middle one, I had to turn down FROM the second-hardest.
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Well, I've played it on second hardest from the beginning, and haven't turned the difficulty down once. Was tempted a few times, though... but when it comes to FPSes, I like hard. I'm at the big boss fight now... don't really want to finish it because then the game will be over.  Bolow posted:Also I'm glad I have the entirety of the first episode of Wolf3d ingrained into my memory that I'm pretty sure I can pass it off to my children because Hans Grosse would be literally impossible unless you knew where the secret room is to actually have something besides pistol and assault rifle Broose posted:Hans was a chump for some reason. He went down with like two mags of the rifle. I guess for those who don't know that secret. Yeah, the latter was my experience as well. I didn't play the original Wolf 3D very much, so I didn't know to look for a secret room. I just snuck up to him, gave him the entire clip of the assault rifle, and then an entire clip from the pistol, and he fell over dead. Granted, I didn't miss once, but still, was pretty easy.
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May 16, 2015 14:24
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There's always new game+ where you get to gently caress up Nazis in style right from the getgo.
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Squashy Nipples posted:Yeah, the latter was my experience as well. I didn't play the original Wolf 3D very much, so I didn't know to look for a secret room. I just snuck up to him, gave him the entire clip of the assault rifle, and then an entire clip from the pistol, and he fell over dead. Granted, I didn't miss once, but still, was pretty easy. I knew about the secret room and grabbed the huge gun. Even though I was playing on Uber he fell in a second. I was rather sad.
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May 17, 2015 05:48
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Just finished Old Blood. Pretty drat fun, well worth it. Give me more nazis in space with magic though.
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May 17, 2015 06:13
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Playing through TOB a second time on a higher difficulty. The very beginning of the prison isn't so bad now that I realize you only need to turn off the first super soldier in each room and just pick their gun and go ham on the power sources on the other ones. The whole section was a breeze.
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Dangerous Person posted:Playing through TOB a second time on a higher difficulty. The very beginning of the prison isn't so bad now that I realize you only need to turn off the first super soldier in each room and just pick their gun and go ham on the power sources on the other ones. The whole section was a breeze.
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May 17, 2015 08:09
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Man, that was a stasifying session of Nazi killing. Feels like BJ murdered more in TOB Nazis then the Normandy invasion. According to a document I found that lists the causalities for Normandy at 156,000 to 89 in Germany's favor he probably did.  And here's to all those we lost, Kesslar, Wesley and Pippa, there will never be enough dead Nazis to account for your deaths.
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May 17, 2015 15:58
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Nalin posted:I knew about the secret room and grabbed the huge gun. Even though I was playing on Uber he fell in a second. I was rather sad. Is he the one whose original gimmick was that he'd only die when you had <10 bullets left or something? I remember that being complete bullshit back in the day, and I vaguely remember it being a Wolfenstein.
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May 17, 2015 16:23
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moths posted:Is he the one whose original gimmick was that he'd only die when you had <10 bullets left or something? I remember that being complete bullshit back in the day, and I vaguely remember it being a Wolfenstein. No, I don't believe Wolf3D had any gimmicks like that. According a quick Google search, he would drop in 50-60 bullets on the 2nd hardest difficulty.
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Just finished TOB. I really like this incarnation of B.J.: tough talking and throwing one-liners around like a boss when around both friends and enemies, but inside he's pretty much completely broken, like you'd expect from someone who's known nothing but death for years on end. Good job, Machinegames!
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Klaus88 posted:Man, that was a stasifying session of Nazi killing. Feels like BJ murdered more in TOB Nazis then the Normandy invasion. According to a document I found that lists the causalities for Normandy at 156,000 to 89 in Germany's favor he probably did. Considering the Nazi propaganda machine also claims BJ was executed for his little bout of Hitler murderin', I'm not going to assume they're being honest with the numbers. They're Nazis. Never trust a Nazi.
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moths posted:Is he the one whose original gimmick was that he'd only die when you had <10 bullets left or something? I remember that being complete bullshit back in the day, and I vaguely remember it being a Wolfenstein. The only thing I can think where this was the case was Pyramid Head in Silent Hill 2.
