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EDIT: Oh, new page.  56k not ok Garbage idiots is now over on turn 51, EA Ermor claiming victory due to a simultaneous capture of three thrones. The Victor:  This was a fairly normal EA game, with one difference that I exploited mercilessly: double income. Somehow nobody else seemed to realise that this translates into, functionally, half-price mercenaries. Combined with an O3P3G3 scales build and an awake pretender, this let me crap out a ton of soldiers in the early days and expand significantly better than my neighbours. This was also helped by the secret cave tunnels which gave me excellent access to far away provinces. At one point around turn 6 I had so much excess money, even after buying mercs and capping out my resource budget, I ended up buying an army of 120 ko-oni's to send into the dark scary caves with my god.  You might also note the rather low dom score of 5, which despite my worries didn't seem to hinder me at all in the end. Probably due to the excessive number of H2 pontifexes I was churning out. I honestly can't really remember why I took those magic paths, it wasn't for the bless and the only thing I ended up doing with my god was astral empowering him to make a single cystal coin. Anyway, around turn 12 I'd eaten all the indie provinces I could, probably around 20. Arco, Marveni and Ulm were next to me, so I decided to attack Marveni. A couple of initial setbacks, coupled with a homophobic rant or two from my opponent, but eventually he got crushed. Then I slowly ate the chain-staling Ulm and site searched aggressively. An unofficial truce with Boing and a NAP until turn 50 with Nifelheim meant I was pretty much left alone. Turn 30ish I noticed Mictlan was probably my biggest threat and convinced most of the remaining players that killing blood was a good idea. Thanks to a couple of indie amazon provinces I was cranking out research that was second only to his, combined with a massive astral gem income, so I decided to empower a crystal sorceress to cast eyes of god, followed swiftly by wrath of god and stellar focus. Then as the easily reachable provinces of mictlan were crumbling I went for artifacts, shoved up eternal pyre and started really cranking lightless lanterns. God eyes also let me judiciously eye up my neighbours provinces for nice looking sites, work out exactly what all the thrones were worth, and chortle quietly to myself as I saw everyone else's graphs. Last ten turns were a cakewalk really, just strategic attacks on Pan, Kitfox and Lanka to get me access to the thrones I needed. I think I pretty much had it in the bag as soon as people turned on Mictlan. Enough talking, graph time: Provinces  You can really see that early merc expansion boost kick in. Forts  I got quite annoyed at Kitfox for catching up to me here. Income  Gem Income  Definitely had that nailed, even when Boing finally started contesting my globals at the end. Research  Dominion  Pan was blood-saccing like hell for a while there, which I think annoyed Kitfox and Lanka no end. Army Size  Me and Lanka neck-and-neck here, except the majority of his was freespawn and I paid for every last troop. Lots of legionnaires and amazon archers. Map 
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RockyB posted:I decided to attack Marveni. A couple of initial setbacks, coupled with a homophobic rant or two from my opponent, but eventually he got crushed. Classic Nesbit!
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May 27, 2015 20:40
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Also take note of the 90 provinces for 12 players.
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May 27, 2015 20:40
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The idea of EA Ermor winning a not badnations game is extremely confusing to me
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May 27, 2015 20:48
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Everyone decided to kill blood and ignore the enormous Roman mega-expansion. I saw it, but I have the defense that I was one of the blood nations being insta-killed.
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May 27, 2015 20:51
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No bad nations, only bad players. And with a dom5 pretender too, usually only the province of Desura. Really though the double income played right into my hands, and I got lucky with indies and secret cave tunnels to get almost twice the provinces of anyone else by turn 12/15.
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May 27, 2015 20:52
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If pan hadn't been bloodsaccing me to poo poo I'd have happily fought the roman hordes. Instead I had to go kick hippie rear end then go AI. 
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May 27, 2015 21:09
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My memory is poor but that might have been kinda my fault. I may have sent my blood slaves to Pan before Boing stormed my cap.
