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Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus

various cheeses posted:

Is MoA still trying to poo poo up YA0 with interceptors? On a related note, what's a good ship to welp into a gang of interceptors, but still take down a few of them in the process? RLML Caracal?

I've seen people use light missile launcher drakes.

Pack on the uncomplicated idiot-proof tank and just trade light missiles with them until you run out of health.

The insurance is fine and you get SRP for whittling down the overconfident interceptor gangs.

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koreban
Apr 4, 2008

I guess we all learned that trying to get along is way better than p. . .player hatin'.
Fun Shoe
My noble battle exequror awaits glorious fire.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Why the hell doesn't the Sacriledge get bonuses to RLMLs when every other missile cruiser does. Fukken bulllshit.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

CommonShore posted:

Why the hell doesn't the Sacriledge get bonuses to RLMLs when every other missile cruiser does. Fukken bulllshit.
The ROF bonus works.


I think the best way to gently caress up a gang of 10 inties might be something like a bait ishtar in an anom, with an arazu cloaked next to it.
edit wait forgot about the decloak targeting delay, they'd gently caress off as soon as it appears. gently caress.


VVV edit 2: yeah I getcha, but a fully bonused RLML sac does sound kinda nuts to me. The range bonus might be ok.

Klyith fucked around with this message at 22:37 on May 21, 2015

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Klyith posted:

The ROF bonus works.


I think the best way to gently caress up a gang of 10 inties might be something like a bait ishtar in an anom, with an arazu cloaked next to it.

Sucks that the damage and range bonuses don't. 1/3 ain't bad, except that it is.

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

That was the test launch to see if the cube could transmit data from space + other tests. The LightSail launches and tests out the solar sail tech they developed next year, which is what the Kickstarter is for helping to fund.

grumplestiltzkin
Jun 7, 2012

Ass, gas, or grass. No one rides for free.

Klyith posted:

The ROF bonus works.


I think the best way to gently caress up a gang of 10 inties might be something like a bait ishtar in an anom, with an arazu cloaked next to it.
edit wait forgot about the decloak targeting delay, they'd gently caress off as soon as it appears. gently caress.


VVV edit 2: yeah I getcha, but a fully bonused RLML sac does sound kinda nuts to me. The range bonus might be ok.

Use a lachesis. It's invisible on dscan, and since most interceptor gangs arent using probes it's functionally invisible to them. Just have it sitting in the anom at 0 with a shitload of scrams and grab anything that's dumb enough to land.

Fix Lag
Sep 8, 2011

There's a sale at Penny's!
The Zephyr is not targeted by Sleepers only, as far as I'm aware.

Someone go find out if the Drifters will shoot one :science:

Kiryen
Feb 25, 2015

grumplestiltzkin posted:

Use a lachesis. It's invisible on dscan, and since most interceptor gangs arent using probes it's functionally invisible to them. Just have it sitting in the anom at 0 with a shitload of scrams and grab anything that's dumb enough to land.

Along with this, use a Nestor. The gang will be thinking "lol, easy kill with some shitlord ratting in a Nestor" and then you can rep the Lachesis while your support warps in.

abigserve
Sep 13, 2009

this is a better avatar than what I had before

grumplestiltzkin posted:

Use a lachesis. It's invisible on dscan, and since most interceptor gangs arent using probes it's functionally invisible to them. Just have it sitting in the anom at 0 with a shitload of scrams and grab anything that's dumb enough to land.

Lachesis won't be able to lock interceptors fast enough for it to matter, they'll simply warp off as soon as they see it.

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

various cheeses posted:

Is MoA still trying to poo poo up YA0 with interceptors? On a related note, what's a good ship to welp into a gang of interceptors, but still take down a few of them in the process? RLML Caracal?

golems :downs:

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


Can anyone tell me what Fozzie-sov is supposed to be? All my google results are getting work proxy'd :(

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

Ciaphas posted:

Can anyone tell me what Fozzie-sov is supposed to be? All my google results are getting work proxy'd :(

instead of shooting damage at sov structures, you shoot a SOV LASER from a thing called an Entosis Link that you can fit on nearly any ship in the game

Tarranon
Oct 10, 2007

Diggity Dog

Ciaphas posted:

Can anyone tell me what Fozzie-sov is supposed to be? All my google results are getting work proxy'd :(

i will explain it to you as a scrub that does not even understand the current sov mechanics can:

instead of shooting at buildings to capture territory you install something on a ship that lets you capture points. everyone seems to think it gives too much advantage to the attacker and offers too little to the defender to maintain all that now trollable space

Drythe
Aug 26, 2012


 

DisgracelandUSA posted:

This is the most romantic thing in the world :love: :love: :love: He was your first, and you were his first. Check you contracts when you log on, there'll be a nice surprise waiting for you. Apply to MiniLuv if/when you join Goonwaffe.

