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Chaotic Neutral posted:Things that seem like reasons to go past the Pyramid but aren't: * You have four party members with different weapons needs and can only get 3 weapons with the Pyramid tablet. The only circumstance I can think of where that would apply is with Knight (Excalibur), Berserker (Rune Axe or Assassin Dagger), Beastmaster (Flame Lash) and Samurai or Dragoon (Masamune/Holy Lance) in which case... just go to the void anyway to get the Thor Hammer, or grind Stingrays to get the Dragon Whip. Every other arrangement (in a normal run) has some means of using the Chicken Knife, or multiple users of the same type of weapon who would be boned anyway.
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Chaotic Neutral posted:Reasons to go past the Pyramid: * You want to steal Mirage Vests from the enemies in the Island Shrine.
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I dunno - the bell is the only really useless sealed weapon, and sometimes even the situational uses of the others can justify going for a second tablet. Any group with a Ninja, for example, is probably going to want both Sasuke's and Assassin before even getting into the rest of their party, while something like White Mage/Berserker is 2 out of 3 already, and 7 of the 9 Fire/Earth jobs want their sealed weapon.ultrafilter posted:* You want to steal Mirage Vests from the enemies in the Island Shrine. Chaotic Neutral fucked around with this message at 08:07 on May 24, 2015 |
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May 24, 2015 08:02
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KataraniSword posted:* You have four party members with different weapons needs and can only get 3 weapons with the Pyramid tablet. otoh flame lash is one of the highest dps weapons in the game if the enemy takes damage from fire3, and it's worth doing the island shrine to get the beast killer anyway. no real reason not to have all three as long as you're ok grinding stingrays
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Today I learned: Thief's Knife can proc !Mug even if your attack misses. 
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LaserShark posted:I tried this the last two years, and always stop playing at the same point: in world 3, after getting the first three weapons. I keep getting confused as to what I should do next. Depending on my party, three weapons may be all I need; should I go try to pick up the rest anyway? Is there a certain order I have to visit the dungeons? Or should I just storm the void? People have mentioned the reasons to do the other stuff, but I don't think anyone's mentioned what you can do without doing the next dungeons. Some easy stuff includes taking Boco to a waterfall and getting the Magic Lamp, which casts every summon in the game starting with Bahamut and going down the list. A key strat is using Odin from it to take out one of the Neo parts, though the AoE damage of Bahamut and Leviathan are also nice. If you have a Summoner, you can go back to the pirate cave and pick up Syldra. Syldra ends up being the best summon when boosted with a Magus Rod. The big one is visiting Mirage. There you can get two of the L6 spells for each school (including Quick, the true ultimate Time Mage spell, and Osmose and Arise aren't half-bad either), the Thief Knife, a Mirage Vest, and some nice weapon and armor upgrades, plus a place to stock up on the special rings from World 1 (and Running Shoes). You can also get the Black Chocobo in Mirage and from there use it to go to a mountain where you get Bahamut (useful against enemies that absorb wind) and Phoenix Tower (Phoenix isn't as useful but I'm pretty sure there's good loot here, especially from enemies that are drops/steals). That's all I can think of off the top of my head.
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Another reason: it's your first time playing FF5 and you want to do every dungeon. 
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Or you're like me and want to do everything even if you don't need to. Except I skip Fork Tower if my only option is running Omni out of MP because screw that.
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May 24, 2015 14:44
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Carpets cleaned in 6 hours or your money [RETURN]!
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May 24, 2015 14:58
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I'm a horrible horrible scrub who burns out on every JRPG I play because I mess around with cheat codes first time through and get complacent with that.  Let's hope I can use this as an incentive to finally finish one.
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Since it doesn't seem to be mentioned in the OP, what does that Fiesta State patch actually do?
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Edward_Tohr posted:Since it doesn't seem to be mentioned in the OP, what does that Fiesta State patch actually do? It's nothing mechanical-changing; pretty sure it's just aesthetic changes.
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This will be the first summer in 4 years I'm not taking classes, so I might actually be able to complete a run! Gilgamesh be praised!
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Kyrosiris posted:It's nothing mechanical-changing; pretty sure it's just aesthetic changes. 
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Does anyone remember any of the dumb-dumb things that dumb-dumb speedrunner said last year while running his Fiesta? I vaguely remember him saying letting the Aegis Shield burn was a good idea? 
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Capsaicin posted:Does anyone remember any of the dumb-dumb things that dumb-dumb speedrunner said last year while running his Fiesta? I vaguely remember him saying letting the Aegis Shield burn was a good idea? I know there was something else about carefully calculating each crystal's health during the fight, and then managing to gently caress it all up.
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May 24, 2015 22:26
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Can Of Worms posted:Now it unlocks all the jobs at the start of the game! I wonder if that could actually make the early game tougher due to some jobs not getting any equipment until the end of the first world. What's the worst case scenario there?
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Can Of Worms posted:Now it unlocks all the jobs at the start of the game!
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Capsaicin posted:Does anyone remember any of the dumb-dumb things that dumb-dumb speedrunner said last year while running his Fiesta? I vaguely remember him saying letting the Aegis Shield burn was a good idea? Typing .dd in the IRC channel will give you a few choice summaries. I think the link for the stream is under .badfiesta but I can't check for sure right now. I'm sure Kyrosiris will be happy to summarize how badly he did, though.
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Nihilarian posted:Even the GBA jobs? No, just the ones you get from World 1, no GBA jobs and no Mimic.
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ultrafilter posted:I wonder if that could actually make the early game tougher due to some jobs not getting any equipment until the end of the first world. What's the worst case scenario there? By the time you reach the Fire Ship you'll have access to just about every weapon type, so it's not a big deal. Besides, everyone except White Mages and Monks can equip knives and those are incredibly common. Bards will be dead-weight until you have access to songs, though.
