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Gin_Rummy
Aug 4, 2007

Cacafuego posted:

I did this with a few companies at a job I don't have experience in. One accepted and flat out told me they're looking for people with at least a year in the field (clinical trial monitoring). I have clinical research experience, but no official trial monitoring.

Another recruiter from another company told me that someone else handles entry level candidates, but that they passed on my info. I connected with this new person, telling them I had applied. I have a phone interview tomorrow after passing all the email prescreening. So, it does work, you just have to find a motivated person.

What kind of people did you target with regards to job titles? HR Managers? HR Directors? Just talent acquisiton specialists?

EDIT: And I guess, for that matter, what's the best way to approach them in this situation? Just be up front about it from the get-go? "Hey, I applied for a posting you guys had open and I was wondering what I could do to make myself stand out for the position" etc etc?

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Cacafuego
Jul 22, 2007

Gin_Rummy posted:

What kind of people did you target with regards to job titles? HR Managers? HR Directors? Just talent acquisiton specialists?

EDIT: And I guess, for that matter, what's the best way to approach them in this situation? Just be up front about it from the get-go? "Hey, I applied for a posting you guys had open and I was wondering what I could do to make myself stand out for the position" etc etc?

I looked for recruiters at the company I want to work for and just picked one. I was upfront about it. Here's basically what I said:

quote:

My name is _______ and I'm a (related job) with a combined 2.5 years of (related job) experience. Prior to going to nursing school, I intended on becoming a (job I want). I've applied to the job (job req xxxxxx) and my application has been sitting in 'under review' status since February. It looks like the posting is inactive now, but I've gone ahead and applied for two other (same job) positions (reqs yyyyyy and zzzzzz).

I believe I meet or exceed all the necessary requirements and can provide more info upon request. Please let me know if you think my experience and education is adequate, or whether I need to focus on gaining more experience prior to applying.

I got responses from every recruiter I emailed. Some were polite thank yous, others actually acted on it. Good luck!

mareep
Dec 26, 2009

totalnewbie posted:

He wants you to pay him to teach you how to STUFF. Don't bother.

Thanks! I figured it was some kind of similar BS, just wanted to know what exactly was being BSed :shepface:

Death Zebra
May 14, 2014

Has anyone found a job on LinkedIns job search app that wasn't just a link to another job board? In one case, I got linked to one website where I had to pass a "security check" which then redirected to my local city councils website which is accessible to the public anyway.

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Gin_Rummy posted:

Is it generally a good idea to reach out (via LinkedIn) to HR reps/recruiters of a company that you applied for via their website and try to follow up, or would this just be the modern equivalent of being the guy who calls the hiring manager every day after an interview to ask the status?

Yes, although I would caution you against coming on too strong here. Just phrase it as a general 'heads up' kind of notification and draw attention to yourself and that's about all you need to do or could ask for. Like Cacafuego said, it can be a toss up, but as long as you don't come across as a spammer putting everyone on blast you should be fine.

Death Zebra posted:

Has anyone found a job on LinkedIns job search app that wasn't just a link to another job board? In one case, I got linked to one website where I had to pass a "security check" which then redirected to my local city councils website which is accessible to the public anyway.

This is becoming more common, but it's not really remarkably different. Linkedin's primary purpose is to create visibility, both for you and for those job posters. Even if a job posting on Linkedin is a redirect, it's still a posting you may not have seen otherwise.

Radbot
Aug 12, 2009
Probation
Can't post for 3 years!
Is anyone else getting loving inundated with requests from staffing firms? I work in digital marketing and I get at least 3 emails a week from staffing firms, mostly with temp positions, all paying around a middling 60k, maybe a little more.

I had one staffer straight up get confrontational with me when I told her I didn't know anyone with experience in my field that would work for 60k in Denver, she started telling me that there are plenty of people that are interested, and I asked here "great, so why are we talking again?" I earn like 50% more than that, with loving benefits.

Harry
Jun 13, 2003

I do solemnly swear that in the year 2015 I will theorycraft my wallet as well as my WoW
Year end has ended, and vacation season is right around the corner.

Mirthless
Mar 27, 2011

by the sex ghost
So I never really took linkedin seriously but after my last stint of unemployment I figured I'd give it a shot. First week I was unemployed I must have sent out 20 apps on craigslist and indeed and careerbuilder and monster and didn't get a single loving phone call for my trouble. Updated my LinkedIn on Friday last week and I've had five recruiters chain calling me all day long trying to get into one position or another, including a good direct hire job which I didn't even think existed in Tulsa anymore.