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chiasaur11 posted:Considering the Nazi propaganda machine also claims BJ was executed for his little bout of Hitler murderin', I'm not going to assume they're being honest with the numbers. Oh that reminds me, something ominous that the game doesn't address: the way the zombie gas works is that anyone who breathes it in becomes a murder-happy zombie at the moment of death. BJ was breathing that poo poo in real deep for the last 3 levels of the game, so what happens when he inevitably dies of old age or whatever?  Speaking of the ending, i wasn't that satisfied with the ending, the more I think about it. Sure BJ killed the big monster, but that wasn't the source of the zombie gas or whatever. And it's not like he collapsed the catacombs and sealed them off forever, since Fergus rescues him from the ruins.
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Plot hooks! Also this sheds a interesting light on the ending of TNO. Zombie BJ coming back with NUCLEAR FIRE POWERS to keep killing Nazi's forever.
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Xenomrph posted:I must have missed that bit of propaganda, when did that happen? I'm more disappointed that BJ killed the big monster. Let the Nazis deal with the fallout from opening that particular ark I'm pretty sure the monster was what gave the gas it's... potency? Without the monster to generate the gas, it loses its effect? I want a squeal set in the United states personally. Lets have a proper Turning Point Fall of Liberty. Preferably including a section set in the radioactive ruins of New York city
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Klaus88 posted:Man, that was a stasifying session of Nazi killing. Feels like BJ murdered more in TOB Nazis then the Normandy invasion. According to a document I found that lists the causalities for Normandy at 156,000 to 89 in Germany's favor he probably did. As much as I hate to say it, I hope Machine Games gets bored with Wolf after the next one/one after that. Because then they can end the series with BJ killing ALL the Nazis. Forever.
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Klaus88 posted:I want a squeal set in the United states personally. Lets have a proper Turning Point Fall of Liberty. Preferably including a section set in the radioactive ruins of New York city
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Rookersh posted:As much as I hate to say it, I hope Machine Games gets bored with Wolf after the next one/one after that.
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Xenomrph posted:I must have missed that bit of propaganda, when did that happen? I didn't assume that the gas effect was permanent. The zombie nazis were only created when it was around the whole village area, where the big cracks in the earth were releasing the gas. I figure you don't breath in the gas and now you have the ability to reawaken as a zombie when you die in the future, it's just being exposed to the gas at the time. Also BJ never dies so he wouldn't have to worry anyway
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Al Cu Ad Solte posted:Are there any hidden gems out there with a similar mood to the Wolf games? Someone recommended Ubersoldier II some time ago and it's pretty good, if janky as poo poo. I'm probably one of the 1 or 2 people in the cosmos who legitimately enjoys the first Mortyr game, although it's pretty much impossible to get it to run on modern computers. I'm just looking for that similar pulp WWII "Those wacky Nazis are up to no good again!" madness.
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Xenomrph posted:I must have missed that bit of propaganda, when did that happen? Newspaper article in the game announces the opening of a Normandy memorial in 1946. Built by allied POWs from the failed invasion in Normandy.
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There's some Xbone deal happening right now that lets you get a digital Wolfenstein bundle with both games for $45, and the sales price is retroactively applied to the new game if you already own the old one or something? I dunno, I can't check for myself.
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Xenomrph posted:God yes. I hope a sequel visits other parts of the world. Wait until we meet the fearsome resistance leaders Malcolm X and Reverend Martin Luther King Jr. "I have a dream... of a world in which there are no Nazis![/spoilers] [spoiler] "The honorable Elijah Muhammad demands you kill all the Nazis I admit I mostly put forward the above examples because of all the hackles it would raise on forums like Stormfront and  but I still think it would be fitting for a US themed Wolfenstein game.
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One thing about the setting: if all this occult stuff is true with ancient monsters and zombies and such, why does it seem like only the Nazis use it? You'd expect the Allies to try using it to their advantage as well, especially when they are losing the war. Possible plot point for a TNO sequel: the Soviets ran a desperate secret project late in the war in an attempt to counter the Nazis by unconventional means. Armed with Da'at Yichud expertise, you go to the derelict facility where it was developed in order to complete the project and strike a blow against the enemy. Like, a teleportation gate that lets demons enter the world (Doom reference) or something that twists physics around, like the Zone from the Stalker novella and games. Or awakening a massive dormant sea monster that is capable of bringing down an entire Kriegsmarine flotilla by itself.
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