|
Ghost Hand posted:The weathering looks fantastic man! SRM posted:That's an interesting scheme, and it looks awesome! I probably should have built my Shadowsword to be swappable like that, but I only had the old kit and had no options but to make it a troop carrier really. Thanks guys  It's the same scheme I did for my buddy's Shadowsword, it's a real nice change from the blue I did for his 3 Knights and his horde of Dark Angels.AbusePuppy posted:Very nice looking. I really need to get back to working on my own Baneblade chassis. Do the hull bits just "sit" into the main body, or did you magnetize them on? These just sit on, I don't think they really need to be super securely attached in position unless you really want them to be (how much does it move around the board anyway, really) - but I'm working on my own 'hexblade' and will magnetize the hull bits in position, there's a guy who did a Youtube video about fully magnetizing a kit so I picked up some tips from him. krushgroove fucked around with this message at 22:57 on May 21, 2015 |
#
?
May 21, 2015 22:53
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 29, 2024 01:56 |
|
|
Captain Invictus posted:And Dreamforge Games does great IG and Marine stand-ins, and are making some kind of eldar/tyranid/necron hybrid as the next army. They aren't bad - but the detail isn't as sharp imho.
|
|
#
?
May 21, 2015 22:56
|
|
|
Sulecrist posted:I just plain cannot afford to update my Marines right now. If Space Marines were the only faction I played and 40k were the only game I played, I could swallow it, but it isn't, so I can't. Maybe in another six months I'll get the book on sale or something. Yeah, man. I feel that. I still haven't bought the new Eldar codex. I'll get around to it, but gently caress, Harlies just came out a few months ago. krushgroove posted:Crossposting from the painting thread, Finally got around to editing these, so now I get to post all these pics Man, I really dig the hell out of this color scheme. It's very alien world.
|
|
#
?
May 21, 2015 23:12
|
|
|
AbusePuppy posted:I would also argue that Micro Art Studios does good AdMech stuff with their Iron Brotherhood, Scibor does some really nice "heroic" scaled Marines, and a handful of other companies do good one-off stuff as well. Captain Invictus posted:And Dreamforge Games does great IG and Marine stand-ins, and are making some kind of eldar/tyranid/necron hybrid as the next army.
|
|
#
?
May 21, 2015 23:13
|
|
|
Captain Invictus posted:And Dreamforge Games does great IG and Marine stand-ins, and are making some kind of eldar/tyranid/necron hybrid as the next army. Not bad but not too sold on the WW2 Germany in Space/Jin-Roh angle they go with. It feels a bit too overused these days to me. I mean I won't deny their stuff looks pretty good but the aesthetics is a bit on the meh side for me. I mean I kinda like some of the Anvil Industry stuff but their poses are honestly awful and really static.
|
|
#
?
May 21, 2015 23:15
|
|
|
Dreamforge kits are way better than 'ok'
|
|
#
?
May 21, 2015 23:21
|
|
|
Captain Invictus posted:And Dreamforge Games does great IG and Marine stand-ins, and are making some kind of eldar/tyranid/necron hybrid as the next army. I don't think Dreamforge's heavy power armors or whatever jive with the Marine aesthetic for me. The torsos, arms and thighs come close, but the packs, shoulderpads and especially the lower legs are way off (if you can make out the shape of a human calf/ankle foot, it's not Astartes armor  ). They make good standins for SoB, Inquisitors, etc. though.SRM posted:I really, really don't like Scibor's stuff. Thre's just shitloads of filigree and the proportions aren't quite right. I'm not saying they're bad, they're just not the GW aesthetic. There are two problems with Scibor's stuff for me, both of which can be overcome in very specific situations: 1) way too ornate for troops or even elite squad members, like you said 2) certain parts are really noticeably off-model, particularly around the collars and the backs/power turbine things That said, as models for Terminator characters who could justifiably have weird/customized patterns of armor, they can fit the bill. I've got an Egyptian one that I'll be painting someday and I'd love to also someday get their chaos lord (the one that comes on the display base that's a massive column of burning souls). I really hope that third parties get braver and braver about producing stuff that fits the 40k aesthetic. Evilcraft's stuff is practically perfect and Spellcrow's coming right along. Their prices are a bit on the high side but since they're the small boutique guys it comes across as less of a pisstake than GW or FW.
|
|
#
?