:shrug: I guess it really works? Thanks HiroProtagonist and thread contributors, I think you saved me from two months of unemployment.

Busy Bee
Jul 13, 2004
I have my LinkedIn profile on private and have it set where I cannot see who viewed my profile and people cannot see that I viewed their profile. How do recruiters contact me about potential jobs when I have my profile set on private? Also, can people with LinkedIn Premium see that I viewed their page even with my current settings?

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Busy Bee posted:

I have my LinkedIn profile on private and have it set where I cannot see who viewed my profile and people cannot see that I viewed their profile. How do recruiters contact me about potential jobs when I have my profile set on private? Also, can people with LinkedIn Premium see that I viewed their page even with my current settings?

Given that the whole point of this thread is to do the opposite of literally everything you just said, I think that answers your first question in and of itself. :v:

As for the second, that I do not know.

Why be all secretive anyway? There are many reasons to do that with a personal social media profile, but there should be nothing on your linkedin that isn't completely bland and dry anyway, so I'm not sure I see the point of that there. You'll hardly be updating your linkedin profile with instagram posts of your latest restaurant order or humblebragging about your last hookup--unless you are some kind of field agent for an intelligence service (in which case, this thread is barely relevant to you anyway, at least right now), what other reason would you have to be coy about your professional qualifications and some flavor of headshot?

Mirthless posted:

:shrug: I guess it really works? Thanks HiroProtagonist and thread contributors, I think you saved me from two months of unemployment.

Congrats! Glad to hear it! Remember that a job isn't a job until you get the first paycheck, though.

HiroProtagonist fucked around with this message at 22:59 on May 21, 2015

Aqualung
Oct 10, 2005

Don't worry guys, Ron knows the guy who drives the crane.

Radbot posted:

Is anyone else getting loving inundated with requests from staffing firms? I work in digital marketing and I get at least 3 emails a week from staffing firms, mostly with temp positions, all paying around a middling 60k, maybe a little more.

I had one staffer straight up get confrontational with me when I told her I didn't know anyone with experience in my field that would work for 60k in Denver, she started telling me that there are plenty of people that are interested, and I asked here "great, so why are we talking again?" I earn like 50% more than that, with loving benefits.

Hahaha yeah I also get these almost every day. They always want someone with at least 5 years experience in finance or accounting, must have worked Big4 and they want to pay $75k.

Yeah OK.

I can get more if I posted on Craigslist with those qualifications.

Busy Bee
Jul 13, 2004

HiroProtagonist posted:

Given that the whole point of this thread is to do the opposite of literally everything you just said, I think that answers your first question in and of itself. :v:

As for the second, that I do not know.


Sorry, wasn't clear with my first question. I have my profile set on private but recruiters still manage to contact me about my qualifications and job experience. How?

2nd question: Also, can people with LinkedIn Premium see that I viewed their page even with my current settings?

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


As far as I can tell, setting your profile to private just means that it doesn't show up in search results from Google or other external search engines. It's still visible through LinkedIn's various tools.

Gothmog1065
May 14, 2009
Can anyone take a look at my profile and see if there are any major areas I can improve upon?

Duckman2008
Jan 6, 2010

TFW you see Flyers goaltending.
Grimey Drawer
So, i have been looking around to see what other opportunities are out there, but i really can't post online that i'm looking for a job, because i really don't want my current employer to know i am looking around. any recommendations, or would i just be skipping the public posts and reaching out to people directly?

SgtScruffy
Dec 27, 2003

Babies.


I'd like to apply for a job, and it looks like I have a second-degree connection, via a recruiter that I am connected to, with someone who is in their finance division.

I haven't really had any interaction with this recruiter beyond when she first connected with me a year or so ago - would this be an opportunity in which I should reach out to the recruiter, introduce myself, and say "I noticed you were connected to this company, do you have any other contacts you would recommend I reach out to for a position?" or would this be too much of a stretch, and I should just apply for the position via e-mail or Linked In?

Alder
Sep 24, 2013

Mirthless posted:

:shrug: I guess it really works? Thanks HiroProtagonist and thread contributors, I think you saved me from two months of unemployment.

I made a profile and joined a ton of job boards but so far it's been ineffective. Maybe I need to join more groups? Find more contacts? It's been 1 month and I think I may have to re-think my strategy for gainful employment.

