Sinnlos posted:Hello Chat thread, today I am helping children learn why gambling is bad and you will statistically never make money doing it. The mere existence of casinos is proof that is true, given they wouldn't exist if they didn't make money, and they can only make money if more people lose than win.
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i feel like steak should be on the well done side if you're going to use it as a pizza topping
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May 25, 2015 17:46
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nutranurse posted:A Good Cause. Please also tell every adult member of my family this, tia I have charts and graphs if that will help. We start with roulette and then move to more complex games. Joementum posted:i bet they won't listen Generally they do, because they get to gamble candy, and they want to find out how to win more candy. We will hit a point though where someone asks about counting cards. forbidden lesbian posted:gambling is fun and the thrill of random chance will never outlast that single thing I like games that I can influence and win.
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Disinterested posted:The mere existence of casinos is proof that is true, given they wouldn't exist if they didn't make money, and they can only make money if more people lose than win. iirc casinos make more money then every other venue of entertainment (music, film, videogames, whatever) combined
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May 25, 2015 17:47
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CoolCab posted:iirc casinos make more money then every other venue of entertainment (music, film, videogames, whatever) combined and yet donald trump still managed to have one go bankrupt
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May 25, 2015 17:48
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Disinterested posted:The mere existence of casinos is proof that is true, given they wouldn't exist if they didn't make money, and they can only make money if more people lose than win. Ehhh, not quite. In poker or in horse racing, the house just takes a cut of the pot for facilitating the gambling, and don't actually compete themselves. This is why those are two games where you can actually make money because you are competing against other people rather than the house.
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CoolCab posted:iirc casinos make more money then every other venue of entertainment (music, film, videogames, whatever) combined but unlike music and film, casinos are not art
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May 25, 2015 17:48
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Sinnlos posted:I have charts and graphs if that will help. We start with roulette and then move to more complex games. roulette is perfect because the whole ruleset is so blatantly slanted to ensure the house always wins because of the 0 Sinnlos posted:Ehhh, not quite. In poker or in horse racing, the house just takes a cut of the pot for facilitating the gambling, and don't actually compete themselves. This is why those are two games where you can actually make money because you are competing against other people rather than the house. I agree, although horse racing is a problem in other ways because of information asymmetry
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May 25, 2015 17:49
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meanwhile wagner and ezquerra take one of their periodic breaks from writing their greatest creation to do a story about mutant bount hunter johnny alpha working for not-north korea-in-the-post-apocalypse to stop someone from assassinating not-kim-jong-* 2000ad is a wonderful thing and we are all better for its existence not least of all because it gave us Dredd (the movie)
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May 25, 2015 17:49
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chattread's thoughts re:bumfight betting?
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May 25, 2015 17:49
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nutranurse posted:chattread's thoughts re:bumfight betting? uhhh
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May 25, 2015 17:50
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ive been celebrating memorial day since 8am by drinking for our troops
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May 25, 2015 17:51
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there's not enough liquour in the world to make me attend a bumfight
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May 25, 2015 17:52
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CoolCab posted:there's not enough liquour in the world to make me attend a bumfight yeah, even conceptually they seem real hosed up id give them money to stop
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May 25, 2015 17:52
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Badger of Basra posted:and yet donald trump still managed to have one go bankrupt the casino was doing fine, he declared bankuptcy on it because he was using the casino as collateral for some idiot land scheme that didn't work out
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May 25, 2015 17:53
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Popular Thug Drink posted:idiot land scheme that didn't work out trump.txt
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May 25, 2015 17:53
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nutranurse posted:yeah, even conceptually they seem real hosed up we're breaking a lot of ethical grounD here everybody give yourselves a hand
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May 25, 2015 17:54
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[insert white hands joke here]
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May 25, 2015 17:55
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dan abnett is a sci-fi writer who i like bc he read a lot of the same comics i did growing up (except he read them when they were new) so we have very similar influences on what we like in sci-fi and also he thinks there's a ghost in his house who helps him write his books
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May 25, 2015 17:55
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Disinterested posted:roulette is perfect because the whole ruleset is so blatantly slanted to ensure the house always wins because of the 0 Yeah, the very first thing we touch on is betting on red or black with a 2:1 payout. They get it immediately. Working at a horse racing track was fun, but there are two distinct classes of gamblers at the races. You have the regulars, that are there every day and know everything about all the horses and jockeys, and then you have everyone else.
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May 25, 2015 17:55
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i like blackjack the one time i went to a casino i won five hundred euros on blackjack i was smug as gently caress
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May 25, 2015 17:56
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so is gumtree just craigslist without the thinly veiled offers for narcotics and prostitution
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May 25, 2015 17:56
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RIP Twitter
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May 25, 2015 17:56
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Doesn't he now have some huge tower in Chicago to slap his name on? New discussion topic: what do you think Trump likes on pizza?