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Mega64 posted:I think the link for the stream is under .badfiesta but I can't check for sure right now. I'm sure Kyrosiris will be happy to summarize how badly he did, though. That is correct. Also holy poo poo, it was  incarnate. He also banned me from his twitch chat for trying to help him stop looking completely incompetent.he sat and ground XP on Shield Dragons for two hours.
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Chaotic Neutral posted:Things that seem like reasons to go past the Pyramid but aren't: Knuckles can drop from an enemy in Pyramid.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Knuckles can drop from an enemy in Pyramid. Yeah, but it's a rare drop, and that encounter only shows up in a Monster-in-a-Box. It shows up in normal encounters in Istory Falls, though.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Knuckles can drop from an enemy in Pyramid. An enemy that is a one-time monster-in-a-box there, isn't it? They're normal enemies in Istory Falls, but by the time you can do Istory Falls you can do the Trench. So you'd have to SR that chest constantly, which makes it... not very much less tedious.
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Capsaicin posted:Does anyone remember any of the dumb-dumb things that dumb-dumb speedrunner said last year while running his Fiesta? I vaguely remember him saying letting the Aegis Shield burn was a good idea? W.T. Fits posted:Okay, for those who haven't been following the streams, I have to put this down to preserve it for prosperity because holy loving poo poo this is terrible.
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Gonna stream a bit of my test Samurai/Ranger/Red Mage/Dragoon run. Gonna start at the point where I can actually use jobs. http://www.twitch.tv/mega64_
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I actually got it by accident last year, I think. On the plus side, it's actually pretty good until you can afford 4 pairs of hermes sandals.
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quote:1. After getting the wind drake from Bal Castle, go to Kuza and grind to level 32. Oh, right, and then he proceeded to get the Earth Crystal into its critical/Earth Shaker phase only to realize he'd forgotten to repeat step 3 after his reset. 
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Kyrosiris posted:That is correct. Somehow I managed to forget all about this horrible abortion of a run. Is there any way to find goons streaming this or is it just going to be posted in here periodically as people do it? I wouldn't mind watching some goon runs.
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KataraniSword posted:An enemy that is a one-time monster-in-a-box there, isn't it? They're normal enemies in Istory Falls, but by the time you can do Istory Falls you can do the Trench. So you'd have to SR that chest constantly, which makes it... not very much less tedious.
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KataraniSword posted:Oh, right, and then he proceeded to get the Earth Crystal into its critical/Earth Shaker phase only to realize he'd forgotten to repeat step 3 after his reset. Nah, the Float part wasn't for the Earth Crystal, it was for the Gil Cave since the turtle in there has a party-wide ground-based attack that will kill you if you're not floating. kaschei posted:What does "SR" mean? Save/Reset? Soft reset. Basically, check the chest, kill the monsters, and if the item doesn't drop, reset the game and try again.
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Jibo posted:Somehow I managed to forget all about this horrible abortion of a run. Your best bet is either here, the IRC channel, or the Stream thread.
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KataraniSword posted:An enemy that is a one-time monster-in-a-box there, isn't it? They're normal enemies in Istory Falls, but by the time you can do Istory Falls you can do the Trench. So you'd have to SR that chest constantly, which makes it... not very much less tedious. The first 4JF I ran a few years ago had 1 or 2 knuckles drop for me in there from those fights, not that I had a monk to use them on.  So do they do intentionally bad runs or is the guy just severely damaged goods?
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Evil Fluffy posted:So do they do intentionally bad runs or is the guy just severely damaged goods? Dragondarch is just very bad at Final Fantasy V. He loving had Mystic Knight and Beastmaster, for gently caress's sake, but pointedly ignored recommendations to get a/several Aquathornes to insta-kill the guardians. E: You can watch the entire shitshow here: http://www.twitch.tv/dragondarchsda/c/4476152
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I updated the balance patch after I noticed that I broke Mind Blast when I moved some things in the ROM; It would cause the player characters to enter an untargetable state (Hidden, but not hidden.) I took the oppurtunity to add a few things!code:Can Of Worms fucked around with this message at 07:38 on May 25, 2015 |
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Is it possible to make Berserk a command rather than a passive? Cause that would make the Berserker a lot more interesting.
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ultrafilter posted:Is it possible to make Berserk a command rather than a passive? Cause that would make the Berserker a lot more interesting. Ew, no, that's lame
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While I'm slowly finishing up my boss guide, I started up another guide that goes into every method to inflict status effects. This should be especially helpful for Beastmasters since it gives all enemies and general locations of those enemies for every spell. So far I've only got Blind up but I'll slowly work on more the next couple weeks. Hopefully I'll be done with it before the Fiesta begins proper. As a side-result of this, I started an exhaustive Blue Magic guide mainly to keep separate all the various places you can get Blue Magic, but that's very low priority and for now will only be updated with the status-inflicting spells since there's already solid Blue Magic guides out there. e: Poison's up now. e2: And Mini since there's little to that one (though doing the Blue Magic part of it was still time-consuming). Mega64 fucked around with this message at 21:36 on May 25, 2015 |
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Mega64 posted:While I'm slowly finishing up my boss guide, I started up another guide that goes into every method to inflict status effects. This should be especially helpful for Beastmasters since it gives all enemies and general locations of those enemies for every spell. Wow, this would be very cool. Dealing with all the Beastmaster possibilities might be a bit of a pain, though- especially with the weird collection of monsters that can show up in odd areas of the Rift (I know at the very least that Mammons, the trees that cast berserk, show up on the roof of the dimensional castle where you fight Twin Tania. Very helpful for berserking Shinryu).
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