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For once the Gluc isn't the worst reporter in the country: http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/industries/68830591/countdown-lowers-price-on-lindt-chocolate-as-sydney-siege-inquest-resumes quote:Supermarket giant Countdown has cut the price of Lindt chocolate on the same day a coroner's inquest into the Sydney Lindt Cafe siege resumes. Alternative headline: "Supermarket in different country cuts chocolate prices because competitor launches new product, is somehow massively insensitive"
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May 25, 2015 10:32
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During May support for the National Government was up 8.5% to 54% as positive news on the NZ Budget was progressively released. The National-led Government has a large lead over a Labour/Greens alliance with their support at 42% (down 7.5%), according to the latest Roy Morgan New Zealand Poll. If a National Election were held now the latest New Zealand Roy Morgan Poll shows that National would win easily and be able to govern in their own right. Support for the Maori Party (National partners) dropped to 1% (down 0.5%) while support is unchanged for both Act NZ 1% and United Future 0%. Support has decreased for all three Parliamentary Opposition parties: Labour’s support is now at 25.5% (down 2%), Greens 10.5% (down 3%) and NZ First 6% (down 2.5%). For the parties outside Parliament the Conservative Party of NZ is 1% (unchanged) while the Internet-Mana Party alliance is at 0% (unchanged) and support for Independent/ Others is 1% (down 0.5%).  
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May 25, 2015 12:04
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May 25, 2015 19:48
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the depressing thing about national is that they're actively keen to ape progressive policies in order to get public support (and it totally works) if they were honest about their gently caress the poorism they'd lose the center but instead they're all HEY WE TOTALLY CARE ABOUT POVOS <3 <3 <3 CHECK OUT OUR BUDGET oh well
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May 25, 2015 21:08
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It is part of an annual pattern of a jump around budget time, and really, Little and the other opposition MPs really mishandled it. What is concerning though, is how big a jump it really is this year. I don't think anyone really anticipated that.
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May 25, 2015 21:17
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Butt Wizard posted:For once the Gluc isn't the worst reporter in the country: That's not even a price cut, they're currently 2 for $6 on special.
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May 25, 2015 21:18
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Vagabundo posted:It is part of an annual pattern of a jump around budget time, and really, Little and the other opposition MPs really mishandled it. What is concerning though, is how big a jump it really is this year. I don't think anyone really anticipated that. Apparently this is pre-Budget.
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May 25, 2015 21:20
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Butt Wizard posted:Apparently this is pre-Budget. Yeah, I noticed that shortly after I posted. Still though, there is a pattern of a big jump around this time every year for the government in the RM polls, followed by a steep decline and/or return to status quo after a couple of polls. The size of the jump this year is quite startling, and it would be interesting to see if it can be sustained this time around.
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May 25, 2015 22:53
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Jesus Christ, Andrew Little is already a loving disaster. That budget speech he gave was a total mess. I've already resigned myself to dealing with Key's smug face and horrible sycophants until Jacinda passes the magical barrier of "old enough to be PM".
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May 25, 2015 22:59
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On the news last night they covered med students who took a degree before starting med school, and that they were now hitting the new 7 year limit for student loans. They're hitting their final year with no way to pay for it, so they have to take a year off to work and save up the $15k required to continue training to be a doctor in New Zealand. A year is the maximum amount of time they're allowed to take off from med school and still continue their study. Uni education is still heavily subsidized (ask any foreign student just how much they're paying), so the tax payer has invested hundreds of thousands of dollars into these people so they can have their legs cut out from underneath them at the final hurdle. All in the name of financial prudence. Steve Joyce was interviewed about it and said he didn't see it as that big a problem, because doctors earn lots of money when they graduate. Smug prick clearly forgot that you have to actually graduate to earn that money, otherwise you just end up with a gigantic loan and no way to ever pay it off. I guess it serves poor people right for trying to achieve something. All for the want of a loan, not even free money, just 1 more year of a loan. I yelled at my TV like an old man  The Auspol thread goes to great lengths to get people to sign up for a party, typically the Greens. At this point yelling about things on the internet doesn't seem to be doing anything to change things, and I'm wondering if anyone here is able to share what's involved when you join a party in NZ. Assuming anyone has of course.
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NZAmoeba posted:I'm wondering if anyone here is able to share what's involved when you join a party in NZ. Assuming anyone has of course. I was a member of the Labour party, and let it lapse. I treated it as a donation that got me newsletters- I was never active in the party. I may have voted in the leader elections had that come up while I was in.
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May 25, 2015 23:19
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I keep thinking I should contact the Green party to help out, but I'm kind of useless because all I have to offer are worthless opinions and the ability to complain on the internet about the country not having the same ones.
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May 25, 2015 23:21
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Hold on, I'm pretty sure med students in their TI (final) year receive tax free stipends that are in excess of the fees charged. If a graduate of say a 3 year science degree goes in to med school they should be done with 5th year before the student loan restriction triggers.
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May 25, 2015 23:28
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Ghostlight posted:I keep thinking I should contact the Green party to help out, but I'm kind of useless because all I have to offer are worthless opinions and the ability to complain on the internet about the country not having the same ones. Are you good at ignoring emails too? They send a lot. The most interesting one I got was a reply to an email saying something along the lines of "Persons A, B and C are our delegates who will be attending the conference and voting on your behalf." The reply came through informing everyone on that list that Person A was in fact a grace member who was required to pay his dues arrears owing in order for him to be a representative, and they may need to elect someone else.
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May 25, 2015 23:30
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Ignoring emails is not just a hobby, it's basically my job.
