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Actual good news: SMS has said that PCARS is selling beyond their expectations.
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Good. Now they need to let me give them more money for the indycar dlc.
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# ? May 27, 2015 20:22 |
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Anyone know of a homebrew type solution to secure a steering wheel without buying an sim racing chair? I have my wheel bolted to some repurposed ikea furniture and this worked great with my old 360 wheel. With the fanatec though it's another story.. stronger FFB and cranking the wheel quickly to recover from slides means my hack wobbles a lot and it really messes with the driving. Is there a SA thread for sim nerds that talks about this stuff that I don't know about?
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# ? May 27, 2015 20:22 |
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xzzy posted:Anyone know of a homebrew type solution to secure a steering wheel without buying an sim racing chair? I have my wheel bolted to some repurposed ikea furniture and this worked great with my old 360 wheel. With the fanatec though it's another story.. stronger FFB and cranking the wheel quickly to recover from slides means my hack wobbles a lot and it really messes with the driving. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3703725
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# ? May 27, 2015 20:24 |
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Here's a Sharefactory vid I did of my "incident" at Monaco. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zGivv8U1u8
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# ? May 27, 2015 20:28 |
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dirtyfrog posted:Here's a Sharefactory vid I did of my "incident" at Monaco. I'm suddenly remembering all the reviews that praised the game's AI.
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# ? May 27, 2015 20:38 |
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dirtyfrog posted:Here's a Sharefactory vid I did of my "incident" at Monaco. You did that to yourself by doing those cars at Monaco
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# ? May 27, 2015 21:30 |
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AI is still better than Drivatards in forza.
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# ? May 27, 2015 21:34 |
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Drivatars are based on your driving cleanliness over time, if you crash a lot into surrounding traffic, so will they.
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# ? May 27, 2015 21:46 |
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Ether Frenzy posted:Drivatars are based on your driving cleanliness over time, if you crash a lot into surrounding traffic, so will they. And since that's all most people do in racing games online.....
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# ? May 27, 2015 22:05 |
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njsykora posted:I'm suddenly remembering all the reviews that praised the game's AI. im the person who wants decent ai in a racing game im the person that will forever be ignored im the person who wants decent ai in a racing game.
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# ? May 27, 2015 22:11 |
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dirtyfrog posted:Here's a Sharefactory vid I did of my "incident" at Monaco. njsykora posted:I'm suddenly remembering all the reviews that praised the game's AI. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdkvnM7j39A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ht-bfjcKJME https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3xXL977-90 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Moi0Uv9N6JE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlPMtnzM2lU You get my drift. e: Your crash dirtyfrog would have red flagged the race in real life, and they would have gotten cranes out to lift the stuck cars away.
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# ? May 27, 2015 22:29 |
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So really the failure of this game is it doesn't simulate corner crews accurately. I want a refund. Also I get that Monaco is a "tradition" but goddamn that place is a terrible place for a race, considering the speeds modern cars are capable of.
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# ? May 27, 2015 22:37 |
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xzzy posted:So really the failure of this game is it doesn't simulate corner crews accurately. I want a refund. Counterpoint: Monaco rules
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# ? May 27, 2015 22:47 |
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Norns posted:Counterpoint: Monaco rules
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# ? May 27, 2015 23:11 |
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Falken posted:Seems realistic to me. "Classic Monaco pile-up" is what they're calling it. That is unsettling as gently caress if you ask me. Also, you could probably stick the name "Goons_drive_legit_Formula_cars_at_Monaco.avi" or similar. Point still stands: Monaco a good track. EDIT: I see those race stops at Monaco and raise you a race crash from Spa in 1998. widespread fucked around with this message at 02:27 on May 28, 2015 |
# ? May 27, 2015 23:56 |
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Am I the only one who thinks the Fords Escort Mk.1 is a huge bucket of poo poo on wheels? Somehow, right out of the pits, my car pulls to the right. It is also completely abysmal to drive through a corner.Norns posted:Counterpoint: Monaco rules
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# ? May 28, 2015 15:09 |
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Norns posted:Counterpoint: Monaco rules
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# ? May 28, 2015 15:14 |
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njsykora posted:I'm suddenly remembering all the reviews that praised the game's AI. Yeah, it hasn't really impressed me as being any better than any other racing game. I quit an invitational yesterday because I couldn't get even a vaguely clean lap even in practice. Guys just cutting the poo poo out of corners and then plowing into me when they reenter the track, getting slammed into while passing... It was way worse than even playing with noobs online.