Oh man, I'm gonna go blow up so many pubbies (and fail horribly) now

mikey
Sep 22, 2002

AAAAAAAAA

~~AAAAAAAAAAAAAA~~

CommonShore posted:

Why the hell doesn't the Sacriledge get bonuses to RLMLs when every other missile cruiser does. Fukken bulllshit.
Because then it would be relevant, and the Sacrilege can never be relevant. Well, it was semi-relevant in like 2007 right after it got massive HAM bonuses (and when HAMs were still good) but right before the speed nerf. Maybe 4-5 months?

It actually does still get a 5% ROF bonus for RLMLs, but the 5% damage bonus doesn't apply. You can still get 450 overheated dps from RLMLs with a 65k EHP tank and great resists, so yeah I could see it being used as close-in armor fleet anti-support.

grumplestiltzkin posted:

Use a lachesis. It's invisible on dscan, and since most interceptor gangs arent using probes it's functionally invisible to them. Just have it sitting in the anom at 0 with a shitload of scrams and grab anything that's dumb enough to land.
A Lach will have trouble actually locking and killing interceptors, though, and assumes that they warp to the anom at 0 and then sit on their hands for 5 seconds. A Huginn with ACs and a sensorbooster might do a bit better, but you'll only be able to catch 1-2 at a time. Depending on how many interceptors you're going up against and how overconfident they are, a pure DPS RLML/XLASB Rapier with an SB might be a better option, since it can kill an MSE interceptor in about 7-8 seconds.

There isn't really any one ship (other than a perfectly-placed smartbombing battleship) that can pin down and kill gangs of interceptors; that's why they're so popular.

Xolve
Oct 12, 2012

Well, shoot! We ain't come this far just to dump this thing in the drink. What's the nearest target opportunity?

Ciaphas posted:

Can anyone tell me what Fozzie-sov is supposed to be?

The life or death of a spaceship MMO.

Drythe
Aug 26, 2012


 
On my way to find some miners I found a capsule just floating out in space. I couldn't resist

https://zkillboard.com/kill/46773817/

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

mikey posted:

A Lach will have trouble actually locking and killing interceptors, though, and assumes that they warp to the anom at 0 and then sit on their hands for 5 seconds. A Huginn with ACs and a sensorbooster might do a bit better, but you'll only be able to catch 1-2 at a time. Depending on how many interceptors you're going up against and how overconfident they are, a pure DPS RLML/XLASB Rapier with an SB might be a better option, since it can kill an MSE interceptor in about 7-8 seconds.

There isn't really any one ship (other than a perfectly-placed smartbombing battleship) that can pin down and kill gangs of interceptors; that's why they're so popular.

If I may just step in and solve everyone's problems with my finely honed EFT skills:


The solution is not one, but THREE Lachesis. One remotely sensorboosted with 3 modules each from the other two Lachesis, which also sensorboost themselves with signal amplifiers, regular sensor boosters, scanres-rigs AND have an additional faction point and 5 Hobgoblins each. Group of interceptors warp in, get locked down and shot at by the main Lachesis, anything that flees gets two-volleyed before it's beyond 80km, anything that comes in close gets scrambled and torn apart by 15 Hobgoblins.

You also need an off-grid booster...and implants, obviously.

There, for a mere SIX BILLION in ships and implants that die to literally every other imaginable situation, I've fixed the problem of a handful of menacing interceptors priced at around 100 million isk and not at all wasted 15 minutes of my life while horrendously bored.

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

Glory of Arioch posted:

instead of shooting damage at sov structures, you shoot a SOV LASER from a thing called an Entosis Link that you can fit on nearly any ship in the game

I'd like to imagine that while you shoot SOV LASER at something you are really doing this. Nerd voice included.

Hazdoc
Nov 8, 2012

Muscovy Ducks are a large tropical breed, famous for their lean and extremely flavorful meat.

