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Alder posted:Hmm---I feel somewhat conflicted since the majority of my apps were tied to low exp, office, help desk, or entry-level jobs. Obviously, I've refrained from applying to some jobs which I know I won't qualify for yet. Ugh, it's demoralizing to have relatives who keep asking me why I'm unemployed The intent was not to demoralize. By all means, apply for what you're qualified for and don't be scared to stretch it a bit if you have relevant experience. As a general rule, when you are applying to "low exp, office, help desk, or entry-level jobs" you really better have a leg up on the 100 other people that spam applications to all these. This is where things like your polished resume, your networking groups/connections/relatives/friends, LinkedIn, a good recruiter, etc, can all make a huge difference. Don't give up!
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Dark Helmut posted:This is where things like your polished resume, your networking groups/connections/relatives/friends, LinkedIn, a good recruiter, etc, can all make a huge difference. Don't give up! Yes that's something that worries me overall as it feels hopeless just filling out apps and waiting for a reply.
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May 27, 2015 22:48
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May 27, 2015 22:52
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What I did when first trying to even get in touch with recruiters was kind of reverse cold call them on LinkedIn by asking if they'd mind taking a look at my resume. Got a lot of really positive responses this way and it seemed that most of them could appreciate a person just trying to get a foot in the door and at least offered some good advice or referred me to places that were hiring for T1 roles. Some of the recruiters I met this way still keep in touch infrequently which is really cool I think. It's nice to have contacts to hit up when you're ready to look for something new or just need some direction.
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May 27, 2015 23:31
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crunk dork posted:Some of the recruiters I met this way still keep in touch infrequently which is really cool I think. It's nice to have contacts to hit up when you're ready to look for something new or just need some direction. Someone told me that it was a good idea to boost LinkedIn networking skills if I added a bunch of former classmates for vouches but I never really spoke to them before when we were in HS/college. Would it be weird if I added them anyways? Lack of irl contacts makes my profile look like a ghost town atm. Baruch college has a fairly robust STARR search but all those: You're not qualified for this positions is 
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May 27, 2015 23:49
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Spam connect with recruiters, people that went to the same school, group members, literally anyone if you are worried about your profile looking desolate. The LinkedIn thread on BFC has some pretty good info
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May 28, 2015 00:06
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SaltLick posted:Spam connect with recruiters, people that went to the same school, group members, literally anyone if you are worried about your profile looking desolate. The LinkedIn thread on BFC has some pretty good info So many people make the mistake of equating LI to Facebook. It's just not. There is pretty much zero downside to connecting with people and it's understood that you may not be "friends" IRL.
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Dark Helmut posted:So many people make the mistake of equating LI to Facebook. It's just not. There is pretty much zero downside to connecting with people and it's understood that you may not be "friends" IRL. Eh, I don't care to be connected with Dan the Sales Associate at Gamestop and it just looks unprofessional when you know everyone no?
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Negative, connect with everyone. I think that was a good way of putting it - Linkedin isn't Facebook. Connections everywhere. Had an email chain going, and one of the guys stripped everyone but me to highlight the last reply, and said "What a loving idiot" - what the what? We've had like 3 conversations, do you think that because there is a chance that this other person may be wrong, that you should email me that? We're coworkers, not friends, the hell are you thinking?
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Tab8715 posted:Eh, I don't care to be connected with Dan the Sales Associate at Gamestop and it just looks unprofessional when you know everyone no? Agreed. I did follow the LinkedIn thread but at the same time I feel like none of the groups I joined really helped me find jobs other than post linkbait-y articles now and then to my email. In a related note I went to the career center and they're closed until June b-but I need a job now
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 Rep. No idea how long this guy will survive but lets find out.
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May 28, 2015 04:39
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Here's a questions, The  industry is rapidly changing and Network, Virtualization, Storage positions becoming merged into System Administration but DBAs are still left alone. How come? What's so unique?
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They've managed to convince people that their job is something that a sys admin can't do with Books Online and a weekend of study.
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Tab8715 posted:Here's a questions, MC Fruit Stripe posted:They've managed to convince people that their job is something that a sys admin can't do with Books Online and a weekend of study.
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Tab8715 posted:Here's a questions, People have had to broaden their skillsets, sure, but I haven't seen any sysadmins setting up 6800s with IA and MEC for campus connectivity, doing wireless surveys, and configuring 9Ks and VNX to support the DC. That stuff is still very much handled by network personnel. What sysadmins HAVE taken over is managing the entirety of the VM cluster, including the vSwitches, but all that really did was remove the need of sysadmins to submit a ticket to the network staff or log into a physical switch themselves to change switchport settings every time a change was made to the server infrastructure. In larger organizations, I've seen dedicated storage personnel, but smaller deployments don't usually demand such a level of attention so as to require a dedicated person. In those cases, it's much more efficient to let the sysadmins handle it, since it's directly tied into the systems they oversee. e: To answer your question, a lot of DBA positions are basically becoming devops or systems engineering positions at this point. I think the skills needed are still different enough to warrant paying them to drive their 911 Carrera S into work every day to sit around until the developers inevitably break something in the database. psydude fucked around with this message at 13:58 on May 28, 2015 |
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May 28, 2015 13:52
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Tab8715 posted:Eh, No one is saying spam everyone you hear of or read about. Even in a medium-sized market, I only have about 1800 connections in a metro area of a million and it's actually my job to know people. It doesn't look unprofessional to have a few hundred connections, it shows you are getting yourself out there and you aren't a hermit. And when you're looking for a job and you post on LI, that many more people are going to see it. It's a tool to have in your toolbox, along with a good resume, Dice, Indeed, good references, etc. There's a ton of other advantages too, but I haven't ingested my coffee yet. I would check out the LinkedIn thread because they will be better than me about conveying them.
