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TheDisreputableDog posted:So here's the thing. haha yes "we", you loving nerd
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TheDisreputableDog posted:So you're assuming he was gay because he had long hair too? Nth Doctor posted:In the same WP article: Don't run from the stupid poo poo you said about Romney's bullying. You stuck your foot in it, you should at least admit as much.
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May 27, 2015 22:20
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just cause you on a mailing list doesnt make you a "we", buddy
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Man, it's almost like if you spend 20+ years screaming about a political couples' supposed scandals and corruption which ultimately never seems to pan out to more than any other career politician, and often much less than even that, people start to look askance at the latest dreadful thing you're going on about. And that's the thing, like, he couldn't even be bothered to come up with a Bad Deed, just "look there was money!!".
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May 27, 2015 22:23
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:
No statistics cited. Boo. Half of African Americans worry about their financial future. One of their top worries is having a job in 12 months. The economy is regularly cited as the number one concern their demographic, like in all demographics.
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May 27, 2015 22:34
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:Bill Clinton lead the US effort to get World Cup 2022, and during that period his foundation received millions from the actual winners which are at this moment embroiled in a corruption scandal involving millions in bribes. You have to be blinded by partisanship to not find that suspicious. Did Bill somehow sabotage the US effort, but only just by a few votes?
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May 27, 2015 22:35
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TheDisreputableDog posted:So here's the thing. After all the bullshit accusations, including that whole Benghazi circus, any conspiracy about Hillary Clinton absolutely needs to be airtight, because otherwise it's the same song and dance of throwing everything at the wall and hoping something sticks. Your accusations that Qatar got the world cup by bribing Bill Clinton (as opposed to the notoriously corrupt FIFA organization) and that Hillary ran some of her emails through a private server are comical when compared to actual scandals. For example, George Bush manufactured evidence and lied to the country to get it to go to war, one in which no-bid contracts were awarded to companies and reconstruction efforts were mired in corruption.
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Who said this when asked which avenger he would be?quote:"Oh I don't know, I think of all the movies out there I kind of love Captain America," said the likely presidential candidate. "You know, there's nothing like the red, white, blue and being strong and standing up for folks, but I don't know. You have a fun time watching any of those." Scott Walker
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May 27, 2015 22:44
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I refuse to vote for anyone with any questionable money issues or ethics problems but who still maybe kind of sort of matches my ideology. I look forward to casting a ballot that's entirely blank save maybe some local no-name position.
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May 27, 2015 22:48
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Who said this when asked which avenger he would be? I think Captain America is well-written and acted and there's a nice subversiveness to him. And he had really solid standalone movies, particularly being buddycop with Black Widow. So broken clock twice a day, etc.
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May 27, 2015 22:51
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mlmp08 posted:I refuse to vote for anyone with any questionable money issues or ethics problems but who still maybe kind of sort of matches my ideology. You can write yourself in you know, its what I do when I hate everyone running for city council.
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May 27, 2015 22:52
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Santorum's in. Edit: Hopefully he's not all over the place this time. Everyone knows that Santorum is somewhat of an inevitability, and when Santorum runs everyone knows the mess that can result.
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May 27, 2015 22:53
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Will the GOP continue to be idiotic? we report you decide!
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Full Battle Rattle posted:Santorum's in. The Republican primaries are about to get all shook up and frothy.
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Shageletic posted:
Statistics or not, Sanders' belief that the root of all these problems is in the economics is wrong. It's part (a big part), but it's not the whole picture. Right now the pendulum in this country is moving left-of-center on the social issues of our day regardless of who holds the office of POTUS. The economics pendulum is still way to the right, and if either Hillary or another Republican is elected it will continue that swing, because right now the populist sentiment in that regard is still behind the social sentiment for leftist change.
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mlmp08 posted:I refuse to vote for anyone with any questionable money issues or ethics problems but who still maybe kind of sort of matches my ideology. It's like 2008 all over again, drumming up another historic millennial and minority vote will be child's play.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Who said this when asked which avenger he would be? SOMEONE didn't read the comics.