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# ? May 28, 2015 15:28 |
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Nostratic posted:Yeah, it hasn't really impressed me as being any better than any other racing game. I quit an invitational yesterday because I couldn't get even a vaguely clean lap even in practice. Guys just cutting the poo poo out of corners and then plowing into me when they reenter the track, getting slammed into while passing... It was way worse than even playing with noobs online. I was impressed early on because cars seemed to respect your track space and wouldn't intentionally side swipe you if you had the inside line going into a corner but the more I play the more the cracks are showing. I lost a race yesterday because going into a corner a car turned right into me and we both ended up spinning out. Combine that with blue flag warnings when there are no cars anywhere near you and the game being seemingly unable to handle the data of a 30 car race (I once was ranked 1st of 19 in a 30 car race where I finished 6th) there are a lot of problems that really need sorting out. I've been warned about track cutting when on the first corner of out laps, had other cars completely lose their collision detection and drive right through me and multiple times seen cars completely disappear when exiting the pits. To my mind some of these aren't small little bugs and I'd have expected at least some updates to try and fix stuff this long after release.
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# ? May 28, 2015 15:37 |
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I found that it is almost impossible to take a slowish in a practice/qualifying race weekend without trying to wait for the right moment after the pit clears but before the AI starts its full lap. If you try to brake early because your tires are cold the computer will just smash into your back every single time.
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# ? May 28, 2015 15:50 |
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You likely finished 6th due to time penalties. The AI needs some work, but for the most part I'm pretty happy. I've started lots of races at the back of the grid just to see how the AI reacts to me working my way into a 20 to 30 car pack. The game does wheel to wheel really well, they defend and generally respect my line. When I get rammed, a lot of the time it's my fault for being to agressive, or trying really risky late breaking. I've had a few wtf moments, but I bet a lot of the AI complaints are just due to poo poo driving.
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# ? May 28, 2015 15:52 |
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Yeah, there are definitely incidents where it's completely my fault, but there are a lot where, say, I'll be passing clean on a straight and the car I'm passing just slams into me. Or the AI hurtles off track and into the gravel, but just cuts straight through (without losing speed) and wham, I get t-boned. Strictly anecdotal, but it seems to happen more with road cars than anything else. Open wheel, LMP seem better about avoiding that stuff. Even the invitational I did with the Renault Megane was a slam-fest.
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# ? May 28, 2015 16:01 |
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Norns posted:You likely finished 6th due to time penalties. No, I finished 6th on the track (I could see the 5 in front of me) but in the post race results screen and on the HUD it said I was 1st. While we're on things I'd like to see I want a single season option, just pick a discipline and play through the season outside the career mode.
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# ? May 28, 2015 17:31 |
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Was doing a n M1 race in my career and the second to last lap a loving monsoon hit and I spun out in the last lap and went from 1st to 4th. I had no idea rain could just start falling randomly like that, kinda cool.
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# ? May 28, 2015 17:36 |
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Rad Valtar posted:Was doing a n M1 race in my career and the second to last lap a loving monsoon hit and I spun out in the last lap and went from 1st to 4th. I had no idea rain could just start falling randomly like that, kinda cool. Had a cool qualifying like that. 1st few laps I set a top 10 time, but then it started raining and I had to switch to rain tires. Couldn't set a better time with the rain falling. Thankfully it stopped and I had time to pull into the pits, get racing slicks, get them warmed up with a lap, and get 1 lap in before qualifying end. Ended up with the pole with that last lap.