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May 27, 2015 21:13
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Chomp8645 posted:Classic Nesbit! If someone has a history of doing that kind of stuff, shouldn't they not be let in games then?
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May 27, 2015 21:26
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Niefelheim here. I actually did notice how large you were getting, but just couldn't realistically do anything about it, even disregarding the NAP. I got hemmed in extremely early, and even eating Arco still left me with fewer than the 15 provinces supposedly alotted for each player. I wasn't able to get in on the cave network, which I did notice, due to getting blocked off before I even got a connection with one. And you may notice I was stalling on Mictlan until I determined it was already a foregone conclusion - ergo, I grabbed three provinces on my border already basically emptied of troops. And with the distribution of gem sites leaving me with a surfeit of what I didn't need, and a lack of what I did, I was never really able to mass troops to take on your doomstacks that I saw running around. edit: Let's just leave it at this map was terrible to the Nth degree and move on.
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May 27, 2015 21:27
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Lord Koth posted:edit: Let's just leave it at this map was terrible to the Nth degree and move on. This map was the reason I started working on an alternative map generator. I'm still salty about it.
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May 27, 2015 21:35
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Corbeau posted:This map was the reason I started working on an alternative map generator. I'm still salty about it. The biggest problems with the map weren't the generators fault. Whoever made the map set it too waaay too few provinces. It still sucked extra hard for me (Arco) and whoever was playing Burritos.
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May 27, 2015 21:43
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fool_of_sound posted:and whoever was playing Burritos. Hi.
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May 27, 2015 22:03
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I think this was my fault but I can't recall how precisely I messed up. Either I used the wrong map or I told Samog the wrong number of players. I didn't intend for this to be an idiot blood bath.
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May 27, 2015 22:09
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Slaan posted:If someone has a history of doing that kind of stuff, shouldn't they not be let in games then? As far as I'm aware there really isn't any type of power structure in this community and therefore nobody to ban/exclude people. If someone is a dick you basically have three options... A. Don't let person in your game. (If host) B. Don't play with person. C. Do play with person, laugh as everyone kills them for being a dick.
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May 27, 2015 22:25
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Chomp8645 posted:As far as I'm aware there really isn't any type of power structure in this community and therefore nobody to ban/exclude people. If someone is a dick you basically have three options... D. Do play with person, immediately declare war on them regardless of any other circumstances
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May 27, 2015 22:27
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jon joe posted:D. Do play with person, immediately declare war on them regardless of any other circumstances Also acceptable, and best combined with option C for maximum effect.
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May 27, 2015 22:45
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Being unlikable and/or offensive in this game is a good way to hand your neighbors free land. In all seriousness, Dominions is basically Diplomacy with hidden information on how well people are doing.
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May 27, 2015 23:20
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Corbeau posted:Being unlikable and/or offensive in this game is a good way to hand your neighbors free land. In all seriousness, Dominions is basically Diplomacy with hidden information on how well people are doing. Which kinda defeats the core aspect of Diplomacy :U
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May 27, 2015 23:38
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jon joe posted:Which kinda defeats the core aspect of Diplomacy :U I think it's the opposite, really, since the information is only partially hidden. Diplomacy itself is a really, really boring game (much like Werewolf) in that the only mechanic is popularity.
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May 27, 2015 23:42
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Corbeau posted:I think it's the opposite, really, since the information is only partially hidden. Diplomacy itself is a really, really boring game (much like Werewolf) in that the only mechanic is popularity. I happen to very much enjoy both Diplomacy and Werewolf :U
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May 28, 2015 00:14
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jon joe posted:D. Do play with person, immediately declare war on them regardless of any other circumstances I did this with neruz for a while.  and modpud thank god she's gone, good riddens to bad hostsjon joe posted:I happen to very much enjoy both Diplomacy and Werewolf :U proof itt that jonjoe is a disturbed individual
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May 28, 2015 00:18
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Kitfox88 posted:proof itt that jonjoe is a disturbed individual Can we really judge a man for his taste in games while playing dom4? Je suis jonjoe
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May 28, 2015 00:20
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JonJoe takes triple major bless in Werewolf
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May 28, 2015 00:23
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Decrepus posted:JonJoe takes triple major bless
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May 28, 2015 00:24
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Kitfox88 posted:proof itt that jonjoe is a disturbed individual This is true because I played this game and got fourth place.
