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Fellow Olympian goon here. The protest tonight was pretty big and started at west Olympia, lots of media out here.
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im gay posted:Fellow Olympian goon here. The protest tonight was pretty big and started at west Olympia, lots of media out here. I lol'd at the story in the Olympian. quote:“I’m angry, I’m hurt, but mostly I’m disappointed that this town would be like this,” said Ayana Egans, 22, as she broke into tears. loving greeners, dude. http://www.theolympian.com/2015/05/21/3738676_protests-underway-following-police.html?rh=1 Dusty Baker 2 fucked around with this message at 05:44 on May 22, 2015 |
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May 22, 2015 05:40
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I graduated from Evergreen last year, so yeah, that poo poo was so common. Blocking 4th Ave is always fun. People get PISSED. 
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May 22, 2015 06:41
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look at all those white people
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May 22, 2015 06:47
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Why are people protesting when almost nothing is known at this point? Bwee posted:look at all those white people i see this post a lot but what is it supposed to mean?
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May 22, 2015 06:59
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Dusty Baker 2 posted:Two black guys got shot last night in my town after shoplifting from the local safeway: My housemate was also at the safeway and said the same thing, the people may have thrown the beer at the person chasing them, but they certainly didn't attack anyone. I'll be curious what the PD and city's response is going to be. Important to note that Olympia PD don't have bodycams or dashcams, so the shooting in question is going to be the testimony of the officers vs the testimony of the people shot.
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May 22, 2015 07:29
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http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/brave-new-films-graphic-new-video-shows-how-cellphones-can-fight-police-brutalityquote:Brave New Films' Graphic New Video Shows How Cellphones Can Fight Police Brutality
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May 22, 2015 07:36
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ATP_Power posted:My housemate was also at the safeway and said the same thing, the people may have thrown the beer at the person chasing them, but they certainly didn't attack anyone. I'll be curious what the PD and city's response is going to be. Important to note that Olympia PD don't have bodycams or dashcams, so the shooting in question is going to be the testimony of the officers vs the testimony of the people shot. It's funny how "they definitely didn't touch anyone!" can morph into "definitely assault" in like two posts.
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May 22, 2015 07:37
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semper wifi posted:It's funny how "they definitely didn't touch anyone!" can morph into "definitely assault" in like two posts. Even if it is there doesn't seem to have been much point in shooting them they had beer, not ak's.
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May 22, 2015 07:50
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semper wifi posted:It's funny how "they definitely didn't touch anyone!" can morph into "definitely assault" in like two posts. Explain to me how that's grounds for being shot.
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May 22, 2015 07:53
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semper wifi posted:Why are people protesting when almost nothing is known at this point? That's exactly why I didn't take part in the protest.
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May 22, 2015 07:56
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It's not grounds for being shot at all. What it is is an insight to what kind of people they were, so when the police say that they were assaulted too, you can say "well, they had just attacked some other guy who only wanted his beer back, it makes sense that they might do worse to the cops trying to arrest them". If true, of course. Just like how in the Mike Brown case you could immediately dismiss the hands-up story by looking at his behavior in the convenience store.
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May 22, 2015 07:56
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semper wifi posted:It's funny how "they definitely didn't touch anyone!" can morph into "definitely assault" in like two posts. Ah yes, beer throwing. The ultra-violent crime plaguing the nation, that can only be responded to with deadly force.
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May 22, 2015 07:57
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semper wifi posted:It's not grounds for being shot at all. What it is is an insight to what kind of people they were, so when the police say that they were assaulted too, you can say "well, they had just attacked some other guy who only wanted his beer back, it makes sense that they might do worse to the cops trying to arrest them". If true, of course. Throwing a beer can at a store clerk as you run off seems the least threatening thing you can do in that situation, other than just loving booking it.
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May 22, 2015 07:58
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semper wifi posted:It's not grounds for being shot at all. What it is is an insight to what kind of people they were, so when the police say that they were assaulted too, you can say "well, they had just attacked some other guy who only wanted his beer back, it makes sense that they might do worse to the cops trying to arrest them". If true, of course. It doesn't matter if their actions meant lethal force was justified or not... You could tell what kind of people they were and that justifies the use of legal force.
