|
Barry Convex posted:Marvel has pretty much confirmed, more than once, that there's a new Dr. Strange book coming after Secret Wars. (Presumably, it was originally going to launch earlier, given that the character is on the Avengers NOW! preview art from last year and that every other book represented there has since materialized, AFAIK.) No Mightygodking, no sale. 
|
#
?
May 19, 2015 15:05
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 3, 2024 16:12 |
|
|
While we're on the subject, what are the good Strange minis/runs? I looked in MU and I'm not sure he's had an ongoing in decades.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2015 15:08
|
|
|
Strange and Carol had a weird moment in her 2000s solo series. They defeat the villain and they're in a power pose together and they have this "so are we gonna make out or what" thing. Doesn't go anywhere, but this is also the series were Carol sleeps with Wonderman. Wonderman ; Marvel ladies perpetual sex mistake. Strange is pretty amusing in New Avengers when Squirrel Girl and Wolverine are talking to each other about their history. He's the focus of the panels as he figures out what they're talking about.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2015 15:59
|
|
|
twistedmentat posted:Doesn't go anywhere, but this is also the series were Carol sleeps with Wonderman. That was due to Bendis.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2015 16:24
|
|
|
Is Wonderman even around right now? I skipped out on later Bendis Avengers so I didn't read those issues but I haven't seen him in anything in years.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2015 16:29
|
|
|
muscles like this? posted:Is Wonderman even around right now? I skipped out on later Bendis Avengers so I didn't read those issues but I haven't seen him in anything in years. Last time I saw him he was wholly contained within Rogue.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2015 16:31
|
|
|
He was in Uncanny Avengers and he currently lives in Rogue's mind.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2015 16:32
|
|
|
Aphrodite posted:He was in Uncanny Avengers and he currently lives in Rogue's mind. No, see Rogue was all pissed off and going crazy because he was living in her mind. Then in the newest issue, Rogue is all pissed off and going crazy because some random lackey of The High Evolutionary took him out of her mind. Wonderman status: unknown.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2015 17:14
|
|
|
He's showing up in some Battleworld stuff.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2015 17:22
|
|
|
PaybackJack posted:Wonderman status: unknown.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2015 17:22
|
|
|
Much like Schrodinger's Cat, Wonder Man is both alive and dead and you're better off assuming he's dead anyway, or evil. Sadly Greg Pak can't always be around for him. zoux posted:While we're on the subject, what are the good Strange minis/runs? I looked in MU and I'm not sure he's had an ongoing in decades. Well, The Oath and Triumph and Torment have already mentioned, but I like Doctor Strange #58-62: The Montesi Forumula. Hannibal King and Blade show up and they team up with Strange to fight Marvel Dracula. Marvel Premiere #3-14: Excellent Steve Englehart run where Strange fights Shuma-Gorath, who's basically an HP Lovecraft monster, and then meets God through some time travel. The God story put some pressure on Marvel due to its almost blasphemous nature, which caused them to pressure Englehart into printing a retraction. He responded by forging a letter by a Texas Southern Baptist preacher praising the story, which Marvel unwittingly printed and the call for a retraction was dropped. Strange Tales #110-#157: The Original Run by Lee and Ditko, and mostly just Ditko at the end. Features the first appearances of Eternity, the Living Tribunal, Domammu, and other stalwarts of cosmic marvel. Highlights are 130-146 which Dr Strange begins a massive search for Eternity. As a bonus, Jim Sterenko's Nick Fury is in this too. Dr Strange(vol 2)#1-2, 4-5: Dr Strange gets almost murdered by Silver Dagger, an ex-catholic cardinal with magic powers, and meets a Agamotto, who's a talking caterpillar. Some pretty excellent Ditko and Gene Colan art throughout all of them. But here's a rule of thumb, if it was written before 1994 and Strange doesn't have something like a superhero mask or an eyepatch, it's worth reading. Or if it's by Brian K Vaughan. I'm not going to comment on Strange in various Defenders titles since he's a very different animal in those. His solo stuff I think is far truer to his character. TNG fucked around with this message at 18:40 on May 19, 2015 |
|
#
?
May 19, 2015 18:25
|
|
|
Is Triumph & Torment not available digitally anywhere? I feel like maybe Comixology is just rebelling against me. Or am I going to have to track down a TPB someplace?
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2015 18:46
|
|
|
A Tin Of Beans posted:Is Triumph & Torment not available digitally anywhere? I feel like maybe Comixology is just rebelling against me. Or am I going to have to track down a TPB someplace? I'm not sure if it is digital but there was a printing of it a year or two back so it shouldn't be too hard to find.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2015 18:48
|
|
|
Senor Candle posted:I'm not sure if it is digital but there was a printing of it a year or two back so it shouldn't be too hard to find.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2015 18:50
|
|
|
A Tin Of Beans posted:Is Triumph & Torment not available digitally anywhere? I feel like maybe Comixology is just rebelling against me. Or am I going to have to track down a TPB someplace? It was a Marvel OGN, like God Loves, Man Kills and the Death of Captain Marvel. For some reason Marvel hasn't been as quick to digitize those as they have their back issues.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2015 18:56
|
|
|
Skwirl posted:It was a Marvel OGN, like God Loves, Man Kills and the Death of Captain Marvel. For some reason Marvel hasn't been as quick to digitize those as they have their back issues. Both of those are on comixology.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2015 19:01
|
|
|
bobkatt013 posted:Both of those are on comixology. Well then I don't know what the issue is
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2015 19:26
|
|
|
God Loves Man Kills is even on Unlimited, I'm pretty sure. I'll track down the trade then!