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FizFashizzle posted:SOMEONE didn't read the comics. Don't assume ol' Scottie isn't a big fan of William Burnside.
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the shadow toker posted:What the hell is this? I like Hillary fine. I want a democratic nominee that's going to A. support liberal positions B. defend whats left of the social welfare state and supreme court against a republican congress and C. Win I don't think Hillary is that good a politician. She's not very charismatic and she has a really hard time motivating non-female, non-partisan voters. She couldn't even beat a junior senator for the nomination in 2008, for example. I mean, yeah, she checks the "generic Democrat" box and that's better than any reasonable alternative, but that's literally all she does. If the Republican Party were in any way reasonably competitive, if they were anything other than a hot steaming mess of insanity she would have absolutely no chance at all of winning. Even as it is, she's a highly disliked, vulnerable candidate who could be beaten by any vaguely likeable sane Republican candidate. The only reason she's acceptable is that the Republican Party is incapable of selecting a sane candidate right now.
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ElrondHubbard posted:After all the bullshit accusations, including that whole Benghazi circus, any conspiracy about Hillary Clinton absolutely needs to be airtight, because otherwise it's the same song and dance of throwing everything at the wall and hoping something sticks. Your accusations that Qatar got the world cup by bribing Bill Clinton (as opposed to the notoriously corrupt FIFA organization) and that Hillary ran some of her emails through a private server are comical when compared to actual scandals. For example, George Bush manufactured evidence and lied to the country to get it to go to war, one in which no-bid contracts were awarded to companies and reconstruction efforts were mired in corruption. Looks like FIFA was bribing the wrong Obama cabinet member, anyway. Should have focused on Holder.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I don't think Hillary is that good a politician. She's not very charismatic and she has a really hard time motivating non-female, non-partisan voters. She couldn't even beat a junior senator for the nomination in 2008, for example.
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computer parts posted:Oh no, she's not as charismatic as the most charismatic candidate either party has gotten in the past 35 years. Whether she has less charisma than Al Gore is a tough call but he was in Futurama so...
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sullat posted:Looks like FIFA was bribing the wrong Obama cabinet member, anyway. Should have focused on Holder. What if it comes out that Clinton alerted Holder to the shady stuff then accepted the donations? That would be a glorious gently caress you.
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paranoid randroid posted:haha yes "we", you loving nerd Hey, who knows. A top republican strategist might actually be posting on a comedy forum using a character from a children's fantasy novel as his screen name! We've got Rahm, after all.
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May 27, 2015 23:52
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computer parts posted:Oh no, she's not as charismatic as the most charismatic candidate either party has gotten in the past 35 years. Another way of saying this: if elected she will be the least charismatic president since Nixon.
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Smiling Knight posted:Hey, who knows. A top republican strategist might actually be posting on a comedy forum using a character from a children's fantasy novel as his screen name! We've got Rahm, after all. TBF its a pretty good children's fantasy novel. Tho I thought Mogget was a better sidekick than TDD.
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This is really cool, but I've always liked when a dance goes with a song, so I vote for this to be the official Rick Santorum theme song http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/ae33c0e276/antorum-all-over-town
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TheDisreputableDog posted:So here's the thing. Approximately everybody defends the practice of accepting charitable donations to help poor people in Africa and Asia. Approximately everybody opposes the practice of taking money in exchange for official favors. There is, right now, no serious and credible claim being put forward that the Clintons did any sort of quid pro quo. The ones espoused in this thread are extremely weak (and largely conjectural), and some are laughable (bribing Bill Clinton to undersell the US 2022 case TheDisreputableDog posted:"These people of privilege who live by their own rules never did nothing demonstrably illegal, therefore any criticism must be politically motivated." In light of the other 99 "scandals" that turned out to be overblown, it's not unreasonable to want to see some kind of evidence or at least a credible "theory of the crime". Nintendo Kid posted:And that's the thing, like, he couldn't even be bothered to come up with a Bad Deed, just "look there was money!!". That to me has always been the tell-tale mark of Clintonmania - the inability or unwillingness to articulate exactly what the allegations are, either because they don't exist or because they're super-nutty.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Another way of saying this: if elected she will be the least charismatic president since Nixon. What's broken in your charisma detector that you find Bush 41 charismatic?
