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Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


Alavaria posted:

Part of it is when people start trying to shoot you, you know it's working.

(Well sometimes, if they just can't lock you or whatever then they can't shoot you)

I must have been annoying SOMEONE then to get knocked into structure in one volley. Good point :v:

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smertrioslol
Apr 4, 2010

Ciaphas posted:

I must have been annoying SOMEONE then to get knocked into structure in one volley. Good point :v:

Tackle is the best. The only fun thing beyond that is flying slightly larger tackle (cynabal, orthrus, etc).

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


I don't think I've ever actually had a successful tackle in this game. I always seemed to get swatted out of the sky when I tried three years ago :shrug:

smertrioslol
Apr 4, 2010

Ciaphas posted:

I don't think I've ever actually had a successful tackle in this game. I always seemed to get swatted out of the sky when I tried three years ago :shrug:

The secret is to let suicidal dictors tackle whole fleets, and sit 200km off and warp in towards the end of the fight and get a hero tackle on an enemy fleet commander.

Jemere
Jul 21, 2014

Nietzschean posted:

code:
[b]née[/b]
nā/
adjective
originally called; born (used especially in adding a woman's maiden name after her married name)
We are The Imperium née The Clusterfuck Coalition née nerds in space.

Woops, thanks.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


surebet posted:


- Null already has "special" agents in the form of pirate faction agents in npc space


Read this sentence one more time.

It's not a null sec agent if it's not in null. If every region had a pocket of NPC space, that would be one thing.

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/372zii/my_first_driveby_doomsday/

TNT Titan pilot goes Jump Freighter hunting in low sec between Jita and Imperium space. To the surprise of absolutely no one he kills a Goonswarm NPC alt.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

Zephyrine posted:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/372zii/my_first_driveby_doomsday/

TNT Titan pilot goes Jump Freighter hunting in low sec between Jita and Imperium space. To the surprise of absolutely no one he kills a Goonswarm NPC alt.

Was it one of yours?

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus

darth cookie posted:

Was it one of yours?

Not mine personally but Daves while he was working with me.

you feelin fucky
May 23, 2009
Why was that guy afk in a jump freighter?

surebet
Jan 10, 2013

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CainFortea posted:

Read this sentence one more time.

It's not a null sec agent if it's not in null. If every region had a pocket of NPC space, that would be one thing.

...npc null?

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Outer_Ring
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Venal
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Syndicate
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Delve
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Curse
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Great_Wildlands
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/Geminate

and arguably
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/J7HZ-F
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/map/A821-A

We might be having a nomenclature issue here but npc space doesn't mean empire space automatically.

KaoliniteMilkshake
Jul 9, 2010


Half of the regions you named are aggressively useless, as they don't really have much in the way of stations or agents. Notably, northern Venal is poo poo, as is basically all of Great Wildlands. Outer Ring is pretty awful logistically but it does have OK stations and LP. Syndicate has a good layout and stations but its LP is loving worthless, so the worthwhile NPC agents aren't. You missed 2 of the better NPC pockets - Fountain and Pure Blind, both of which have great LP targets. You also missed Stain existing. This still doesn't change the fact that the deep southwest, northwest, deep southeast, and the entire drone regions in the northeast have no NPC space.

Lots of regions have no pockets of NPC space, and even more space has no NPC space that is useful in having stations with profitable agents. Pure Blind, part of Venal, Fountain, Delve, Curse, and Stain have worthwhile LP, while lots of other parts of space have poo poo LP, or no stations.

Hexel
Nov 18, 2011




Zephyrine posted:

TNT Titan pilot goes Jump Freighter hunting in low sec

Countdown until snuffbox kills that guy

Kalenn Istarion
Nov 2, 2012

Maybe Senpai will finally notice me now that I've dropped :fivebux: on this snazzy av

Xolve posted:

It's pretty key to actually promoting sov density through FozzieSov though- what's the point of amassing pilots in a small smattering of systems, if those systems can't reward the pilots?

At this point, the only reason for most people to hold sov is because it's become canon as part of their identity in game; Deklein is to Goons, what Provi is to CVA, to what Tribute is to... Falcons.


...anything that man touched turned to utter poo poo. At least at this point we can say he was 100% wrong about everything he hoped to achieve by nerfing the poo poo out of anoms.

CCP Brown Midas

gwrtheyrn
Oct 21, 2010

AYYYE DEEEEE DUBBALYOO DA-NYAAAAAH!