FWIW: I'm a 23 yr old college student so not a whole lot of exp from prior jobs and I can't afford to do a internship(s) living in NYC. Yes, I even joined the college group.

Harry
Jun 13, 2003

I do solemnly swear that in the year 2015 I will theorycraft my wallet as well as my WoW
Have you connected with any recruiters? All the boards I've ran into are just spam.

Teeter
Jul 21, 2005

Hey guys! I'm having a good time, what about you?

So does it only require you to specify how you know someone (i.e. colleague, friend, etc) when connecting via the website? On the Android app it just lets me hit connect and the invite is sent. It seems a bit easier, but I don't know if I'm missing out on something by doing it one way over the other.

I just recently started fleshing out my profile. For some reason my email import isn't working but there are a ton of people I know through the greek system at school and it will take a while to manually add everyone since they're all 2nd degree connections. Cutting out an extra few clicks per person will save a bit of time for me.

totalnewbie
Nov 13, 2005

I was born and raised in China, lived in Japan, and now hold a US passport.

I am wrong in every way, all the damn time.

Ask me about my tattoos.
Yes; I'm "friends" with a surprisingly large number of recruiters.

Cacafuego
Jul 22, 2007

SgtScruffy posted:

I'd like to apply for a job, and it looks like I have a second-degree connection, via a recruiter that I am connected to, with someone who is in their finance division.

I haven't really had any interaction with this recruiter beyond when she first connected with me a year or so ago - would this be an opportunity in which I should reach out to the recruiter, introduce myself, and say "I noticed you were connected to this company, do you have any other contacts you would recommend I reach out to for a position?" or would this be too much of a stretch, and I should just apply for the position via e-mail or Linked In?

Just contact them. What's going to happen if you do - maybe they contact you, maybe they don't. If you don't, you're putting your CV randomly in with everyone else. Essentially, it can't hurt.

Alder
Sep 24, 2013

Harry posted:

Have you connected with any recruiters? All the boards I've ran into are just spam.

Not yet, I guess I could try mass-friending them. How do I tell that they're recruiters?

likw1d
Aug 21, 2003

When adding recruiters what is everyone usually specifying? I am in the process of taking advantage of all the info on this thread and am curious to know what everyone else chooses when connecting with recruiters.

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

likw1d posted:

When adding recruiters what is everyone usually specifying? I am in the process of taking advantage of all the info on this thread and am curious to know what everyone else chooses when connecting with recruiters.

Recruiters don't care. You're doing them a favor by reaching out to them first, rather than vice versa.

Alder posted:

Not yet, I guess I could try mass-friending them. How do I tell that they're recruiters?

It should be easy enough to tell from their title and/or position. Not sure if you mean something else here.

Alder posted:

I made a profile and joined a ton of job boards but so far it's been ineffective. Maybe I need to join more groups? Find more contacts? It's been 1 month and I think I may have to re-think my strategy for gainful employment.

FWIW: I'm a 23 yr old college student so not a whole lot of exp from prior jobs and I can't afford to do a internship(s) living in NYC. Yes, I even joined the college group.

Very likely your network isn't large enough. Remember that, as I wrote in the OP, when starting basically from scratch, joining groups is only an intermediary step to gaining access to people to connect with (recruiters, and high profile Linkedin folks as well). Getting access to the job postings themselves is nice, but also as I wrote, still a secondary benefit to doing so.

It's not the worst thing in the world to send connection requests to a lot of people, but try to be somewhat discerning about it.

This is for two main reasons--first, a few people (as evidenced by some posts in this thread) really don't appreciate unsolicited connect requests, even though the vast majority of Linkedin users don't care. Fortunately, people that are not only tolerant but enthusiastic about open networking usually make that fairly clear in one way or another, and those that are not are also not going to have large networks of their own to give your profile the wide audience that you want anyway.

Second, we still don't know (and are unlikely to ever learn) what internal algorithms Linkedin uses to identify spammers and sending "too many" connection requests in whatever arbitrary period of time risks running afoul of them. Again, this is a negligible concern if you simply take a reasoned, deliberate approach when identifying people to connect with in the first place.

Alder
Sep 24, 2013

HiroProtagonist posted:

Second, we still don't know (and are unlikely to ever learn) what internal algorithms Linkedin uses to identify spammers and sending "too many" connection requests in whatever arbitrary period of time risks running afoul of them. Again, this is a negligible concern if you simply take a reasoned, deliberate approach when identifying people to connect with in the first place.