May 21, 2015 23:22
|
|
|
JackMack posted:Inept mule, you are in the UK, you very kindly reached out to me previously when I was living in London. Do you want to come to warhammrr world? Hey man, yes I would be interested. When are we talking? I have a fairly busy first half of summer, only freeing up really in August and September, so a trip up to Nottingham needs to be fairly well planned in advance. I'm not sure I can even say I play 40K anymore as I haven't brought my army out for over a year, but I play the specialist games a lot and I'd be well keen to just come along and hang out. BeigeJacket posted:Yo, where do you guys play in London? Dark Sphere? The 40k itch has returned for me recently, but the game is nowhere near as popular at my club anymore I sometimes play at Dark Sphere, but again, I don't really do full scale 40K these days. My gaming group plays Necromunda primarily with a little GorkaMorka and ambitions to do Mordheim and Blood Bowl. We have about 6 regular members and up to 10 in total, and we meet most weeks in a pub in Borough Market. If any of that sounds good to you, you should definitely come along. Lord Twisted posted:I play fairly regularly at Dark Sphere. There's a £6 buyin apoc game on the 30th which I'll be at. Likewise to you goon sir, if you fancy branching out into Necromunda or
|
|
#
?
May 21, 2015 23:34
|
|
|
Ghost Hand posted:It's really a shame too. I love the look of the current whirlwind model. Agreed. Especially the deimos variant. If only the flac missiles didn't replace the other options. Then they'd at least have a niche.
|
|
#
?
May 21, 2015 23:45
|
|
|
Ghost Hand posted:They aren't bad - but the detail isn't as sharp imho.    And you can even put your GW heads on it if you're dissatisfied by the helmets.  Aren't you the guy who buys like, literally every single warhammer model or something? I smell bias!
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 00:12
|
|
|
Does anyone make some decent Tallarn stand ins? Itching for a project now that my Minotaurs are winding down.
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 00:25
|
|
|
Captain Invictus posted:This is a load of nonsense, I have them in-hand and they're on par if not better than GW figures in terms of detail. If anything they're better, the hands and feet are less "heroic" which I feel has always been a detriment to pretty much the entire GW product line in every area. And even if you don't like NAZIS IN SPACE, the Valkir come with enough of each alternate head to completely outfit your troops with whichever helmet you like. Oh, if GW would ever do that! These are very tempting to grab for ny Blood Angels, like dang. How well do Space Marine torsos fit over their legs??
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 00:26
|
|
|
The legs are flat on top rather than the rounded hip-torso join of Space Marine legs. I'm sure it's possible to put an SM torso on Valkir legs, though.
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 00:41
|
|
|
I'm wondering how poseable the stormtrooper arms are. Might be nice to convert them up with some Scion and SM bits to Crusaders.
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 00:41
|
|
|
PantsOptional posted:I'm wondering how poseable the stormtrooper arms are. Might be nice to convert them up with some Scion and SM bits to Crusaders.  The easiest way is to shave down the shoulder connection to the angle you want it to be.
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 00:48
|
|
|
Captain Invictus posted:The legs are flat on top rather than the rounded hip-torso join of Space Marine legs. I'm sure it's possible to put an SM torso on Valkir legs, though. My only comcern is the Marine torso and arms being too wide/big compared to the Valkir. Their legs look great though, if I can make the swap it would rid me of my least favorite feature about Astartes armor.
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 00:52
|
|
|
I didn't mention Dreamforge because I feel their "look" is different enough from GW's (intentionally so) that they're doing their own thing, even if there is a bit of nod-and-wink in terms of using them for stand-ins. But after GW, they're probably one of the best producers of plastic kits around today, and they come in at a VERY affordable price with tons of customization bits. The only thing I wish they did betterwas have some more ornate details available as addons for the models, but that's really just a nitpick. (Their stuff is definitely nowhere near GW's "heroic" scale in terms of the hands and feet and weapons, but I don't feel that's really a detriment.)Strength of Many posted:My only comcern is the Marine torso and arms being too wide/big compared to the Valkir. Their legs look great though, if I can make the swap it would rid me of my least favorite feature about Astartes armor. Marine torsos are a tad on the wide side compared to the Stormtroopers, but you could make it work with a bit of shaving/filing down. If you really want things to fit better, though, the various types of "heavy" trooper they have will be more appropriate, though. I use Stormtroopers for Guardsmen due to the smaller scale. AbusePuppy fucked around with this message at 00:57 on May 22, 2015 |
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 00:54
|
|
|