Zephyrine posted:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/372zii/my_first_driveby_doomsday/

TNT Titan pilot goes Jump Freighter hunting in low sec between Jita and Imperium space. To the surprise of absolutely no one he kills a Goonswarm NPC alt.

Step 1: Use a BNI cyno alt for your titan
Step 2: DD a JF that is probably blue (it was)
Step 3: Smug post on reddit

Checks out

Zephyrine
Jun 10, 2014

This is what meat is supposed to be like, dingus

gwrtheyrn posted:

Step 1: Use a BNI cyno alt for your titan
Step 2: DD a JF that is probably blue (it was)
Step 3: Smug post on reddit

Checks out

Don't forget the missfire because he left the safety on.

gwrtheyrn
Oct 21, 2010

AYYYE DEEEEE DUBBALYOO DA-NYAAAAAH!

Zephyrine posted:

Don't forget the missfire because he left the safety on.

Oops, can't make our allies seem too competent :ironicat:

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

Another one bites the dust: https://beta.eve-kill.net/kill/46841834/
#DeathToSupercaps #Omnipotence #Imperium

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I would love to read the chatlogs following that guy filming himself awox and then posting it on reddit.

I just know that he somehow thinks he did nothing wrong.

Maneck
Sep 11, 2011

Nietzschean posted:

I would love to read the chatlogs following that guy filming himself awox and then posting it on reddit.

I just know that he somehow thinks he did nothing wrong.

Hey, it COULD have been some N3 castoff (who somehow had station access) trying to do logistics work for our benefit.

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

In the TNT guys defense, its pretty hard to lose a JF. I mean you undock, cyno, dock.

Hazdoc
Nov 8, 2012

Muscovy Ducks are a large tropical breed, famous for their lean and extremely flavorful meat.

Hazduck!

~SMcD
Not blue, shoot it.

Though I secretly hope the guy gets shunned by all the Imperium delivery services from now on, would be pretty poetic.

gwrtheyrn
Oct 21, 2010

AYYYE DEEEEE DUBBALYOO DA-NYAAAAAH!

Maneck posted:

Hey, it COULD have been some N3 castoff (who somehow had station access) trying to do logistics work for our benefit.

It was lowsec. Anyone can dock there

Maneck
Sep 11, 2011

gwrtheyrn posted:

It was lowsec. Anyone can dock there

If he couldn't access our stations, it wouldn't be much benefit to us.

I understand that what you're trying to get at is: maybe this guy was stocking a low sec station in a system between CFC space and Jita. But that's just ridiculous.

causticBeet
Mar 2, 2010

BIG VINCE COMIN FOR YOU

Maneck posted:

If he couldn't access our stations, it wouldn't be much benefit to us.

I understand that what you're trying to get at is: maybe this guy was stocking a low sec station in a system between CFC space and Jita. But that's just ridiculous.

Don't people use neutral freighters highsec-> a midpoint?

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

causticBeet posted:

Don't people use neutral freighters highsec-> a midpoint?

Yup which makes this alledged blue kill even funnier. You basically cannot lose a JF to enemy action unless you are brain dead.

Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

Kalenn Istarion posted:

CCP Brown Midas

GSF cry babby

Otacon
Aug 13, 2002


Was on my bank guy in Jita and happened to log in at the right time, just as some kid in caldari provisions started whining about getting blown up.



The gist of it is that he killed some guy in Jita yesterday and didn't understand how kill rights work before undocking in a faction battleship today.

This game just makes me so happy sometimes.

gwrtheyrn
Oct 21, 2010

AYYYE DEEEEE DUBBALYOO DA-NYAAAAAH!

Maneck posted:

If he couldn't access our stations, it wouldn't be much benefit to us.

I understand that what you're trying to get at is: maybe this guy was stocking a low sec station in a system between CFC space and Jita. But that's just ridiculous.


causticBeet posted:

Don't people use neutral freighters highsec-> a midpoint?

Yes. Unless they want to be one of the many in-alliance jf losses in hisec which is its own type of :downs:

Magic Rabbit Hat
Nov 4, 2006

Just follow along if you don't wanna get neutered.

Otacon posted:

Was on my bank guy in Jita and happened to log in at the right time, just as some kid in caldari provisions started whining about getting blown up.



The gist of it is that he killed some guy in Jita yesterday and didn't understand how kill rights work before undocking in a faction battleship today.

This game just makes me so happy sometimes.

