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Fraction posted:This is a little disambiguous. The puppy isn't crying to manipulate anyone - she's crying because she's lost and confused, because she has just been snatched away from literally everything she has ever known and all the familiar sights, sounds and smells are no longer around. I really don't think it's accurate or useful to try to guess what the puppy is feeling. If you treat your dog like some poor abused orphan, you are just going to let them get their way on everything. Puppies want certain things. They want to chew on electric cords, eat chocolate, and pee on your expensive rug. If they don't get their way, they tend to whine and cry. As Big Paddy said, the key is knowing when they are whining for a want versus whining for a need. And no, the puppy is not some evil genius who is making Shibawanko dance on puppet strings. She simply knows that she wants something and she will get it if she cries long enough. The point is that the puppy is acting like it is hurt/in danger in order to get what she wants, but that isn't the case at all. No dog has ever been emotionally damaged because it was made to sleep by itself at night.
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Jumping on the crating topic: When I crate my puppy (with toys, a Kong, etc.) she tends to ignore them and just stares at me or bangs on the gate, but doesn't actually whine unless I leave the room. I'm a bit nervous about giving her any sort of negative interaction with the crate but I never really seem to see a positive one. She doesn't appear to be afraid of the it, it's where her water bowl is and its the only place I'll give her treats now and I can get her to go in by guiding her in with a treat in my hand. When I get her in there she'll go through her Kong but won't play with her toys or anything and just seems to be confused about why she's in there. I'm not sure what else I can do to make it "fun" for her
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May 20, 2015 18:43
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Feed her meals in there and try putting treats in the kong and closing the gate, when she tries to get in and whines a bit open the door and she will want to go in to get her treat and toys so she creates the connection of crate = place with food and toys.
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May 20, 2015 18:47
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We did that a few times and it did work, guess just keep doing it? Would putting all of her toys in the crate and locking her out be a good idea? She definitely won't play with her toys in there, generally.
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May 20, 2015 18:53
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If it worked a few times then keep doing it as in the end it will stick that crate = fun place.
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May 20, 2015 19:32
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It might just be because my dog is a jerk, but be cautious of what toys you leave in there. The only thing I'd dare leave in the crate with our pup is something that is nigh indestructible like a Kong. A bored puppy will find a way to destroy anything and without supervision to prevent it, that could turn into a bad ingestion.
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May 20, 2015 19:37
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couldcareless posted:It might just be because my dog is a jerk, but be cautious of what toys you leave in there. The only thing I'd dare leave in the crate with our pup is something that is nigh indestructible like a Kong. A bored puppy will find a way to destroy anything and without supervision to prevent it, that could turn into a bad ingestion. I'll keep up with the crate stuff for sure, it would solve a lot of little problems if she could reliably be in there for a decent period of time.
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May 21, 2015 00:58
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Thanks for all the replies. I gave her a chew toy rope to mess around with, I looked at kongs but they all look way too big for her mouth, even the puppy or S sizes. Instead of crating her downstairs for the night I put her in a little confined area with a carry case + bed and toilet in our bedroom. She didn't cry, although she still does when I leave the room during the day, especially when she's in an energetic mood. She's been a very sweet girl this morning, with the exception of taking a big smelly dump on the carpet but that's okay. She's only had her first round of shots. Is it okay to take her out at all for some fresh air, if I carry her in my arms instead of letting her walk? Or is that already too dangerous?
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May 21, 2015 01:30
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Shibawanko posted:She's only had her first round of shots. Is it okay to take her out at all for some fresh air, if I carry her in my arms instead of letting her walk? Or is that already too dangerous? Carrying her around should be fine. Just don't let her run around outside where other dogs or wild animals could have been. Talk to your vet to find out how common parvo is in your area.
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May 21, 2015 04:07
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I am in New England so Parvo isn't that widespread and have been taking Tanky out to places since about 9 weeks old so she gets that socialisation in. I dog park local to us has a small fenced off section inside it so we took her there last weekend so she could get a little bit of a run off lead while still getting to meet other dogs in a controlled way.