Hazduck!

~SMcD

Fix Lag posted:

The Zephyr is not targeted by Sleepers only, as far as I'm aware.

Someone go find out if the Drifters will shoot one :science:

Drifters shoot Zephyrs.

mikey
Sep 22, 2002

AAAAAAAAA

~~AAAAAAAAAAAAAA~~

Duzzy Funlop posted:

If I may just step in and solve everyone's problems with my finely honed EFT skills:
Seriously though, just park a cloaked smartbombing Apoc with 7 WCS at 0 at an anom with a ratter in it. Decloak and smartbomb when you see the first interceptor come out of warp, and hope the rest were already in warp. If the rest come in at range, just warp off before they get 8 points on you. 7 smartbombs won't kill an interceptor with a DCII, but it will kill one fit for align time and damage.

Use an RLML/ASB Caracal if you don't want to risk a battleship and don't care if you die.

If the interceptors are less dumb and don't all warp in at zero, use a Rapier with a sensor booster:

This locks an inty in 4 seconds and kills it in about 6-10 seconds. Decloak when you see one of them on a 5AU dscan, and your recalibration shouldn't be an issue.

Hazdoc
Nov 8, 2012

Muscovy Ducks are a large tropical breed, famous for their lean and extremely flavorful meat.

Hazduck!

~SMcD
Even if you somehow get caught in the smarbombing BS you should have an MJD too. If one of them has a scram they're pretty drat close... what's the range on large smartbombs?
You can still probably tank them and call for theta to save you, if you're near JU. Try (not) to smartbomb them while you're at it.

gwrtheyrn
Oct 21, 2010

AYYYE DEEEEE DUBBALYOO DA-NYAAAAAH!

Hazdoc posted:

Even if you somehow get caught in the smarbombing BS you should have an MJD too. If one of them has a scram they're pretty drat close... what's the range on large smartbombs?
You can still probably tank them and call for theta to save you, if you're near JU. Try (not) to smartbomb them while you're at it.

Non-faction smartbombs are 6k which is shorter range than a scram even ignoring that interceptors have bonus to range. Most of the idiots flying through our space in interceptors use long point lml maledictions though

Enemu
May 31, 2014

mikey posted:

Because then it would be relevant, and the Sacrilege can never be relevant. Well, it was semi-relevant in like 2007 right after it got massive HAM bonuses (and when HAMs were still good) but right before the speed nerf. Maybe 4-5 months?

Remember when yaay or some other terrible ex-MM FC thought HML sacrileges would be cool and welped like 100 of them into Mr. Vee in Delve :psyduck:

mikey
Sep 22, 2002

AAAAAAAAA

~~AAAAAAAAAAAAAA~~

Hazdoc posted:

Even if you somehow get caught in the smarbombing BS you should have an MJD too. If one of them has a scram they're pretty drat close... what's the range on large smartbombs?
You can still probably tank them and call for theta to save you, if you're near JU. Try (not) to smartbomb them while you're at it.
Sa Matra and his ilk don't fit scrams anyway, so it doesn't even matter. A group of 5 1-point inties can't hold you down period.

However, upon looking at his fit, one smartbombing BS won't kill it. Speaking as someone who played during the peak of 30km/s Crow bullshit, this interceptor meta is incredibly stupid. These things should absolutely not be able to fit for 2s align AND have nullification, nevermind being able to cram an MSE on for smartbomb resistance.

EponymousMrYar
Jan 4, 2015

The enemy of my enemy is my enemy.

mikey posted:

Sa Matra and his ilk don't fit scrams anyway, so it doesn't even matter. A group of 5 1-point inties can't hold you down period.

However, upon looking at his fit, one smartbombing BS won't kill it. Speaking as someone who played during the peak of 30km/s Crow bullshit, this interceptor meta is incredibly stupid. These things should absolutely not be able to fit for 2s align AND have nullification, nevermind being able to cram an MSE on for smartbomb resistance.
Agreed. I like how the Tengu/t3 cruisers are, where you specifically have to fit for nullification and neat things while giving up other configurations. Meanwhile Interceptors are a bit too low of an SP requirement for everything they can do.

Poitot's got some leeway on his fitting due to using mind links.

dialhforhero
Apr 3, 2008
Am I 🧑‍🏫 out of touch🤔? No🧐, it's the children👶 who are wrong🤷🏼‍♂️

mikey posted:

These things should absolutely not be able to fit for 2s align AND have nullification, nevermind being able to cram an MSE on for smartbomb resistance.