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May 25, 2015 17:57
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good luck chuck i wish there was a ghost in my apartment who helped me write things so that maybe i could actually write things and put them on the internet and not be horrifically embarassed of them even though they're fine
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May 25, 2015 17:57
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someone i know made millions off online poker he bought his house with his credit card it was apparently very funny
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May 25, 2015 17:57
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V. Illych L. posted:i like blackjack 3/4 times I play blackjack at a casino I win a lot of money despite the fact I'm blind drunk and then smugly buy everyone I'm with drinks my gambling experiences are really not what you would tell kids V. Illych L. posted:someone i know made millions off online poker yeah I know a guy who plays pro as well who bought his house without a mortgage
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May 25, 2015 17:57
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Literally The Worst posted:good luck chuck 5 years from now youd prolly be posting about how the ghost was totally trying to gently caress you
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May 25, 2015 17:58
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the only gambling i ever did was ncaa basketball brackets in high school and that was more trying to fit in with the guys than anything else the first time i did it was seventh grade, the year SU won, and i was picking literally at random or at best by whose name i liked more (i had gonzaga winning for the first couple rounds on that logic) and i ended up picking some absurd percentage of the pre-final four games accurately. blew it in the final four, though had SU losing
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May 25, 2015 17:59
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nutranurse posted:5 years from now youd prolly be posting about how the ghost was totally trying to gently caress you ghosts cant have sex
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May 25, 2015 18:00
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Literally The Worst posted:dan abnett is a sci-fi writer who i like bc he read a lot of the same comics i did growing up (except he read them when they were new) so we have very similar influences on what we like in sci-fi and also he thinks there's a ghost in his house who helps him write his books robert e howard had a ghost and it was conan!
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May 25, 2015 18:00
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V. Illych L. posted:i like blackjack Blackjack you can "game" by keeping track of cards and recalculating odds accordingly, of course, you can't do this on a scale large enough to impact the casino without getting caught. Chantilly Say posted:Doesn't he now have some huge tower in Chicago to slap his name on? His tower in Chicago is actually kind of neat, but my understanding is that he is very hands off in its operations.
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May 25, 2015 18:01
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Disinterested posted:3/4 times I play blackjack at a casino I win a lot of money despite the fact I'm blind drunk and then smugly buy everyone I'm with drinks it seems like a cool "job" at first impression, then you realise that it seems cool because playing poker for fun is fun playing poker eight-ten hours a day online for a living seems dramatically less fun, even if there's obscene amounts of money in it
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May 25, 2015 18:01
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SedanChair posted:robert e howard had a ghost and it was conan! i thought it was just that he imagined hyboria as some kinda post-pangea world that we all secretly came from or someshit still not as cool as a dude thinking he has the ghost of a british admiral living in his house and that the ghost helps him write books about space marines
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May 25, 2015 18:01
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Sinnlos posted:Blackjack you can "game" by keeping track of cards and recalculating odds accordingly, of course, you can't do this on a scale large enough to impact the casino without getting caught. i've always assumed the only reason they leave it even hypothetically +ev was to draw in nerds who want to beat the system
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May 25, 2015 18:02
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Oh, poo poo, you all said the magic word! 
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May 25, 2015 18:03
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Sinnlos posted:Blackjack you can "game" by keeping track of cards and recalculating odds accordingly, of course, you can't do this on a scale large enough to impact the casino without getting caught. this is exactly what i did, i followed the game for a bit and worked out how often they shuffled etc and decided that if i was careful enough i could make it work bloody exhausting, though
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May 25, 2015 18:03
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Literally The Worst posted:still not as cool as a dude thinking he has the ghost of a british admiral living in his house and that the ghost helps him write books about space marines wait, what
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May 25, 2015 18:04
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if you ever want to effectively destroy your soul, spend some time talking to slot machine engineers all the free to play mobile skinnerbox people have nothing on the psychological work done by one armed bandit jockeys
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May 25, 2015 18:05
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nutranurse posted:wait, what yeah i wasn't joking. i can't find anything online about it but he's talked about it at cons and such. dude thinks there's some british soldier ghost (i think he calls it The Admiral) who lives in his house and helps him write his books. dan abnett is most "famous" for a couple of things 1) being the cornerstone of the revival of Marvel's cosmic stuff, along with andy lanning (this is my favorite stuff of his because a lot of their comics are love letters to my favorite comics ever) 2) writing an absolute metric shittone of 40k books, mostly about space marines or inquisitors
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May 25, 2015 18:06
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