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I don't get what makes this so bad??? it doesn't sound any different than SecondLife's 32 character hex hash they use to track assets!
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Segmentation Fault posted:This is entirely unrelated but I really want to know the story behind that av. I pissed off an anonymous goon (it was definitely shalinor  ) in the game industry thread with this post:http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3415662&userid=80112&perpage=40&pagenumber=17#post441665409
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May 19, 2015 18:59
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It's  not :tenbux:, hth.
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May 19, 2015 19:01
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A Steampunk Gent posted:wow this guy's is using BITCOIN?!? lmao We're not using any coins. It was brought up early in development and was canned because using *coins as a currency is dumb.
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May 19, 2015 19:05
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Lemon King posted:It was brought up early in development laffo
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May 19, 2015 19:11
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Early Access Kickstarter Trip Report: Darkest Dungeon is rad as hell and while the starting environment in Grim Dawn is generic as gently caress it plays well, looks nice, and I really like the weapons, armor, and classes. Probably won't touch them too much until they're done but both are good games. e: Carmageddon Reincarnation is also coming along pretty nicely but i honestly wonder how well it'll be received. it's a better looking original Carmageddon for better or worse and there are lots of things about it that just feel really old and weird. also its load times even on an SSD make Bloodborne and Destiny look quick by comparison
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May 19, 2015 20:06
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Power Stone is really fun at first but I found it doesn't have much lasting power compared to, say, Smash, because the core mechanics start to feel really repetitive after a while. Starts feeling kind of mindless.
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May 19, 2015 20:58
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So everyone's being agressive towards this guy for using controversial currency in his game, but then everyone's cool with the bear simulator dude who just went radio silence and had to be prodded, no pun intended, to even bother responding to his backers when they were convinced he had bailed on them. Figures. I like your game, lemon dude. gently caress a bear simulator.
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May 19, 2015 21:11
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Mr Underhill posted:So everyone's being agressive towards this guy for using controversial currency in his game, but then everyone's cool with the bear simulator dude who just went radio silence and had to be prodded, no pun intended, to even bother responding to his backers when they were convinced he had bailed on them. Figures. As an aside, bear simulator has been putting out regular updates since the nudge came so it looks like he really was working and just didn't get that people wanted frequent updates instead of long silence and then one megaupdate. Which I guess is kinda silly but I don't understand your raging hateboner for this silly bear game.
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May 19, 2015 21:14
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Mr Underhill posted:So everyone's being agressive towards this guy for using controversial currency in his game, but then everyone's cool with the bear simulator dude who just went radio silence and had to be prodded, no pun intended, to even bother responding to his backers when they were convinced he had bailed on them. Figures. Thanks.  And there is so need to bring out the pitchforks, we got that covered. 
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May 19, 2015 21:17
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AnonSpore posted:I don't understand your raging hateboner for this silly bear game.
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May 19, 2015 21:18
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Honestly the biggest problem I see with lemon man's thing is that the scripting is going to need to be powerful and versatile (to be able to make things worth screwing with) and easy to use (to get enough people actually making things worth screwing with) and that is not an easy ask.
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May 19, 2015 21:21
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AnonSpore posted:As an aside, bear simulator has been putting out regular updates since the nudge came so it looks like he really was working and just didn't get that people wanted frequent updates instead of long silence and then one megaupdate. Which I guess is kinda silly but I don't understand your raging hateboner for this silly bear game. Well, I"m glad for the people who backed that he's back on track. No hate here, in fact I just don't get some of the over aggressive comments towards people just sharing their kickstarter project and not being any kind of pompous about it, but ok, we all vent on the internet sometimes. I said gently caress that game because last time I had checked it really seemed like the guy had just taken the money and ran, color me surprised. Let the record also show I love bears and i think they're totally gnarly. I wouldn't pay money to play as one but I can appreciate why some would. Now a lynx on the other hand...
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May 19, 2015 21:23
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Mr Underhill posted:gently caress a bear simulator. These German simulation games have been getting kinda weird lately.