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May 25, 2015 23:57
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May 26, 2015 00:03
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awesmoe posted:the depressing thing about national is that they're actively keen to ape progressive policies in order to get public support (and it totally works) If you think Labour would be any better for people on benefits then I have the 9 years of the Clark government to prove you wrong. Key's real strength is that he regularly outflanks Labour on the left for his headline policies, and pays only the barest attention to the needs of his party's right wing. He's Helen Clark. Noone in Labour is prepared to accept this, they're still thinking of Key as the friendly face of Don Brash - a political gateway drug which will eventually lead to voters snorting pure freemarket liberalism. Despite the fact we've plunged six years into an ACToid libertarian hellscape where children of beneficiaries are harvested for organs, we now have free healthcare for under 13s, an untoucheed WFF, interest free student loans, benefits going up and gay marriage. The horror, the horror.
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May 26, 2015 00:15
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I'm voting for John Key because I believe that every older person is entitled to superannuation.
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May 26, 2015 00:19
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Fairly confident we had interest free student loans under Labour and National's contribution has just been to give us a reduction in Student Loan Holidays, an increase in deductions, and threatened to arrest OE returners for defaulting. Also, gay marriage doesn't count against the hellscape because libertarian beliefs in the role of government would require legalising it. Ghostlight fucked around with this message at 00:39 on May 26, 2015 |
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May 26, 2015 00:37
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I wasn't aware that interest was now being charged on student loans. An interesting development. Look, am I supposed to be hysterical over Key serving up hatred and hardship for the poor or not?
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May 26, 2015 01:11
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Well, Relationships Aotearoa is probably going to close. Maybe we can get mad at that?
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dusty posted:I wasn't aware that interest was now being charged on student loans. An interesting development. Interest is only charged if you're overseas working
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May 26, 2015 01:54
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dusty posted:I wasn't aware that interest was now being charged on student loans. An interesting development. But hey, I'll give you that National has legitimately raised the benefit above inflation for the first time since the 70s, (for families with children) (while increasing obligations for those receiving it) (after pledging to drop overall benefit numbers by 25% by 2017) (while unemployment is forecast to rise above 6%) and they did it by redistributing funds from those who are better off (but still receiving a benefit) rather than from the services on which the poor depend (those funds went elsewhere).
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Unless I'm mistaken didn't the majority of Nationals M.Ps vote against the legalisation of gay marriage?
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Not quite a majority iirc, but more percentagewise than any other party except NZ First.
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SurreptitiousMuffin posted:Not quite a majority iirc, but more percentagewise than any other party except NZ First. 27 for 32 against
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mirthdefect posted:Are you good at ignoring emails too? They send a lot. yep, they send out emails constantly and i always feel bad for not engaging in local party stuff. i wasn't even involved in who our delegate will vote for
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Ghostlight posted:I wasn't aware we could claim maintaining the status quo as a significant achievement for each individual government, but that's how you presented it. I think Key deserves credit for keeping the majority of the expensive spending programs of the Clark Government despite running 7 deficits in a row. Just as Clark's Labour deserve credit for keeping children in beneficiary households living in miserable poverty despite running 9 surpluses in a row.
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Are you arguing that keeping in place the "expensive" spending policies of a surplus government through years and years of soon-to-end-I-promise deficit is actually something for which Key deserves credit? Is the credit for being politically astute enough to know that policies are best starved to death than axed, or for maintaining a lifestyle above our means?
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Nice http://www.nzherald.co.nz/entertainment/news/article.cfm?c_id=1501119&objectid=11455012 quote:Campbell Live to end this Friday
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May 26, 2015 07:07
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Key deserves credit for getting voted in multiple times while having obvious contempt for every single person in this country and their needs, wants, thoughts and feelings.
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We had Dr Jian Yang come in and speak to us today. His thing was basically "Chinese people like the National Party, and also other Chinese people. I am a Chinese person in the National Party. Chinese people vote for me because I am Chinese in the National Party." I did like his bit about how he "replaced" Pansy Wong because there needed to be a Chinese person in the party. Also, we had Todd Muller yesterday. He was surprisingly charming, and willing to admit that National totally dropped the ball in Northland. SurreptitiousMuffin fucked around with this message at 07:26 on May 26, 2015 |
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May 26, 2015 07:21
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:Key deserves credit for getting voted in multiple times while having obvious contempt for every single person in this country and their needs, wants, thoughts and feelings. We didn't give Bush credit for it, why should we give it to Key? SurreptitiousMuffin posted:We had Dr Jian Yang come in and speak to us today. His thing was basically "Chinese people like the National Party, and also other Chinese people. I am a Chinese person in the National Party. Chinese people vote for me because I am Chinese in the National Party." Eh, Tokenism's the same no matter what right-wing party you dress. Whether or not he's pro-Beijing is what gets my attention.
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WarpedNaba posted:Eh, Tokenism's the same no matter what right-wing party you dress. Whether or not he's pro-Beijing is what gets my attention.
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Ghostlight posted:Are you arguing that keeping in place the "expensive" spending policies of a surplus government through years and years of soon-to-end-I-promise deficit is actually something for which Key deserves credit? Are you suggesting we don't judge a government on it's record? Key has maintained these spending commitments; they are policy of this government. He's a Tory in name but he is literally left wing enough for Matthew Hooten to call him a communist. quote:Is the credit for being politically astute enough to know that policies are best starved to death than axed, or for maintaining a lifestyle above our means? Seems kind of silly to be upset with a politician because they are good at politics. But really - look around at the other conservative leaders in the anglosphere - I think we've got the best by far. Definitely the most left wing conservative leader. I'm more pissed at this loving hopeless opposition. dusty fucked around with this message at 08:00 on May 26, 2015 |
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May 26, 2015 07:56
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dusty posted:Seems kind of silly to be upset with a politician because they are good at politics. Exactly. Kill democracy, not politicians. Not kidding.
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