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May 21, 2015 13:03
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Guys I've had Tater for three years now and I still don't think I know what the gently caress I am doing half the time should I have him euth me y/n
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May 22, 2015 00:27
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Jet fuel may not be able to melt steel beams, but a puppy's farts sure can
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May 22, 2015 01:57
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Jet fuel can melt steel beams, i'm from nyc so i know also, puppy farts may mean worms
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May 22, 2015 18:07
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It's good that we have a vet checkup tomorrow then, hopefully it's just from the change in diet
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May 22, 2015 18:53
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as a fairly new dog owner Can you be held for threatening bodily harm against a dog? Like if I told my dog I was going to  kick its rear end
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May 22, 2015 23:31
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TheFallenEvincar posted:as a fairly new dog owner I'm pretty sure every dog owner calls their dog terrible names and threatens them with bodily harm at least once a day. I told mine I was going to punt him out the window earlier if he didn't stop squeaking at me.
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May 23, 2015 01:10
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If you do it excessively in public you'll probably get strange looks and someone might even call the cops/animal control on you. Bonus points if you have a timid dog, because then people just know that you abuse your dog.
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May 23, 2015 01:47
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I had to cut back on the insults I hurl at my dog while I'm training him when we started competing in agility since verbal abuse is grounds for dismissal  The worst thing I can call him in competitions is a butt.
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May 23, 2015 02:10
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Quick question re: Sterling at 8 months old and being fearful on busy streets. Sterling got a lot of exposure to busy streets early on and he was generally okay with them, and fine to sit under tables when eating at outside cafes. Then we started to vary his walking route and ended up spending a lot more time walking him up and down the nearby beach, and this was enough to undo all of his conditioning around busy streets being okay. After 3 months of walking him on routes with increasing intensity of traffic (with tons of treats and praise), he can handle most streets and a semi-motorway (cars, trucks) by the beach, but he still panics when we are on the main street in the suburb (cafes, cars, buses). I only walk him down one of the quieter areas of the street and its only 150m until we turn into a sidestreet, but he is just terrified. I don't even walk down it sometimes, we just sit on the corner and I stuff his face with treats but I can't see any noticeable impact. While sitting and walking down the section of street he will at least accept treats but only to snap them up quickly and then go back to walking low to the ground, pulling at his leash and starting whenever there is a noise or a car. It is literally just this street that's the problem. My current plan is to scale it right back to just sitting on the corner and feeding him treats rather than trying to actually walk down the street, and hope that eventually he will adjust and we can start trying to walk down it. I understand shelties can be high strung and nervous, and we did a lot of work on socialising him to try and counteract that (though there's still a bit of residual quick-to-spook), but it would be nice if we could walk down this street without him freaking out. Any tips, or is the current plan the way to go? Tamarillo fucked around with this message at 01:51 on May 24, 2015 |
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May 24, 2015 01:49
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Sherlock seems to have an eating problem...being a Corgi, it's the opposite of what you'd think. He doesn't seem to like to eat. And it goes in bouts...most of the time he maybe eats a few mouthfuls and then decides he's done. The last 2 days he's eaten practically nothing. But the 3-4 days prior to that, he was eating nearly all his food every day. He's 8 months old and he's been doing this since he hit 20 lbs or so. He's been holding at about 22.5 lbs the last month. he's not losing weight, and he doesn't appear to be underweight, so we're not really concerned yet. We have NOT tried to change his food yet, mainly because it seems his behavior is so erratic in this regard. Sometimes he'll happily eat, other times he won't touch it. We generally feed him twice a day, and after 30 minutes we'll pick the food up (when we remember...). So is he being a jerk, or does he have some issues with his food?
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May 24, 2015 15:08
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DaveSauce posted:Sherlock seems to have an eating problem...being a Corgi, it's the opposite of what you'd think. If he's suddenly stopped eating without any other changes to his food or routine I'd take him to the vet to rule out medical causes first.