Welp, that's good to hear at least my LinkedIn account won't be banned anytime soon. Out of curiosity if there's any known scams involved w/this site as I've been getting random requests from people who may or may not be bots. So far I've been trolling the hiring boards like elsewhere.

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Alder posted:

Welp, that's good to hear at least my LinkedIn account won't be banned anytime soon. Out of curiosity if there's any known scams involved w/this site as I've been getting random requests from people who may or may not be bots. So far I've been trolling the hiring boards like elsewhere.

Honestly, it doesn't matter. Scams, whatever they might be, if they exist, should be easy enough to identify at some point early on, and since success on LinkedIn is fundamentally in some way always going to be a function of your network, any kind of cost that connecting with a scammer might incur you, the long term benefit still outweighs that.

If we get to a point where LinkedIn scans become a legitimate everyday concern, that might change obviously. For now though, connections are going to always be, far and away, a net benefit to you personally.

Alder
Sep 24, 2013

HiroProtagonist posted:

If we get to a point where LinkedIn scans become a legitimate everyday concern, that might change obviously. For now though, connections are going to always be, far and away, a net benefit to you personally.

Alright, now time to keep browsing the different pages. It reminds me of the job search engines but at the same time there's way too much clutter even w/a ad-blocker enabled.

Busy Bee
Jul 13, 2004
I am currently in the job market and wanting to get back in touch with the owner of a consulting firm that I worked for a few years ago. I worked for her firm immediately after college and after my contract was over, she was very helpful in trying to find me new connections to land me a new job. Unfortunately, since I had no experience besides the short contract I had with her company, many other employers and contacts were hesitant in going any further with me. Well now its a few years later, I have solid experience under my belt and I would like to get back in touch with her. I am linked with her on LinkedIn and I also have her Email as well. How should I go about this?

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
Email her?

Busy Bee
Jul 13, 2004

FrozenVent posted:

Email her?

How should I go about it? Should I ask her to see if she wants to meet for coffee? Ask her directly to see if she knows of any relevant open positions?

Cacafuego
Jul 22, 2007

I was offered and accepted my dream job last week all because I sent a message to a corporate recruiter on linkedin a couple months ago. I applied in January, hadn't heard anything by April, so I connected with a recruiter, who connected me with the proper recruiter. I made several phone call interviews regarding my original application and they flew me to corporate HQ for a face to face a couple weeks ago. That went well, so I was offered the job.

Seriously, if you're thinking about contacting someone about a job on LinkedIn, just do it.

Bhodi
Dec 9, 2007

Oh, it's just a cat.
Pillbug

Busy Bee posted:

How should I go about it? Should I ask her to see if she wants to meet for coffee? Ask her directly to see if she knows of any relevant open positions?
You aren't asking her on a date, email her and say remember me, well I'm in the market looking for new opportunities, here's my updated resume and contact me at 1234567890 if you think you have anything that might be a good fit or if you think there might be something near-term I'd have an interest in.

Church Ladyboy
Oct 11, 2007

SQUAWK

Dunno if this is the right place for it, but if anyone here happens to work in localization/translation, I would like to connect. Hit me up on PM or send me a mail at my SA account name at gmail.

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.

Jossos posted:

Dunno if this is the right place for it, but if anyone here happens to work in localization/translation, I would like to connect. Hit me up on PM or send me a mail at my SA account name at gmail.

You might want to specify languages or industry because that's a broad-rear end field.

Mistaken For Bacon
Apr 26, 2003

Cacafuego posted:

I was offered and accepted my dream job last week all because I sent a message to a corporate recruiter on linkedin a couple months ago. I applied in January, hadn't heard anything by April, so I connected with a recruiter, who connected me with the proper recruiter. I made several phone call interviews regarding my original application and they flew me to corporate HQ for a face to face a couple weeks ago. That went well, so I was offered the job.

Seriously, if you're thinking about contacting someone about a job on LinkedIn, just do it.

I'm still pretty new to LinkedIn, but I just received an email from a company's recruiting ream notifying me of a job posting. It's a basic form email, since I opted in to receive notifications of postings of interest when I applied to another position with the company in October. I just submitted my application on the company's website, and on a whim searched for recruiters with that company. I found a guy in the area, but I have no idea if he works for the specific recruiting team. I've never had any personal contact with these folks, and I can't even see his name at this point. What sort of InMail should I send this guy? I'm thinking of just saying I got the email, applied, came across his profile and would wish to connect?

Edit: Aw gently caress, I can't send an InMail, I guess I'm signing up for this job seeker free trial.