I think the Valkir legs may be larger than the Space Marine torsos, honestly. Though they might be able to be reduced in size by removing the tabards(because the kit comes with tabard and non-tabard bits for your convenience!!!!!) Also a reminder that these are the preview pics for the next line of DF models coming out, the Shadokesh, a hybrid of Eldar/Necro/Tyranid design and ridiculously badass looking      AbusePuppy posted:I didn't mention Dreamforge because I feel their "look" is different enough from GW's (intentionally so) that they're doing their own thing, even if there is a bit of nod-and-wink in terms of using them for stand-ins. But after GW, they're probably one of the best producers of plastic kits around today, and they come in at a VERY affordable price with tons of customization bits. The only thing I wish they did betterwas have some more ornate details available as addons for the models, but that's really just a nitpick. (Their stuff is definitely nowhere near GW's "heroic" scale in terms of the hands and feet and weapons, but I don't feel that's really a detriment.) It really blows me away that Mark runs a very small company yet produces miniatures far and away superior to Mantic, Reaper, and other much larger miniature companies. Yes the models and such are physically produced in china, but he's the one doing the initial design and production. Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 01:04 on May 22, 2015 |
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 01:01
|
|
|
AbusePuppy posted:I didn't mention Dreamforge because I feel their "look" is different enough from GW's (intentionally so) that they're doing their own thing, even if there is a bit of nod-and-wink in terms of using them for stand-ins. But after GW, they're probably one of the best producers of plastic kits around today, and they come in at a VERY affordable price with tons of customization bits. The only thing I wish they did betterwas have some more ornate details available as addons for the models, but that's really just a nitpick. (Their stuff is definitely nowhere near GW's "heroic" scale in terms of the hands and feet and weapons, but I don't feel that's really a detriment.) Ah, I meant the Valkir Assault/Support, sorry. My big idea right now is to put Sanguinary Guard, etc, torsos and heads on Assault trooper legs.
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 01:03
|
|
|
Hell, why not try ordering an Assault Trooper kit while they're 30% off right now, you'll get 5 Valkir to try it out with for 14 bucks. Or go whole hog and get 20 Valkir Troopers for 40 bucks.
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 01:05
|
|
|
Captain Invictus posted:Hell, why not try ordering an Assault Trooper kit while they're 30% off right now, you'll get 5 Valkir to try it out with for 14 bucks. Or go whole hog and get 20 Valkir Troopers for 40 bucks. I may grab two of the 20 box, they could make for Grey Knights or Sisters very easily.
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 01:07
|
|
|
Strength of Many posted:I may grab two of the 20 box, they could make for Grey Knights or Sisters very easily.  
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 01:17
|
|
|
Captain Invictus posted:This is a load of nonsense, I have them in-hand and they're on par if not better than GW figures in terms of detail. If anything they're better, the hands and feet are less "heroic" which I feel has always been a detriment to pretty much the entire GW product line in every area. And even if you don't like NAZIS IN SPACE, the Valkir come with enough of each alternate head to completely outfit your troops with whichever helmet you like. Oh, if GW would ever do that! No I don't buy every single Warhammer model. And I still don't agree. I'm not saying they don't look good. They do. But they do not have the level of detail that GW is putting into their new models. My Podcast partner bought several of them and I had an opportunity to look and compare. Again, good, but not as detailed. Not even as much as the Space Wolves re-release which came out years ago. And for the price - you can't beat the value. No doubt about it. The sisters conversions there look awesome.
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 01:29
|
|
|
Captain Invictus posted:I will agree that they can totally pass as their own thing, but they are still very much IG/Marine inspired(and Jin-Roh, natch). I believe Mark, the lone dude who runs Dreamforge, specifically started the company because he wanted people to have plenty of options, which, at least at the time of the creation of the kickstarter, GW kits didn't really have. At this point they may be comparable in terms of options, but are not even close in terms of price. Also for a second I got Tony from Wargames Factory and Mark from Dreamforge mixed up and wasready to write a long list of reasons to hate the guy. Fortunately I was mistaken and Mark appears to be a cool guy.
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 01:33
|
|
|
Captain Invictus posted:You're not wrong. Every time I see these I think they own. If I played sisters, this is what I would do for them. It just fits them perfectly.
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 01:59
|
|
|
Ghost Hand posted:And I still don't agree. I'm not saying they don't look good. They do. But they do not have the level of detail that GW is putting into their new models. Disagree, the level and quality of detail is definitely comparable, they just don't have as many details as modern gw models, which I like I'll take the relatively bland older GW kits over the ridiculously complex and ornate modern kits
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 02:02
|
|
|
BULBASAUR posted:Every time I see these I think they own. If I played sisters, this is what I would do for them. It just fits them perfectly. Moola posted:Disagree, the level and quality of detail is definitely comparable, they just don't have as many details as modern gw models, which I like That being said I also loved the Scions models and think the new Mechanicus stuff is dope as gently caress.