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May 24, 2015 20:56
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Aquatic Giraffe posted:If he's suddenly stopped eating without any other changes to his food or routine I'd take him to the vet to rule out medical causes first. This really started a while ago where he would simply not finish everything we gave him, but he would still eat most of it. Then it just tapered down slowly for a while. Then suddenly he'll eat like nothing's wrong for a day or two. We always give him a small bit of kibble when we crate him, and he'll happily eat that with no problems. He acts normal otherwise. And when we bring him places that are dog friendly, he'll eat treats no problem. We generally avoid giving him treats otherwise, under the assumption that he's being picky and/or holding out for something better. So it's not like he has no appetite, it just seems that he doesn't want to eat his regular meals.
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May 24, 2015 21:40
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My parents' corgi went through the same thing when she was that age and stayed pretty lanky for a while. When she wasn't a crazy teen she started eating normally again and now that she's an old lady she's back to being picky. The breeder said it was pretty normal.
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May 24, 2015 23:17
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Instant Jellyfish posted:My parents' corgi went through the same thing when she was that age and stayed pretty lanky for a while. When she wasn't a crazy teen she started eating normally again and now that she's an old lady she's back to being picky. The breeder said it was pretty normal. That's just weird. I know dogs can be picky sometimes, especially when they know they can get high value food by holding out, but everything we heard about Corgis before we got Sherlock was that they would eat anything and everything. Here's another possibility: Is it possible that he's developed a food allergy? When he finishes eating (whether it's a mouthful or the whole bowl), he'll run out to the living room and rub his face on the carpet. We thought it was cute, then we considered he was using the carpet as a napkin. But it's kind of started to make me think that maybe his mouth itches or something...I dunno.
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May 24, 2015 23:40
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I have a lot more free time now between semesters How much time should I spend with my ten month old puppy? Is there such a thing as spending too much time with them?
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May 25, 2015 02:52
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Train the poo poo out of that puppy. Teaching him silly tricks is a good bonding experience plus it'll wear him out.
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May 25, 2015 05:49
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Crosspost to the cat thread as well: I have a slightly picky eater (loving understatement) of a dog who won't eat her food during a feeding time unless its been moistened. My friend took her for a few days while i was out of town and reported she will eat all of it completely dry at her own drat slow pace if free fed. The cats are fed in their carriers and the dog can't/isn't interested in getting it. However, I have two cats who are deeply interested in her kibble, making it hard to tell who ate what if i were to leave it out for a free feed. Both pets are getting merrick's bistro stuff basically. How do I feed all three pets without a bunch of cross eating/time investment? Options i've thought about are as follows: Continue the sequestered twice daily dog feeding Pros: She eats most of her food in a window. Poops should also follow this schedule (if lucky) Cons: I have to set aside time specifically for the dog to eat. I have to buy canned food as well. Leave the dog with kibble in her crate while i'm at work Pros: Once crate is closed, cats can't get her food. Cons: Possible poops in crate. Just leave it out and everybody free feeds Pros: Easy Cons: Cats like her food and the cats have the ability to make the dog gently caress off (one hisses and the dog will give her large berth) making food stealing easy. Possible random poops.
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May 25, 2015 18:41
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Just continue doing as you are doing now. If you free feed everyone together and the cats bully her away enough, she might even start guarding her food and then you could come home to a dead cat. Yay!
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May 26, 2015 06:35
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She ate her one cup of kibble last night dry, today she's lying on the floor ignoring it. Oh dog. You have twelve more minutes to care. Is there any reason besides maybe vomiting if she scarfs it to not feed her once a day like when I get home from work? Advantage: She's actually hungry and may eat all her food. I can take her on a long walk/dog park after without the oh gently caress I'm going to be late of before work. Likely afternoon poops. Disadvantage: I'd be a jerk?