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May 28, 2015 00:26
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RockyB posted:Dominion Operation: blood sac at the expense of everything else has proven to be a resounding success. I wanted to see how much raw pushing power I could pick up. I basically had sacced from Turn 2 on, with every temple posting at least one saccer every turn until the peak, at which point I ran into supply issues stalemating Lanka. As I recall, I peaked at about 40 provinces of dom coverage, with Kitfox, of all people, getting most of my foreign dom coverage. Some things I neglected to do: sneak some preaching Dryads out to push Dom further, buy enough Pans (90% of the income came from a B7 pretender, which was barely keeping up towards the end, and pulled into battle at the end), and use harpy patrollers (I read that flying gives a patrol bonus? Either way, would've been research saved).
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May 28, 2015 00:51
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Kitfox88 posted:I did this with neruz for a while. Oh is that why there was that brief era where you kept launching stupid attacks against me and dying horribly. I did wonder.
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May 28, 2015 01:19
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hey in that one ma game where i was ponymens and you were ctis i took your cap!!!! don't short sell me mr
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Kitfox88 posted:hey in that one ma game where i was ponymens and you were ctis i took your cap!!!! don't short sell me mr Ponymen rushed ctis?! Now I've heard it all.
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May 28, 2015 02:48
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Kitfox88 posted:I did this with neruz for a while I have taken up your mantle.
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2015-05-27 18:30:27 +0200 Initiates of the Deep, deep seer: lore remake Witness of the Deep, Soldier of the Deep Summon spells: Flame Jelly, Bishop Fish Oceanian lore rewritten Oceania Turmoil in coastal provinces, order in land/sea provinces Haliades replaces Bishop Fish as oceanian priests Capricorn and Siren coastal recruits and chaos rebate Dominion less likely to spread across sea-land borders New unique items for Marignon and R'lyeh Improved magic item info UW pretender rebates and nation restrictions Dagon remade (grab and swallow instead of trample) New story events Save and exit also marks turn as unfinished Pelagian/oceanian name lists Marignon is getting a buff!
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May 28, 2015 04:10
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NotDeadYet posted:I have taken up your mantle. Its true he has. Looks like Oceania is becoming a mixed land\sea nation which seems interesting and possibly not terrible.
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May 28, 2015 04:12
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Double income on a small provs/player means blood is a lot worse than normal, blood sac excepted. Not sure how no one realized that.
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amuayse posted:2015-05-27 18:30:27 +0200 the ocean is still going to be hosed up and not fun though
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May 28, 2015 07:58
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Samog posted:the ocean is still going to be hosed up and not fun though much like your posting
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May 28, 2015 08:33
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quote:Oceania Turmoil in coastal provinces, order in land/sea provinces Interesting, it seems the idea here is Oceania being a nation that can have peace in the Ocean, and in well inside land, but for whatever lore reasons it has turmoil and chaos in coastal provinces.
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May 28, 2015 08:50
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Turin Turambar posted:Interesting, it seems the idea here is Oceania being a nation that can have peace in the Ocean, and in well inside land, but for whatever lore reasons it has turmoil and chaos in coastal provinces. Conflict between sea peoples and land peoples I'm guessing.
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May 28, 2015 09:21
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Samog posted:the ocean is still going to be hosed up and not fun though
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Samog posted:the ocean is still going to be hosed up and not fun though Yes, well, there are sharks in the ocean. Sharks! gently caress sharks and gently caress the ocean.
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