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2015 19:43
|
|
|
Wasn't there a Black Knight preview in Marvel NOW! that implied that he was basically a drug addict and the drug was his sword? Did anything ever come of that? VVV Ah, it was Original Sins. Okay. Guess I got my previews mixed up. VVV KaosMachina fucked around with this message at 00:10 on May 20, 2015 |
|
#
?
May 19, 2015 23:10
|
|
|
KaosMachina posted:Wasn't there a Black Knight preview in Marvel NOW! that implied that he was basically a drug addict and the drug was his sword? There was an issue of Original Sins where it talked about him going insane because his sword did that to people. But that probably falls under nobody cares, because that's pretty much what anything involving the Black Knight falls into.
|
|
#
?
May 19, 2015 23:56
|
|
|
Reading the first few volumes of essential Avengers it shows that the writers would create a character, and just keep pushing him, but it would never do anything. Black Knight felt like some fanfiction character because he'd swoop in and save Cap and the other actual Avengers. I'm grabbing Deadpools Secret Secret Wars because the preview makes me think its modern Deadpool interacting with Early 80s Marvel, which just sounds amazingly fun.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2015 00:13
|
|
|
Hahaha, that's one of the funny things about the Avengers. It seems like it's the proving grounds for various character's concepts to see if they could branch out anywhere. Remember when the Eternals were a thing? Or Triathlon and Silverclaw? Or the lady Captain Britain that Bendis pretty much threw in the trash his first issue? Oh yeah, and don't ever mention the word Mantis around Steve Englehart. TNG fucked around with this message at 07:06 on May 20, 2015 |
|
#
?
May 20, 2015 07:00
|
|
|
TNG posted:Hahaha, that's one of the funny things about the Avengers. It seems like it's the proving grounds for various character's concepts to see if they could branch out anywhere. Remember when the Eternals were a thing? Or Triathlon and Silverclaw? Or the lady Captain Britain that Bendis pretty much threw in the trash his first issue? I liked Mantis in the Abnett/Lanning Guardians of the Galaxy.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2015 07:10
|
|
|
You have to understand, back then Cap was just as "unproven" as any other random character that showed up to befriend the Avengers. They were trying to see who would work and who wouldn't as part of the team or their own ongoing, and that's how a ton of Avengers now considered mainstays got started. This weird idea of focusing on the "real" Avengers is a very modern one.
|
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2015 07:11
|
|
|
Skwirl posted:I liked Mantis in the Abnett/Lanning Guardians of the Galaxy. Indeed, probably because it didn't entirely revolve around the Celestial Madonna saga and Englehart's bizarre fixation with her. She followed him to whatever book he was writing next. I think he's an incredible writer and probably wrote some of the best versions of various characters, but the man needed to shut up about Mantis.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2015 07:17
|
|
|
Lurdiak posted:You have to understand, back then Cap was just as "unproven" as any other random character that showed up to befriend the Avengers. They were trying to see who would work and who wouldn't as part of the team or their own ongoing, and that's how a ton of Avengers now considered mainstays got started. I think Lee also wanted to use some of the Timely characters but didn't want the racist/anti communism baggage that went along with 50s Cap. Which is funny because he wrote a few 50's Cap stories. For as much praise as Lee gets, he would ignore continuity at any point if it suited his purpose.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2015 12:41
|
|
|
So many tie-ins, so impatient to find out which are worth buying.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2015 14:29
|
|
|
Aphrodite posted:So many tie-ins, so impatient to find out which are worth buying. Same here. There's way too much poo poo going on for me to go blind and buy a ton of poo poo. (especially I went crazy on the IDW sale)
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2015 14:37
|
|
|
notthegoatseguy posted:I think Lee also wanted to use some of the Timely characters but didn't want the racist/anti communism baggage that went along with 50s Cap. Which is funny because he wrote a few 50's Cap stories. Knowing Stan Lee he could have just forgot about Commie basher Cap.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2015 14:38
|
|
|
Aphrodite posted:So many tie-ins, so impatient to find out which are worth buying.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2015 14:55
|
|
|
Endless Mike posted:Once you cut out the writers you don't like, there's a lot fewer tie-ins. I don't recognize most of the names on the ones out today.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2015 14:58
|
|
|
I liked all the set-up of A-Force and Wilson had Miss America down pat...then she got chucked away to be in Gillen's Siege thing at the end
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2015 15:10
|
|
|
notthegoatseguy posted:I think Lee also wanted to use some of the Timely characters but didn't want the racist/anti communism baggage that went along with 50s Cap. Which is funny because he wrote a few 50's Cap stories. I'll give him praise for that too. Just write good comics.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2015 15:11
|
|
|
I got Planet Hulk, Battleworld and Ultimate End.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2015 15:16
|
|
|
Is Ultimate End poo poo? That's really the only one I think I care about.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2015 15:32
|
|
|
Happy Noodle Boy posted:Is Ultimate End poo poo? That's really the only one I think I care about. I'm not current on Ultimate universe so I dunno if the circumstances that led up to it are laid out in the leadup books or if it's in medias re as gently caress. But it's a lot of talking and set up. Of the three, Battleworld was the best. It's a two-story anthology comic ala A+X. zoux fucked around with this message at 16:00 on May 20, 2015 |
|
#
?