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 02:12
|
|
|
I think all the Dreamforge stuff is completely defensible as fitting the 40k aesthetic, just not the Space Marine aesthetic specifically. Love it or hate it, there's a particular chunky roundedness shared in some way by pretty much every [Astartes] power or terminator armor pattern, and it immediately sticks out like a sore thumb when something doesn't fit that aesthetic. To me, anyway.
JerryLee fucked around with this message at 02:18 on May 22, 2015 |
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 02:16
|
|
|
Moola posted:Disagree, the level and quality of detail is definitely comparable, they just don't have as many details as modern gw models, which I like A valid point. We can just agree to disagree. That's cool.
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 02:16
|
|
|
Captain Invictus posted:You're not wrong. Oh man, oh man. And the regular sister models are so bad. I'm gonna buy a squad of these right now, I notice the head is metal, is that a games workshop bit?
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 02:37
|
|
|
It's the Statuesque Miniatures head that is used there; Hasslefree also has a line of heads that fit quite well (albeit sans hair, which you would have to sculpt on yourself.)
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 03:03
|
|
|
Y'know. The 15mm Mortis Leviathan is about the right height for a Thanatar Siege-Automata. Little bit of conversion work and bam. Methinks I'll have to take a crack at a Mechanicum army after all.
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 04:09
|
|
|
So my IG lost to the DA, 9-12, but the table didn't look as close. I conceded after his 10 deathwing with powerfists and thunderhammers raped my combined squad. He dumped two squads of Deathwing, a Squad of Ravenwing, and a speeder on Cypher and his 6 guys and it still took him two turns to kill. He also lost his Librarian in the process. However adjusting to 7th edition rules is rough. Everything has re-rolls. Template weapons don't actually kill what's under the template (something about closest models?) Also what's the point of having a strong character model near the front anymore? You have to pump wounds into the char or have look out sirs instead of spreading them. Might as well put them all in the back all skaven-like. also I'm still not 100% that my wyvern is shooting like it's supposed to.
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 04:53
|
|
|
OhDearGodNo posted:So my IG lost to the DA, 9-12, but the table didn't look as close. I conceded after his 10 deathwing with powerfists and thunderhammers raped my combined squad. Wounds from the front is one aspect of modern 40k that drives me up the loving wall. The other would be no assaulting from Reserves or Outflank, even on models/units that should be doing that...
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 05:00
|
|
|
The point with characters is to have them tank with a better save, ex. lysander in Centurion for that sweet T5, eternal warrior 3++ save. Barrage still removes models under the template, important distinction, especially with the Wyvern.
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 05:01
|
|
|
Not enough Khorne talk. Still need to clean up the black and more highlights, and I am still debating how to base them, but I'm really starting to like this paint scheme. The Wrath. 
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 05:01
|
|
|
DJ Dizzy posted:The point with characters is to have them tank with a better save, ex. lysander in Centurion for that sweet T5, eternal warrior 3++ save. To be fair the Wyvern is an outstanding outlier. Also why I don't bring Gaunts anywhere that has Guard players. Nor feel bad about using five Flyrants. .. to also be fair I don't feel bad about using Flyrants at all at this point. loving GW.
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 05:03
|
|
|
DJ Dizzy posted:The point with characters is to have them tank with a better save, ex. lysander in Centurion for that sweet T5, eternal warrior 3++ save. Right, but apparently not a plasma cannon, or a frag missile. Example, I have my psyker and 3 guardsmen in a building with only a window. Since the speeder can see one guardsman through the window (barely) it fires both in there. The template scatters out of the building but still on that one model. The next one hits. Even though the psyker was never under the template, since technically it's the closest one it has to tank all the wounds unless look out sir saves him. What the gently caress.  That being said the Wyvern performs nicely. The LRBT did as well. Also the Valk. To be honest none of the units disappointed me, but there was only so much "two plasma/melta twin linked on a jetbike that ignores difficult/dangerous terrain" poo poo my army can take.
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 05:07
|
|
|
I thougtht you cant kill what you cant see, and with a scattering template it only kills what it hits (if out of LOS)
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 05:28
|
|
|
|
| # ? May 29, 2024 01:56 |
|
|
I bought Relic and I'm replacing the plastic busts that came as pieces with 40K models. Most of them I already have (the Sister, the Inquisitor, the Commisar, etc.) but I need a Rogue Trader. Any ideas on what models I can use for that?
|
|
#
?
May 22, 2015 05:43
|
|