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Nintendo Kid posted:What's broken in your charisma detector that you find Bush 41 charismatic? He did vomit on a Japanese Prime Minister once, that has to count for something.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I don't think Hillary is that good a politician. She's not very charismatic and she has a really hard time motivating non-female, non-partisan voters. She couldn't even beat a junior senator for the nomination in 2008, for example. That's a fair enough criticism - she's much more of a policy wonk and, unlike Bill, doesn't seem to be able to distill that into communicating with regular people. I also think her biggest vulnerability is whether she can connect with male voters, especially Hispanic ones. With that said, I'm not sure she's as bad as "generic Democrat." She's decent on policy and foreign affairs. You're right that her biggest problem that she's disliked by half of the country, and has very little chance of changing that. I'm just not sure that really matters given how polarized our politics are now. Also, I assume Rubio is failing the "sane" criterion, because he's both likable and young and haunts my nightmares of 2016.
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Carly-mania - catch it!Talking Points Memo posted:
One commenter compared her to Malory Archer and that seems just about right.
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the shadow toker posted:With that said, I'm not sure she's as bad as "generic Democrat." She's decent on policy and foreign affairs. You're right that her biggest problem that she's disliked by half of the country, and has very little chance of changing that. I'm just not sure that really matters given how polarized our politics are now. By October 2016, any Democratic nominee would be disliked by 45% of the country no matter what. Most of the folks who dislike Hillary now would vote against Jen Ericdem anyhow. quote:She was asked, for instance, about her decision to attend the Clinton Global Initiative last year given reports about foreign donations that went to the Clinton Foundation. Legendary.
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FMguru posted:One commenter compared her to Malory Archer and that seems just about right. Oh wow, that's terrifying.
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Great strategy from the GOP communications team here: associate Bernie with something that everyone hates, ice cream! Meanwhile, in Portsmouth, NH: 
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mlmp08 posted:I think Captain America is well-written and acted and there's a nice subversiveness to him. And he had really solid standalone movies, particularly being buddycop with Black Widow. So broken clock twice a day, etc. He wasn't asked who the best Avenger was, he was asked which Avenger he'd be (and the correct answer is Thor  ).His answer was a character whose view of patriotism is pretty much the exact opposite of his own. It's a very "my favorite band is RATM" answer.
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So, is there any realistic reason at all to think Sanders even makes it past the democratic party? Because a few minutes on google have made a fan-loving-tastic first impression of him for me and also all but convinced me that he's a dead campaign running.
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Evil Fluffy posted:He wasn't asked who the best Avenger was, he was asked which Avenger he'd be (and the correct answer is Thor I'm aware of the irony, it's just that Cpt America is pretty cool. Also Thor is a good choice if you like being a bore. He'd be good for a candidate that disappears for half the race then comes back at the end to help out his buddies from the sidelines.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:Bill Clinton lead the US effort to get World Cup 2022, and during that period his foundation received millions from the actual winners which are at this moment embroiled in a corruption scandal involving millions in bribes. You have to be blinded by partisanship to not find that suspicious. Yeah, in a scandal that is being aggressively prosecuted by the USDOJ in an investigation that has been years in the process. If you think that Bill intentionally took bribes and threw the US's chance while this was going on I don't know what to tell you
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FMguru posted:Carly-mania - catch it! Totally not a gimmick for the GOP. mlmp08 posted:I'm aware of the irony, it's just that Cpt America is pretty cool. Also Thor is a good choice if you like being a bore. He'd be good for a candidate that disappears for half the race then comes back at the end to help out his buddies from the sidelines. You would think the obvious choice for Republican would be Tony Stark... I would say Nick Fury, but he's black in the movies.
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