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May 22, 2015 08:00
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To clarify: my understanding is that they ditched the beer in the direction of someone chasing them, not deliberately throwing it at someone to try and injure them.
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May 22, 2015 08:01
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Josef bugman posted:Even if it is there doesn't seem to have been much point in shooting them they had beer, not ak's. The Mattybee posted:Explain to me how that's grounds for being shot. Rah! posted:Ah yes, beer throwing. The ultra-violent crime plaguing the nation, that can only be responded to with deadly force. His custom title isn't there for no reason, you know.
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May 22, 2015 08:03
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tsa posted:If just one person barricading themselves in? Wait it out. If a repeat of the LA bank robbery? Waiting it out isn't an option. Luckily those sorts of situations are rarer now because of the existence of SWAT teams (bank robbers are not morons and there's lots of evidence to suggest they take into account the probability of success). Who gives a gently caress if heavily armed guys rob a bank. They didn't take hostages, they were trying to get away but since they were stealing the physical form of our god, dollar bills, they need to die because god forbid they get away with that FDIC insured money. They continued the shootout in a loving neighborhood. Yeah they shot first so back off since they were so heavily armored that service pistols weren't going to do poo poo. No, better just start spraying bullets everywhere and risk getting themselves killed because holy poo poo the money! If there are hostages yes call SWAT. If the fear is someone might steal some loving money or flush their ounce of weed down the toilet before the cops can break down the door and flashbang a crib then people need to get their loving heads examined. Its just money. The idea of starting a shootout that bleeds into a neighborhood because they might get away with that money is deranged. The only reason a potential death level of force should be used is if someones life is in danger, the idea that we've reached a point where the thought of someone getting away (Detectives? What are they for again?) for stealing money or a TV or some beer so we need to shoot them before they can escape is completely loving revolting. We value human life above all else unless someone steals some easily replaceable and most likely insured stuff. Then they need to die if there's a chance they might have to do something hard like investigate and try to find them after they got away! Just blow em away when you get the chance.
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May 22, 2015 14:13
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semper wifi posted:i see this post a lot but what is it supposed to mean? They're race traitors, you're only allowed to care if your skin colors match.
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May 22, 2015 15:02
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Toasticle posted:Who gives a gently caress if heavily armed guys rob a bank. They didn't take hostages, they were trying to get away but since they were stealing the physical form of our god, dollar bills, they need to die because god forbid they get away with that FDIC insured money. They continued the shootout in a loving neighborhood. Yeah they shot first so back off since they were so heavily armored that service pistols weren't going to do poo poo. No, better just start spraying bullets everywhere and risk getting themselves killed because holy poo poo the money! "The charge is bank robbery. Now, my caddie's chauffeur informs me that a bank is a place where people put money that isn't properly invested. Therefore, robbing a bank is tantamount to that most heinous of crimes, theft of money." - Judge Ron Whitey. It's amazing how on point Futurama was with that bit, I mean really we care ALOT about bank robberies and theft of easily replaceable assets.
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May 22, 2015 15:05
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Unless rich people steal it, then it's all cool and we give them more.
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May 22, 2015 15:08
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quote:Beer robbery So, at best these two people are willing to steal (crime), flee (crime) and destroy property (crime). At worst, they're willing to do all those plus assault (also crime). I don't really have a problem with the cops in this case.
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May 22, 2015 15:15
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Which ones of those faces capital punishment charges anywhere in the USA?
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May 22, 2015 15:16
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KiteAuraan posted:"The charge is bank robbery. Now, my caddie's chauffeur informs me that a bank is a place where people put money that isn't properly invested. Therefore, robbing a bank is tantamount to that most heinous of crimes, theft of money." - Judge Ron Whitey. It's amazing how on point Futurama was with that bit, I mean really we care ALOT about bank robberies and theft of easily replaceable assets. 19 officers received some kind police medal of valor in that robbery. 19 officers who risked their lives, lives of innocents (Their were people injured during this) to protect the theft of money is considered an act of valor. 100 pages ago I was scolded for for suggesting there are emergency responders who risk their lives trying to save people as some ludicrous idea. But risk your life to protect insured money? Medals for everyone! Yeah some bystanders got shot too but we got the money back. Priorities people. Yeah one of the guys bled out begging for help for an hour but saving his life was too dangerous.