Mistaken For Bacon fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Jun 23, 2015

Cacafuego
Jul 22, 2007

Mistaken For Bacon posted:

I'm still pretty new to LinkedIn, but I just received an email from a company's recruiting ream notifying me of a job posting. It's a basic form email, since I opted in to receive notifications of postings of interest when I applied to another position with the company in October. I just submitted my application on the company's website, and on a whim searched for recruiters with that company. I found a guy in the area, but I have no idea if he works for the specific recruiting team. I've never had any personal contact with these folks, and I can't even see his name at this point. What sort of InMail should I send this guy? I'm thinking of just saying I got the email, applied, came across his profile and would wish to connect?

Edit: Aw gently caress, I can't send an InMail, I guess I'm signing up for this job seeker free trial.

Just send the message to connect, IME, most recruiters will at least connect with you. Then you can send them messages for free. I gave them a short explanation of my experience and why I wanted to do the job I applied for. They're recruiters, they're there to talk to people like you (or to look for jobs for themselves, hah).

A recruiter from another company told me I needed experience. This one luckily passed my info on to the right person. It's a crapshoot really, and you may have to keep connecting with recruiters, but it's better than the anonymous application you put in on the corporate website.

Ossipago
Nov 14, 2012

Muldoon
I had let my Linkedin profile go for a while and came back to discover they no longer consider sharing group membership a 2nd degree connection, so you're now hit with the "how do you know (name)" questions that can prevent you from connecting if you don't have another legitimate reason to know someone...

...except with the mobile app, which still lets you connect with reckless abandon with a single click to anyone you're in a group with (unless that individual has a setting to prevent it). The caveat here is no personalization to the invite, but it seems a lesser evil in order to quickly bolster your connections. There's a handy combined feed of recent posts to all the groups you're in, so you can just scroll and connect to all the active posters super fast. I invited 30 contacts all with gigantic networks, mostly recruiters, in under 10 minutes this way. Yay for mobile, I guess.

ObsidianBeast
Jan 17, 2008

SKA SUCKS

Ossipago posted:

I had let my Linkedin profile go for a while and came back to discover they no longer consider sharing group membership a 2nd degree connection, so you're now hit with the "how do you know (name)" questions that can prevent you from connecting if you don't have another legitimate reason to know someone...

...except with the mobile app, which still lets you connect with reckless abandon with a single click to anyone you're in a group with (unless that individual has a setting to prevent it). The caveat here is no personalization to the invite, but it seems a lesser evil in order to quickly bolster your connections. There's a handy combined feed of recent posts to all the groups you're in, so you can just scroll and connect to all the active posters super fast. I invited 30 contacts all with gigantic networks, mostly recruiters, in under 10 minutes this way. Yay for mobile, I guess.

Does that "legitimate reason" ever even show up to the person you're trying to connect with? I've never seen that when I get emails saying someone wants to connect with me, and 99% of those emails are the stock "I'd like you add you to my personal network" and I usually connect anyway. A lot of people get hung up on that "how do you know this person" but I don't think that has any effect on anything.

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Ossipago posted:

I had let my Linkedin profile go for a while and came back to discover they no longer consider sharing group membership a 2nd degree connection, so you're now hit with the "how do you know (name)" questions that can prevent you from connecting if you don't have another legitimate reason to know someone...

...except with the mobile app, which still lets you connect with reckless abandon with a single click to anyone you're in a group with (unless that individual has a setting to prevent it). The caveat here is no personalization to the invite, but it seems a lesser evil in order to quickly bolster your connections. There's a handy combined feed of recent posts to all the groups you're in, so you can just scroll and connect to all the active posters super fast. I invited 30 contacts all with gigantic networks, mostly recruiters, in under 10 minutes this way. Yay for mobile, I guess.

This works on desktop too--if you click to connect one of the "suggested" contacts, you don't get asked for a reason, and it takes you to a view where you can send connection requests to loads of people, all with one click and no reason to specify.

ObsidianBeast posted:

Does that "legitimate reason" ever even show up to the person you're trying to connect with? I've never seen that when I get emails saying someone wants to connect with me, and 99% of those emails are the stock "I'd like you add you to my personal network" and I usually connect anyway. A lot of people get hung up on that "how do you know this person" but I don't think that has any effect on anything.

I don't think so, I've also never seen anything but the same generic message when someone sends me a connection request.

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HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007
bumping this, just realized it's been quiet.

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