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May 26, 2015 13:17
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Okay Alice has less separation anxiety now (although it's still there), but she's still not housebroken. She has a crate and a toilet. We put the toilet in the crate from the beginning, we thought it would make sense since she's so small and her crate has enough room for a bed and a toilet side by side. However, she would stubbornly piss and poo poo on her fluffy, comfortable bed and sleep on her toilet instead, so we took away the bed to make it obvious that the toilet is for making GBS threads. Nowadays she does *occasionally* use it to piss but she still shits outside of it (she does walk back into her crate to poo poo, so at least it's not all over the living room, but she hardly ever shits on her toilet). Whenever she's outside of her crate she will simply piss wherever. I try to carry her quickly over to her toilet but she doesn't seem to get what's expected of her. It seems like she's begun to think of her toilet as her bed, and I can't get that idea out of her head. I've tried giving her new things to use as a bed but she just assumes that they're a bunch of toilets. I've tried to replace her current toilet with just loose sheets, but she tears those apart and tries to swallow parts of them, so I really want her to use the toilet we have now. Most websites assume that you put the toilet outside of the crate somewhere. Is that what I ought to be doing? It seems like she would simply piss in her crate then whenever she's locked up... On the positive side: she's learned two commands.
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May 27, 2015 07:48
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Shibawanko posted:
I'm sorry, did you do any research at all before getting a dog? One of the main points of crate training a dog, is that it is highly reluctant to pee and poo where it sleeps. http://www.animalhumanesociety.org/training/housetraining-101 It's like in every single house training article out there. Get a crate that's just big enough for her to stand up. Get her a new bed. Get some natures miracle and clean *everything* associated with the crate/bed. Supervise and put her on a schedule. Every 2 hours take her out and reward when she goes. If she goes inside, clean it up and disinfect with Natures Miracle and don't punish her. Don't use a loving dog toilet. Take her outside.
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May 27, 2015 08:07
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ImplicitAssembler posted:I'm sorry, did you do any research at all before getting a dog? One of the main points of crate training a dog, is that it is highly reluctant to pee and poo where it sleeps. I don't punish her for pissing in the wrong place. Also, I live in a very busy area, there are loads of dogs living in this street alone who get walked right in front of my house, and my dog's still waiting for her final vaccination, which is why I haven't risked letting her walk outside yet. We've had a Pomeranian for 14 years and we've always used an indoor dog toilet for whenever she has to go indoors. Worked fine. I will sterilize her crate though and put her toilet someplace else for the time being and see if that works.
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May 27, 2015 11:06
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Quick question about what a dog "looks like" and genetics. So my mom and my sister both have purebred Papillons. Everything in their parents and grandparents registration and breeding documents would indicate they truly are purebred paps. Several years ago, do to some careless watching on my moms parts, they ended up mating and having a litter of four puppies (I know, I know, but parents and pups are all fixed now, and the pups went to live with relatives). Anyways, three of the four pups look exactly like breed standard Papillons. The confusion lies with the fourth, who looks nothing like a Papillon, whatsoever. She's twice the size of a standard Pap (not fat, just larger), and if anything she looks exactly like the breed below, the Kooikerhondje. My question is what exactly causes such a huge change in body type in what would otherwise seem to be a line of purebred dogs? Some recessive gene asserting itself out of the blue? I've seen pics of the moms littermates as adults, and those dogs now adult pups, and every one looks breed standard, except this little cro-magnon Papillon from the litter. 
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May 27, 2015 12:00
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Shibawanko posted:I don't punish her for pissing in the wrong place. Also, I live in a very busy area, there are loads of dogs living in this street alone who get walked right in front of my house, and my dog's still waiting for her final vaccination, which is why I haven't risked letting her walk outside yet. We've had a Pomeranian for 14 years and we've always used an indoor dog toilet for whenever she has to go indoors. Worked fine. What I did was put a divider in the crate so there is enough room for my puppy to stand, turn around and sleep but not enough for her to move over to poop and pee. It does mean she used to whine and bark in the night when she needed to go because her instinct is to not crap where she sleeps so it worked out well since it was a obvious cue when she needed to go and I could take her out, have her do her business outside and give her lots of pets and treats and now 4 weeks in she can sleep through the night and hasn't have an accident inside for over 2 weeks. By putting somewhere inside for her to go, especially in her crate you are wasting the best way to house break your dog. Of course is means learning the difference between bark and whine because she can't get the last bit of treat out of her kong and "hey guys I need to go poop!" but you get there.