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May 22, 2015 15:19
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Radish posted:Which ones of those faces capital punishment charges anywhere in the USA? I guess I should've been murdered when I shoplifted that candy bar at 13, who knew...
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May 22, 2015 15:19
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None, and good thing too because neither of the dudes shot died!
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May 22, 2015 15:19
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This Jacket Is Me posted:None, and good thing too because neither of the dudes shot died! Right, because the cops were aiming for the leg, just like they do in action movies!
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May 22, 2015 15:21
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This Jacket Is Me posted:None, and good thing too because neither of the dudes shot died! We are constantly told by gun enthusiasts that you only shoot at things you want to destroy and that police don't do shots to incapacitate. So logically it's clear that the men in this case not dying is due to luck on their part rather than any sort of restraint on the officers who acted with lethal intent.
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May 22, 2015 15:25
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They are, indeed, lucky. In a good chunk of the rest of the world, they would've had their hands or head cut off after they didn't die from the gunshot.
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May 22, 2015 15:29
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That's impressively uninspired. At least put some effort into it.
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May 22, 2015 15:32
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This Jacket Is Me posted:So, at best these two people are willing to steal (crime), flee (crime) and destroy property (crime). At worst, they're willing to do all those plus assault (also crime). I don't really have a problem with the cops in this case. You are most likely "joking" but there is substantial amount of people who really don't have a problem with police actions because after all, they only deal with Criminals. It's an extremely destructive attitude and shouldn't be encouraged.
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May 22, 2015 16:04
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semper wifi posted:Why are people protesting when almost nothing is known at this point? It's stupid LF poo poo and should be ignored, much like the people who post it.
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May 22, 2015 19:15
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-Troika- posted:It's stupid LF poo poo and should be ignored, much like the people who post it. We have people in this thread unironically complaining that the police shot the North Hollywood gunman, what set of facts do you think could possibly come out that they wouldn't protest.
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May 22, 2015 19:21
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I think it's pretty amazing that those people think 1.) that the assault was for throwing beer bottles and 2.) the suspects died and 3.) this altercation was about stealing beer, when they could have read the whole 500 word article posted right in this thread and found out that all that stuff is wrong. Triple lol because a couple people ITT apparantly were literal eye-witnesses to this  . And yet here we are, celebrating protests for some poo poo that surveilance footage, testimony and evidence is going to prove completely wrong in a few months, yet again. It's like clockwork, like some sort phases of the idiot version of the moon.
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May 22, 2015 19:37
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I think police shouldn't shoot people for stealing.
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May 22, 2015 19:43
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Jarmak posted:We have people in this thread unironically complaining that the police shot the North Hollywood gunman, what set of facts do you think could possibly come out that they wouldn't protest. And we have people in this thread furious constructing strawmen and bravely knocking them down. Unironically
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May 22, 2015 19:47
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LorrdErnie posted:I think police shouldn't shoot people for stealing. You're loving insane! With that kind of talk you're likely to incite another hollywood bank robbery!
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May 22, 2015 19:57
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The police should be less bad and more good.
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May 22, 2015 20:05
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Rent-A-Cop posted:The police should be less bad and more good. The behavior of the police is governed by a number of factors, two of which are internal institutional rules of conduct, and the processing of officers through the justice system of which they are an integral part. These two determinants of police-public interaction should be less bad and more good.
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May 22, 2015 20:08
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Alligator Horse posted:The behavior of the police is governed by a number of factors, two of which are internal institutional rules of conduct, and the processing of officers through the justice system of which they are an integral part. These two determinants of police-public interaction should be less bad and more good.
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