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May 19, 2015 21:24
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Benly posted:Honestly the biggest problem I see with lemon man's thing is that the scripting is going to need to be powerful and versatile (to be able to make things worth screwing with) and easy to use (to get enough people actually making things worth screwing with) and that is not an easy ask. We're running each Planet with its own LLVM environment. Entities - item, creature, weapon, armor, hats, and etc - is its own program, much like Agent Smith from the Matrix; I don't like using this comparison but its highly accurate. Everything is coded in C, minus the engine (Client and Server) but you don't need to worry about that.
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May 19, 2015 21:28
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Benly posted:Honestly the biggest problem I see with lemon man's thing is that the scripting is going to need to be powerful and versatile (to be able to make things worth screwing with) and easy to use (to get enough people actually making things worth screwing with) and that is not an easy ask. edit: I mean just look at it - quote:Coming from the background of living and loving games, we set out to make what other sandbox games should have been. We are demolishing every boundary and making a game that transcends genre. Whether your taste is for collecting, combat, or creation, Voxelnauts will satisfy it. But we need your help. Cicero fucked around with this message at 21:33 on May 19, 2015 |
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May 19, 2015 21:31
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Lemon King posted:Thanks. Can I make pokemon in your game. Y/N/Will you hold my hand at the prom?
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May 19, 2015 22:20
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Infinitum posted:Can I make pokemon in your game. Why not. We also have a new video talking about VR and Art Direction. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqYSUfMY1I8 e: Love it! But it needs more bling and sparkles. Lemon King fucked around with this message at 22:56 on May 19, 2015 |
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May 19, 2015 22:43
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Lemon King posted:He sold off his Bitcoins to fund the part of the project. We're also using some Block Chain tech for asset tracking instead of currency. 
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May 19, 2015 22:48
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Mr Underhill posted:So everyone's being agressive towards this guy for using controversial currency in his game, but then everyone's cool with the bear simulator dude who just went radio silence and had to be prodded, no pun intended, to even bother responding to his backers when they were convinced he had bailed on them. Figures. i don't think that you understand the mountain of idiocy, greed, idiocy, objectivism, idiocy, dunning kruger and idiocy that is literally everything about bitcoins
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May 19, 2015 23:00
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I mean, I hope lemon man can overcome his crippling disability of being a bitcoiner and make a good game but it's reasonable to be wary.
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May 19, 2015 23:02
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RottenK posted:I mean, the projet doesn't looks too bad so I hope lemon man can overcome his crippling disability of being a bitcoiner and make a good game but it's reasonable to be wary. I've never gotten into Bitcoin or Bitcoin Mining, everything we're using it to track ingame assets created by us and players. Any *coin shenanigans you're wanting to happen wont, sorry dude no Cosby Coins here. Lemon King fucked around with this message at 23:07 on May 19, 2015 |
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May 19, 2015 23:04
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I wonder how many of the people ragging on this guy even know what a blockchain is. I mean, don't get me wrong, I don't know what a blockchain is either. I just know that while bitcoins are sketchy as all hell, that doesn't mean that literally every single algorithm used in their implementation is garbage. That's just reductio ad hitlerum.
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May 19, 2015 23:07
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pumpinglemma posted:I wonder how many of the people ragging on this guy even know what a blockchain is. It's just a way of making a unique ID for every item and transaction that item is involved in without reinventing the wheel. Anyone complaining about using that for doing non-monetary transactions basically has absolutely no idea what they're talking about and it's amusing to watch.
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May 19, 2015 23:11
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pumpinglemma posted:bitcoins are sketchy as all hell, literally every single algorithm used in their implementation is garbage  Lemon King posted:I've never gotten into Bitcoin or Bitcoin Mining, everything we're using it to track ingame assets created by us and players. Any *coin shenanigans you're wanting to happen wont, sorry dude no Cosby Coins here. please don't track your assets with a lovely crippled distributed ledger
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May 19, 2015 23:12
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Cicero posted:A sandbox MMO in a from-scratch engine that caters to multiple completely different playstyles, including allowing users to make their own stuff, even their own game rules (?), for 200k? This sounds hopelessly overoptimistic. my god, the pixel art in the pitch is beautiful, and i would look forward to it as a single player exploration or building game, but if you can't even pay salary then there's no loving way you'll be able to pony up for mmo-load server hosting when the time comes
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May 19, 2015 23:14
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Telex posted:It's just a way of making a unique ID for every item and transaction that item is involved in without reinventing the wheel. blockchain technology IS reinventing the wheel. there are already methods for tracking transactions and IDs that don't require every user to possess the entirety of every id and transaction ever made. gimme a break
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May 19, 2015 23:18
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I'm always hoping someone somewhere comes out with "minecraft but better and developed by people who know what they are doing" but all we have are a thousand barely finished clones with a bunch of deal-breaking design flaws. I guess that sums up minecraft when it first got big, a barely fleshed out indie mess but you'd think in the years since someone would have come up with a new twist or something with a bit more polish or better gameplay.