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# ? May 28, 2015 17:46 |
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holocaust bloopers posted:Actual good news: SMS has said that PCARS is selling beyond their expectations. That sounds like great news because Ian Bell is known to have super unrealistic expectations. That said, Shift was one of the best selling racing games of last gen.
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# ? May 28, 2015 17:53 |
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I said come in! posted:That sounds like great news because Ian Bell is known to have super unrealistic expectations. That said, Shift was one of the best selling racing games of last gen. What's this in reference to?
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# ? May 28, 2015 17:55 |
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Norns posted:What's this in reference to? Everything Ian Bell (he is the head of slightly mad studios) ever says. He has a bit of a ego, but at least he can back that up with producing really great games.
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# ? May 28, 2015 17:57 |
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To be fair. When it comes to kickstarts, people have really loving terrible entitlment. He should probably filter himself with a PR guy though. Honestly I just assumed all the drama was reddit being reddit.
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# ? May 28, 2015 18:03 |
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I said come in! posted:Everything Ian Bell (he is the head of slightly mad studios) ever says. He has a bit of a ego, but at least he can back that up with producing really great games. So he's the anti-Molyneux?
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# ? May 28, 2015 18:04 |
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njsykora posted:So he's the anti-Molyneux? Exactly. Like, PCARS was way behind schedule, but at least it delivered and is amazing. The stuff on Reddit is crap though. People over there are making things up about the PCARS forums.
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# ? May 28, 2015 18:06 |
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njsykora posted:No, I finished 6th on the track (I could see the 5 in front of me) but in the post race results screen and on the HUD it said I was 1st. Norns posted:The AI needs some work, but for the most part I'm pretty happy. All that said, they do need to touch up AI with respect to multi-class races because there's no reason they shouldn't get the hell out of the way for a faster class of vehicle that they aren't even racing against.
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# ? May 28, 2015 19:48 |
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Yeah. The AI needs to respect blue flags instead of acting like it doesn't exist. And, they are loving superman in the wet.
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# ? May 28, 2015 19:56 |
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The AI for the most part has been reasonably good, and even appears to learn the track a bit as a race progresses, however in the Rain they really need to be toned down a notch to brake a bit earlier then they are. So often they will break later than me, ramming into me, and all of them piling up after overshooting a hairpin turn in the rain. Besides that, they race like I would expect assholes that are in it to win it would race for the most part.
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# ? May 28, 2015 19:59 |
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Norns posted:Yeah. The AI needs to respect blue flags instead of acting like it doesn't exist. And, they are loving superman in the wet. This is accurate. AND when they get bumped off the track, they miraculously don't lose it and somehow come straight back onto the track without batting an eye. Meanwhile, I've somehow done 45 flips in the air and land in another continent.
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# ? May 28, 2015 20:56 |
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Norns posted:And, they are loving superman in the wet. I guess while we're talking about AI issues: we can't forget to mention they often forget how to reverse and if they get stuck nose-first into a wall they will often just be stuck there, gassing it into a wall until the end of the session (practice, qualifying, or race).
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# ? May 28, 2015 21:09 |
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Yah AI unaffected in the wet or going off track is a huge deal. They're generally aware of the player and will back off given enough time to "see" the player. Man, I really love PCARS. It has some quality of life issues like HUD edits not being saved, a crummy photo mode, and other things. The core gameplay is just so loving rewarding though.
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# ? May 28, 2015 21:28 |
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Agreed on all points above. I really hope they continue support. The game is fantastic. It's not "OMG loving BROKE" like certain hives of scum and villainy would lead you to belive. Just needs some TLC. And Indycars.
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Hello, running Formula B on Laguna Seca is extremely my poo poo. Thanks for reading. edit: Formula A Williams Martini livery. If you don't race with this, gently caress you. bloops fucked around with this message at 22:16 on May 28, 2015 |
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