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Zoness posted:aren't -1/-1 counters a thing that accompany wither or infect or persist basically Bring back weirdly numbered counters You have a Frankenstein's Monster with a +2/+0 and a +0/+2 counter on it, and it blocks a Harvest Gwyllion. The counters aren't annihilated, so you can still proliferate. Dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed.
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Also ~feelbads~ wrt that set design rule for blocking modular out of scars block because modular was a sweet mechanic. I feel like they should have tried it but I mean really it's just more reason to hate infect. Infect killed modular 
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May 18, 2015 20:55
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I read 3/4 of the first page of that judge whine and gave up. gently caress that self entitled poo poo head. You got DQ'd for not reporting you had cheated on accident. Eat a dick. I once thought I had made a mistake to win a game at a GP and talked to a judge. Turns out the play I made was legal so I was fine (I used swan song on a creature that I couldn't remember if it was an enchantment creature or not and wanted to make sure).
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May 18, 2015 20:56
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Zoness posted:Infect killed modular
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May 18, 2015 20:58
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I don't necessary want scry or cycling specifically in every Standard, but having some way of reducing or managing variance, especially in limited, is nice. That's what morph did for Khans. I'm not sure megamorph has worked as well for DTK. I mean Innistrad had none of these types of mechanics and it's one of the most loved sets of all time.
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May 18, 2015 21:05
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I'm looking for a mobile app (Android) that combines Decked's ability to price cards with MTG Familiar's wishlist feature. Is there such a thing? I really like Decked for being able to build decks and price them, but I'd love a wishlist feature (with pricing) that lets me know what I still have left to buy and how much it'll cost me.
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May 18, 2015 21:10
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whydirt posted:I don't necessary want scry or cycling specifically in every Standard, but having some way of reducing or managing variance, especially in limited, is nice. That's what morph did for Khans. I'm not sure megamorph has worked as well for DTK. RoE and INN are good without card selection as limited formats because the cards you're playing with are for the most part good and versatile - look at level up and flashback for cards that are good both early and late. (But also RoE did have sea gate oracle i guess) Morph kind of falls into this category too.
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May 18, 2015 21:13
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Zoness posted:RoE and INN are good without card selection as limited formats because the cards you're playing with are for the most part good and versatile - look at level up and flashback for cards that are good both early and late. (But also RoE did have sea gate oracle i guess) Innistrad: the Jund of draft
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May 18, 2015 21:19
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Zoness posted:I mean sure but the legendary supertype can also be called this so I mean like how is this a problem. The legendary rule has a cost, along with every interaction that isn't spelled out on a card. Wizards has decided that it's worth that cost, while they've decided that +1/+1 and -1/-1 counters together are not worth that cost. In a vacuum both rules may be just as easy to explain, but in a game as complex as Magic they have to decide what's important enough to keep around and what's not.
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May 18, 2015 21:20
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ROE and INN (without DKA) are some of the best draft sets ever.
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May 18, 2015 21:50
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INN was awesome, but it wasn't because the packs were super deep. 22nd and 23rd cards in the average INN draft were a lot worse than most sets since. I actually think that's for the best. It's part of why the format was so skill intensive.
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May 18, 2015 22:03
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My opponent should have figured out something was up when he cast Liliana of the Veil, used the -2 to kill my Voice of Resurgence and then next turn I play Kitchen Finks, attack him with the token for two (ignoring the 1 loyalty LotV) and pass turn (Wilt-Leaf Liege). 
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May 18, 2015 22:28
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May 18, 2015 22:34
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whydirt posted:I don't necessary want scry or cycling specifically in every Standard, but having some way of reducing or managing variance, especially in limited, is nice. That's what morph did for Khans. I'm not sure megamorph has worked as well for DTK. yeah but innistrad had flashback which limited variation by giving you more spells to cast of you mill yourself.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Innistrad: the Jund of draft Yeah it was basically a bunch of really good value cards.format Innistrad was awesome for a number of reasons: it had 2 different combo-y decks that could compete with generic beatdown decks. Flashback is a good limited mechanic. 90% of 2 color decks were pretty solid, and splashing was heavily encouraged but not required. Fight was introduced and owned, and removal in general was just very well balanced. The tension of werewolves was a lot of fun to play with. The list goes on. E: And yeah there was still a bunch of trash cards. Bread Set Jettison fucked around with this message at 23:03 on May 18, 2015 |
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May 18, 2015 22:59
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Fight was introduced  I mean as a keyword sure but as a mechanic no way.
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Zoness posted:
Well yeah I wasn't saying that. Arena exists and stuff, but how often was this type of mechanic used in a meaningful way in a set? It was the first time I felt that green had a spell that could qualify as meaningful removal. I could be mistaken
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May 18, 2015 23:06
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Well yeah I wasn't saying that. Arena exists and stuff, but how often was this type of mechanic used in a meaningful way in a set? It was the first time I felt that green had a spell that could qualify as meaningful removal.  . / 
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May 18, 2015 23:14
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touche E: Point stands though! Fight as a keyword was a good addition to the game, and one of many reasons why innistrad is the darling of limited formats.