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May 19, 2015 23:23
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DolphinCop posted:that's including one million already provided by investors, but the pitch admits that there already isn't enough money to pay most of the team, which would be setting off alarm bells even if they weren't trying to host an mmo without publisher assistance https://www.reddit.com/r/IndieGaming/comments/36cc3t/voxelnauts_vr_mmo_kickstarter_launch/crd3gxa
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May 19, 2015 23:25
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DolphinCop posted:that's including one million already provided by investors, but the pitch admits that there already isn't enough money to pay most of the team, which would be setting off alarm bells even if they weren't trying to host an mmo without publisher assistance The pitch also (at least by my reading - maybe I missed it?) doesn't talk about the payment scheme of this MMO, which raises more than just an eyebrow.
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May 19, 2015 23:30
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Kyrosiris posted:The pitch also (at least by my reading - maybe I missed it?) doesn't talk about the payment scheme of this MMO, which raises more than just an eyebrow. Thanks, we're getting this sorted now. e: Current payment model plan is Buy to Play. Lemon King fucked around with this message at 23:39 on May 19, 2015 |
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May 19, 2015 23:31
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Telex posted:Anyone complaining about using that for doing non-monetary transactions basically has absolutely no idea what they're talking about and it's amusing to watch. I was fairly sure this was the case since Suspicious Dish is a professional idiot but thanks for clarifying it
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May 19, 2015 23:37
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Lemon King posted:We're running each Planet with its own LLVM environment. Entities - item, creature, weapon, armor, hats, and etc - is its own program, much like Agent Smith from the Matrix; I don't like using this comparison but its highly accurate. I honestly have no idea whether that addresses my issue of "if it's easy enough for me to use, it's probably going to be too oversimplified to make anything interesting with, and vice versa". I'm not talking about your back end, but if player-created content is supposed to be a big part of the pitch the methods the players use to create that content have an extremely difficult balance to strike.
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May 19, 2015 23:37
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RottenK posted:
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May 19, 2015 23:50
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RottenK posted:
Tell me more about how SHA-256 is garbage.  RottenK posted:please don't track your assets with a lovely crippled distributed ledger If the lovely distributed ledger is only seen by the backend servers, it's kind of a stupid-but-clever way of synchronizing them. A minor waste of coding effort, but not a big deal.
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May 20, 2015 00:15
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Dylan16807 posted:Tell me more about how SHA-256 is garbage. It has no particular benefits and the only reason most things use it these days is that Bitcoin happened to use it.
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May 20, 2015 00:18
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Nintendo Kid posted:It has no particular benefits and the only reason most things use it these days is that Bitcoin happened to use it. Sure, that's why browsers are obsoleting SHA-1 to get people to move to it. Edit: vvv I'm not going to waste more posts on this. SHA-256 is pretty much the default form of SHA-2 and what most certificates seem to be using. Other components are involved, that's obvious, but a secure hash is critical and is at least one thing bitcoin got right. Dylan16807 fucked around with this message at 01:10 on May 20, 2015 |
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May 20, 2015 00:28
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Dylan16807 posted:Sure, that's why browsers are obsoleting SHA-1 to get people to move to it. SHA-2 and SHA-256 are not synonymous. SHA-256 is one particular type of it. Also when it comes to server certificates the hashing used is only one component of many.
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May 20, 2015 00:48
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Lemon King posted:Well no, have some backstory to that.
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Trapezium Dave posted:Wait, Mark Kern (of Firefall bus fame) was involved with this?
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