They don't think it be like it is, but it do.

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


Drythe posted:

On my way to find some miners I found a capsule just floating out in space. I couldn't resist

https://zkillboard.com/kill/46773817/

:black101:

nigga crab pollock
Mar 26, 2010

by Lowtax
Buff rear end Frigs

Mekchu
Apr 10, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Drythe posted:

On my way to find some miners I found a capsule just floating out in space. I couldn't resist

https://zkillboard.com/kill/46773817/

Kill them all.

mikey
Sep 22, 2002

AAAAAAAAA

~~AAAAAAAAAAAAAA~~

EponymousMrYar posted:

Agreed. I like how the Tengu/t3 cruisers are, where you specifically have to fit for nullification and neat things while giving up other configurations. Meanwhile Interceptors are a bit too low of an SP requirement for everything they can do.

Poitot's got some leeway on his fitting due to using mind links.
It should absolutely be a module, highslot with a mass penalty and some grid requirement, such that you can't make one nullified and <3s align, or nullified+LML+MSE without giving up multiple lowslots for fitting. Nullification should be useful for a point tackling interceptor or two, not for entire roving gangs that can kill poo poo on their own.

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

Duzzy Funlop posted:

If I may just step in and solve everyone's problems with my finely honed EFT skills:


The solution is not one, but THREE Lachesis. One remotely sensorboosted with 3 modules each from the other two Lachesis, which also sensorboost themselves with signal amplifiers, regular sensor boosters, scanres-rigs AND have an additional faction point and 5 Hobgoblins each. Group of interceptors warp in, get locked down and shot at by the main Lachesis, anything that flees gets two-volleyed before it's beyond 80km, anything that comes in close gets scrambled and torn apart by 15 Hobgoblins.

You also need an off-grid booster...and implants, obviously.

There, for a mere SIX BILLION in ships and implants that die to literally every other imaginable situation, I've fixed the problem of a handful of menacing interceptors priced at around 100 million isk and not at all wasted 15 minutes of my life while horrendously bored.

or you could remote sensor boost a recon with assisted sentries from a carrier

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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Is laughter the correct response when I see a Test fleet running around trying to find my cloaked ship in Delve? It feels like the correct response...

Helpimscared
Jun 16, 2014

surebet posted:

Is laughter the correct response when I see a Test fleet running around trying to find my cloaked ship in Delve? It feels like the correct response...

Its probably the only correct response

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_related&kll_id=28991726
:staredog:

grumplestiltzkin
Jun 7, 2012

Ass, gas, or grass. No one rides for free.

nigga crab pollock posted:

Buff rear end Frigs

I remember being so excited when I first trained assfrigs and could fly a jaguar. I'm pretty sure i've flown assfrigs maaaaybe ~10 times since then :(

abigserve
Sep 13, 2009

this is a better avatar than what I had before

mikey posted:

It should absolutely be a module, highslot with a mass penalty and some grid requirement, such that you can't make one nullified and <3s align, or nullified+LML+MSE without giving up multiple lowslots for fitting. Nullification should be useful for a point tackling interceptor or two, not for entire roving gangs that can kill poo poo on their own.

Agreed the interceptor meta is dumb. Nullification should be dropped imo at least for the combat focused ceptors (taranis, crow, etc)

Kiryen
Feb 25, 2015

grumplestiltzkin posted:

I remember being so excited when I first trained assfrigs and could fly a jaguar. I'm pretty sure i've flown assfrigs maaaaybe ~10 times since then :(

Speaking of Jaguars, if you take the Cawkfleet doctrine Jaguar and have max fitting skills you can use one of the versions of the small nos ('Ghoul' or 'Knave') that uses 8 PG instead of 9 and that allows you to go up to 200mm ACs for a little more range and damage over the standard doctrine fit, where it's anemic.

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Enemu
May 31, 2014

Kiryen posted:

Speaking of Jaguars, if you take the Cawkfleet doctrine Jaguar and have max fitting skills you can use one of the versions of the small nos ('Ghoul' or 'Knave') that uses 8 PG instead of 9 and that allows you to go up to 200mm ACs for a little more range and damage over the standard doctrine fit, where it's anemic.

ACs are anemic in general :shrug:

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