Helios Kage > i havent killed another player in 2 years

Three years, in fact, if you don't count the RF Firetail pilot whose killmail cost him his Navy Scorp. It's always interesting to look at the killboards of Highsec lifers.

Nuevo
May 23, 2006

:eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop::eyepop::shittypop:
Fun Shoe

Magic Rabbit Hat posted:

Three years, in fact, if you don't count the RF Firetail pilot whose killmail cost him his Navy Scorp. It's always interesting to look at the killboards of Highsec lifers.

What the gently caress do they DO in game? PVE forever? Mine?? :psyduck:

Kiryen
Feb 25, 2015

Boat posted:

What the gently caress do they DO in game? PVE forever? Mine?? :psyduck:

A lot of them - not all, but a lot - are alts, there to make money for mains.

For example, as far as I know just to join Sniggwaffe, not even Sniggardly itself, you have to have an income source totally separate from that pilot Enough to fly any kind of expensive doctrine they come up with.

Magic Rabbit Hat
Nov 4, 2006

Just follow along if you don't wanna get neutered.

Boat posted:

What the gently caress do they DO in game? PVE forever? Mine?? :psyduck:

This guy's killboard tells the tragic story of someone who tried to PvP in destroyers in early 2012, had a few losses, then gave it up for the HighSec life. It's a cautionary tale of becoming discouraged by something new before retreating to your comfort zone.

you feelin fucky
May 23, 2009

Kiryen posted:

A lot of them - not all, but a lot - are alts, there to make money for mains.

For example, as far as I know just to join Sniggwaffe, not even Sniggardly itself, you have to have an income source totally separate from that pilot Enough to fly any kind of expensive doctrine they come up with.

Pretty much, if you are lazy and don't have access to afktar lands you do level 4 missions in highsec for 30m an hour. If you are less lazy you do incursions for 100m. Doing it on an alt is a necessity because of wardecs, sec status and deployments.

PookBear
Nov 1, 2008

Kiryen posted:

A lot of them - not all, but a lot - are alts, there to make money for mains.

For example, as far as I know just to join Sniggwaffe, not even Sniggardly itself, you have to have an income source totally separate from that pilot Enough to fly any kind of expensive doctrine they come up with.

my favorite people in eve are the lowsec 'pirates' that talk mad poo poo on ratters on weekends but are running missions all week to make up for their dumb loving losses.

Alavaria
Apr 3, 2009
There's Moa, who did something like that.

Except when we camp their "home" and run "their" missions instead, haha. Thanks, bitches.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Alavaria posted:

There's Moa, who did something like that.

Except when we camp their "home" and run "their" missions instead, haha. Thanks, bitches.

They then crow very loudly about how 5ZXX missions are of no relevance to them and become defensive even in dek local.

HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE
Mar 31, 2010


Viva Miriya posted:

Yup which makes this alledged blue kill even funnier. You basically cannot lose a JF to enemy action unless you are brain dead.

:ohdear: Is it bad that I've lost two? In my defense the first was a standings bug that got reimbursed but the second was a midpoint jump with a neutral in system. Got a face full of Aeon, lost the freighter and about 5 billion worth of Darius' poo poo. Luckily he went and became a dev like a week later.

https://zkillboard.com/kill/12567195/ Yep that happened. There was also a chimera tagging along who made it into the POS shields with like 4 hull HP to spare.

I dunno who flies around Antimatar these days but you seem to lose a lot of carriers dude

HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE fucked around with this message at 10:41 on May 25, 2015

Bonfire Lit
Jul 9, 2008

If you're one of the sinners who caused this please unfriend me now.

Nietzschean posted:

I would love to read the chatlogs following that guy filming himself awox and then posting it on reddit.
when exactly did "awox" change meaning (again) to "killing neutrals"?

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gwrtheyrn
Oct 21, 2010

AYYYE DEEEEE DUBBALYOO DA-NYAAAAAH!

HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:

:ohdear: Is it bad that I've lost two? In my defense the first was a standings bug that got reimbursed but the second was a midpoint jump with a neutral in system. Got a face full of Aeon, lost the freighter and about 5 billion worth of Darius' poo poo. Luckily he went and became a dev like a week later.

https://zkillboard.com/kill/12567195/ Yep that happened. There was also a chimera tagging along who made it into the POS shields with like 4 hull HP to spare.

It was your own fault for jumping to a beacon instead of a station dock.

Bonfire Lit posted:

when exactly did "awox" change meaning (again) to "killing neutrals"?
Because people are stupid.

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