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May 18, 2015 23:15
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Bread Set Jettison posted:Well yeah I wasn't saying that. Arena exists and stuff, but how often was this type of mechanic used in a meaningful way in a set? It was the first time I felt that green had a spell that could qualify as meaningful removal.  also yeah to be fair most instances of fight were on rares but r/g beasts in constructed was p big on contested cliffs in block and/or standard
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Zoness posted:
I think I missed that standard season. I started playing around mirrodin 1 fwiw. Also I took a break from magic missed most of Time Spiral, Lorywn and Shards. Bread Set Jettison fucked around with this message at 23:23 on May 18, 2015 |
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I think landwalk is probably pretty high on the list old mechanics they might just stop doing. I don't think they'll announce it's dead or anything, they've just been quietly doing less and less of it. There's only four cards total in Standard right now with landwalk, and they're all Islandwalk. 3 of them are in M15, so if there's no landwalk in BFZ or Origins, the only landwalk card in Standard will be the Durdle Turtle. (And why does that thing even have landwalk?)
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Entropic posted:I think landwalk is probably pretty high on the list old mechanics they might just stop doing. I don't think they'll announce it's dead or anything, they've just been quietly doing less and less of it. Mary's article implied there is an announcement that will say something about landmark in a few weeks. It wouldn't surprise me if they have a it of a shakeup to announce for mechanics that will start in magic origins.
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May 18, 2015 23:47
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Entropic posted:There's only four cards total in Standard right now with landwalk, and they're all Islandwalk. 3 of them are in M15, so if there's no landwalk in BFZ or Origins, the only landwalk card in Standard will be the Durdle Turtle. (And why does that thing even have landwalk?) Savor the flavor
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May 18, 2015 23:48
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This is LP, right? ....right? I hate you, random people on the internet.
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jassi007 posted:Mary's article implied there is an announcement that will say something about landmark in a few weeks. It wouldn't surprise me if they have a it of a shakeup to announce for mechanics that will start in magic origins. I hope landmark is a new mechanic
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suicidesteve posted:This is LP, right? ....right? Played, maybe.
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kizudarake posted:Played, maybe. I wouldn't sell it as higher than HP but I could see calling it MP based on TCGPlayer's guide.
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Hosing basic land types is a kindof weird thing to have as an evergreen mechanic, considering they basically never print cards that do that anymore.
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May 19, 2015 00:11
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Zoness posted:I hope landmark is a new mechanic The land continues to burn
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Hosing basic land types is a kindof weird thing to have as an evergreen mechanic, considering they basically never print cards that do that anymore. Or cards that hose lands, for that matter. I look forward to BFZ having no cards that deal with lands
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suicidesteve posted:This is LP, right? ....right? That looks like my old scalding tarn before I sold it. Has the scuff marks and slight crease up top. I still got $160 for it but that was at Richmond when foils were going for nearly $200
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newtestleper posted:INN was awesome, but it wasn't because the packs were super deep. 22nd and 23rd cards in the average INN draft were a lot worse than most sets since. I think in both sets the average power level was significantly lower than constructed demands, and I think they had a lot of cards that supported different archetypes that were wildly more powerful in archetype and without, which made them a lot of fun. suicidesteve posted:This is LP, right? ....right? It looks like the shuffle creasing on the back might be more pronounced than those pictures indicate, I'd want to see it in person or with better, less dramatic lighting, but I call pretty much anything with shuffle damage like that MP at best.
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Sigma-X posted:It looks like the shuffle creasing on the back might be more pronounced than those pictures indicate, I'd want to see it in person or with better, less dramatic lighting, but I call pretty much anything with shuffle damage like that MP at best. The shuffling damage isn't too bad, just what you can see. But yeah that alone to me makes it MP. I'm actually not sure that isn't water damage on top. It has that texture cards get when they're watered. The dents, or whatever it is that you can kinda see on the back are covering the entire thing, front and back.
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suicidesteve posted:The shuffling damage isn't too bad, just what you can see. But yeah that alone to me makes it MP. I'm actually not sure that isn't water damage on top. It has that texture cards get when they're watered. The dents, or whatever it is that you can kinda see on the back are covering the entire thing, front and back. Who's the piece of poo poo that dumped that on you, so we can never deal with them?
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suicidesteve posted:The shuffling damage isn't too bad, just what you can see. But yeah that alone to me makes it MP. I'm actually not sure that isn't water damage on top. It has that texture cards get when they're watered. The dents, or whatever it is that you can kinda see on the back are covering the entire thing, front and back. It looks like it was double-sleeved then run over in an asphalt parking lot.
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Chill la Chill posted:That looks like my old scalding tarn before I sold it. Has the scuff marks and slight crease up top. I still got $160 for it but that was at Richmond when foils were going for nearly $200 It's from NC, so who knows? Maybe it is. redstormpopcorn posted:It looks like it was double-sleeved then run over in an asphalt parking lot. That's actually exactly what I was thinking. kizudarake posted:Who's the piece of poo poo that dumped that on you, so we can never deal with them? Man, I'm not sure if I should say without at least giving them a chance to respond. At the same time, that is pretty inexcusable to send that out. I'm sure they'll say "it was in LP condition when we sent it" (the envelope isn't dirty/run over/damaged at all) but I'd like to see what they say before I start boycotting them.
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say it was Pussy Snorkel so we can take down his Magic card empire
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suicidesteve posted:It's from NC, so who knows? Maybe it is. Was this a goon or a store?
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Anatharon posted:I'm not really big into Magic but I started thinking of playing it again, because a lot of people play it here and I'm starting to feel left out of conversations. Okay I double checked and it's called War of Attrition. Anyways. Some of my friends are going to Friday Night Magic which I figure I'll give a shot too. Living Weapons seem cool, is it viable to expand the amount of those I have in a deck or are they overpriced? What about Myr?
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