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May 27, 2015 13:31
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Using a smaller crate (I'm using a big cat carrier for my 10wk old BC puppy, and he's held it throughout the night since like day 3 of being here) means that you can define/contain that area as a bed, and then set up a play pen or huge crated area with a toilet if need be for when you have to be out for more than a few hours. Theo has his cat carrier in a pen with toys on one side and newspaper on the other, and Nimbus the westie pup with us currently has a tiny cat carrier inside a big (aka full grown BC size) crate with toys/paper down again.
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May 27, 2015 13:38
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Bloody Hedgehog posted:Quick question about what a dog "looks like" and genetics. I know that paps occasionally throw large individuals (just google "big papillon") or something, it's definitely not unheard of. The drop ears are common to the breed, where they're called "phalène". A Kooiker probably didn't get mixed up in the litter (though, while still a rare breed in the US, there are some individuals pumping out a lot of puppies these days). I'd call it a genetic fluke. TBH, I'd love a papillon that was twice the weight of standard, but they're not that common.
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Invalid Octopus posted:I know that paps occasionally throw large individuals (just google "big papillon") or something, it's definitely not unheard of. The drop ears are common to the breed, where they're called "phalène". A Kooiker probably didn't get mixed up in the litter (though, while still a rare breed in the US, there are some individuals pumping out a lot of puppies these days). I'd call it a genetic fluke. TBH, I'd love a papillon that was twice the weight of standard, but they're not that common. Interesting info! I guess in hindsight, even right at birth we noticed she was a lot bigger than her other littermates:  Here she is a few weeks later, looking like an otter, or the groundhog from Caddyshack:  This is the only pic I have from recently, from about a year ago. That's an average coffee table behind her, so you can see her size. 
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May 27, 2015 15:40
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Shibawanko posted:We put the toilet in the crate from the beginning, we thought it would make sense since she's so small and her crate has enough room for a bed and a toilet side by side. I seriously laughed. In case you still don't get it, this was a terrible idea. You wanted your dog to relieve itself right in the same crate it sleeps in? Can you imagine crapping on one side of your bed and sleeping on the other? Shibawanko posted:However, she would stubbornly piss and poo poo on her fluffy, comfortable bed and sleep on her toilet instead... Dogs are dumb. Maybe she peed on her bed once, and after that she never wanted to sleep on it again. So the toilet was the only clean option left. Shibawanko posted:... so we took away the bed to make it obvious that the toilet is for making GBS threads. Shibawanko posted:Most websites assume that you put the toilet outside of the crate somewhere. Is that what I ought to be doing? It seems like she would simply piss in her crate then whenever she's locked up... LET HER OUT OF HER CRATE AT NIGHT FOR BATHROOM BREAKS! Don't lock a puppy in a tiny cage all night long and not give her a chance every few hours to go pee/poo. Yes, it's annoying. Yes, you will lose some sleep. That's part of owning a puppy. You wouldn't leave a baby in dirty diapers all night. I think the websites that tell you to set up a toilet near the crate say you should pen off an area and have the crate and toilet in that secured area. That way they dog can leave it's crate to do it's business. It's still not a great idea because you are training your dog to do something unnatural (relieve itself near/in it's home) and it's only going to confuse her later.
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May 27, 2015 18:24
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Tramii posted:
Pretty much this, it lasted about 2 weeks with Tanky and occasionally she needs to go in the night as she won't go on schedule yet but in return I get puppy kisses and hugs.
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I need help with a new dog question. I think this is the right place! I'm adopting a puppy that gets here next Wednesday. I'm lucky enough to work in an office where I can bring my dog to work whenever I please, so that's something I obviously want to do, but will doing this immediately be problematic later? I figure I'll have another job in a year or two where this isn't possible, will it be bad for the puppy if after a year of being with me everyday, he's stuck at home for the workday while I'm not there? I don't know if it's good to "bring him to work only somedays so he's used to being home alone", or if it even matters at all. Help please!
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