May 20, 2015 15:47
|
|
|
The most amazing thing about Mantis is how Steve Englehart was so attached to her he kept shoehorning her into books that weren't even at Marvel. He introduced her on his Avengers run in the 1970s and wrapped up his "celestial madonna" storyline shortly before leaving, but... Then wrote her into his Justice League of America series as "Willow" when he had beef with Gerry Conway who was Marvel EiC for like six weeks. Then he left comics to move to Europe or write novels or something, one of which apparently features Mantis in a small role. Then he worked her into one of his creator-owned books. Then he came back to work for Marvel, got to launch a SIlver Surfer ongoing, and within like four issues Mantis was his love interest. There was apparently editorial pressure to not have Mantis be so prominent in the book, so... Englehart just had her join the West Coast Avengers, which he was then writing. He quit Surfer not too long after Mantis was written out but then apparently editorial didn't want WCA to focus on her either. So he quit WCA and... Wrote her into his Fantastic Four run that was going on at the time, where once again he was told he should not have the book focus on Mantis. So he killed her off and quit the book. Then some other creators used Mantis (in a number of bad stories, including the Crossing) and this naturally really really pissed off Steve Englehart, to the point that I could've sworn that there was an interview where Kurt Busiek stated some of the retcons around Mantis in Avengers Forever were basically done specifically for the benefit of Englehart, in the hopes he would come back to Marvel. And eventually in 2001 he did! For Avengers: Celestial Quest, a comic book about Mantis (and some Avengers, but mostly Mantis) doing cosmic stuff. I used to feel bad about making fun of Englehart and his Mantis obsession, but then I started reading old letters/interviews from 1970s fanzines and he was 100% in the bomb-throwing "well you know comic books are 99% made by hacks and most of the people in my field are too stupid to understand what my vision is and that's why I'm going to go be a best-selling world-beating literary author and leave this comics bullshit in the dust, did you know I can't even show Avengers smoking reefer or having sex? It's so much freer in Europe, maybe everyone should move to Europe, but then I guess my old editors at Marvel are too dumb to learn another language! Again, I am better than comic books and will never work in them again after this one last thing! 1974 can't come fast enough!" Which you know fine, you're young and brash and you grow out of it. Then I found his official website, which isn't quite the same brand of unalloyed arrogance, but is definitely chock full of "all of my ideas are great, if things weren't great it was some dumbass editor who ruined it, everything should have been better had I not been interfered with" combined with him explicitly taking credit and demanding some sort of compensation/admission that when you get down to it, that without stripmining his ideas they never would have made the 1989 Batman, The Dark Knight, The Dark Knight Rises, the Captain America films, Guardians of the Galaxy, the Avengers, franchise, all of the DCAU, the 1990s Silver Surfer cartoon, and probably some other stuff. http://www.steveenglehart.com/Comics/Star-Lord.html
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2015 15:56
|
|
|
tenniseveryone posted:I liked all the set-up of A-Force and Wilson had Miss America down pat...then she got chucked away to be in Gillen's Siege thing at the end I'm sorry are you complaining about Gillen getting to write more America Chavez?
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2015 16:01
|
|
|
A-Force and Ultimate End for me. I want the Planet Hulk backup but not the main part.
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2015 16:31
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 3, 2024 16:12 |
|
|
TRIP REPORT: A-Force #1: I like the 'idyllic' setup of Arcadia but this is a real intro issue. It'll obviously pick up in a month or two but this one was a little light. The art's nice and strong, the colouring pops nicely, there's only one really stupid Dazzler pose. Battleworld #1: contains a cool Punisher story and a funny MODOK story. The art on both is great. I think this is the tie-in to pick up, if you're only picking up one; the mini-stories will hopefully be rad through the whole run. Ultimate End #1: was EXCEPTIONALLY CONFUSING. Kind of starts to make sense in the last two pages. But it's got Hipster Hulk and some fun 616 Spider-Man writing, and a whole lot of real unfortunate faces (my favourite thing!) 
|
|
#
?
May 20, 2015 16:39
|
|