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Tab8715 posted:Here's a questions, Whether or not specialized staff is needed for a given task is always dependent on a bunch of factors, scope, criticality, et al. When it's a 30 person company they probably have 1 sys admin who's doing everything from desktop to databases. I think databases get specialized staff the quickest (outside of maybe desktop support) partially just because helping analysts and finance folks with SQL queries, in addition to improving execution plans, maintaining the database structures for performance and all that quickly becomes a fulltime job and most sysadmins would prefer it not be their full time job.
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Vulture Culture posted:In most organizations big enough to need them, I'm seeing DBAs rapidly being merged together with business analyst positions, since most of the need to interact with SQL in that capacity comes from data warehousing, ERP, and line-of-business reporting perspectives. Most large data stores aren't being handled by relational databases anymore -- those are going through Hadoop, Spark, or Kafka, or if they're application data that needs to scale, they're being dumped into non-relational databases. Our profit sharing app runs in DOS VM on VMware Player running on a Pentium 4 Lenovo XP desktop and uses a FoxPro Database. So there is that. Oh, and it is running a Novell client an only works if like 2 people log in to it after boot. mayodreams fucked around with this message at 15:36 on May 28, 2015 |
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Methanar posted:
You are buying a chassis with one blade? How does the storage work, vSAN or Local or does Dell have some kind of iscsi/nfs target wrangled in there?
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I now have my HR interview scheduled for Monday. I think as with last time, if I don't bomb it then the job is mine. I don't know if an offer happens then or later or what, but that's the 1st, I'm going on vacation on the 7th for a week and soon after that (end of Juneish) I'm expected to open a new store at my current job. So I think that's going to make my current job upset, but there's always a project right around the corner and losing someone is basically never at a "good" time. I also didn't tell them to open 5 stores on the same day when the traveling team is me and one other guy, and the entire IT department is like 20 people counting managers.
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sanchez posted:You are buying a chassis with one blade? How does the storage work, vSAN or Local or does Dell have some kind of iscsi/nfs target wrangled in there? The VRTX chassis supports local storage that can be shared between blades, including sharing a single volume to multiple blades for use by Vmfs as shared storage. It's sort of a ghetto VSAN, though with one blade you obviously don't get the benefit of that.
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sanchez posted:You are buying a chassis with one blade? How does the storage work, vSAN or Local or does Dell have some kind of iscsi/nfs target wrangled in there? It comes with a big built in bay of hard drives that you can put in raid.
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I'm meeting with a recruiter next week. How much should I disclose about my salary? Should I just give a target? My problem is that I get paid way more than the hell desk average in my city, because we are all part time system admins it seems.
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May 28, 2015 17:50
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VRTX is pretty cool, I kind of wish I worked in an environment where I could put them to use.
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I don't want to be assed with poo poo a DBA needs to do, tbh. Doesn't mean I don't administer databases, though.
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May 28, 2015 18:00
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Has anyone heard of Pivot and ITOaaS? My coworker is trying to pitch it to upper management.
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ElGroucho posted:I'm meeting with a recruiter next week. How much should I disclose about my salary? Should I just give a target? I'm in the same boat and I usually just say I don't give out that information. I do tell them what it'll take for me to move from my position and that's all they really want anyway.
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I have the weirdest loving T1 helpdesk job. The first day I wad here I posted about how we didn't have remote access. Now we have remote access, AD admin privileges, and limited Meraki access. We do first-line troubleshooting, but we also make sure T2 isn't dropping the ball on their tickets. I'm in meetings with the director of IT every two weeks influencing policy and procedures, and pretty soon I'm going to be taking over temporarily as lead while my boss is on medical leave. With 4-5 months of experience. I'll probably be able to leverage the gently caress out of this when I go full time at the end of this contract, though.
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Sounds like a good opportunity provided you don't break anything too horribly.
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the spyder posted:Has anyone heard of Pivot and ITOaaS? My coworker is trying to pitch it to upper management. ITOaaS just seems like a new, buzzwordier way to describe an MSP?
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ElGroucho posted:I'm meeting with a recruiter next week. How much should I disclose about my salary? Should I just give a target? If it's an internal recruiter, it depends on your leverage. If you pull in a lot of recruiter attention, you can try to throw out a high number and see who bites on it. If you're a little more limited in your opportunities, it makes sense to let them put out a number at the high end of their budget.
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Sheep posted:Sounds like a good opportunity provided you don't break anything too horribly. Yeah. It's nothing too intimidating, but I'll need to get in the habit of being more proactive instead of sitting reading SA and PowerShell in a month of lunches until tickets come in. If I can also get this JavaScript auto-refresh script working reliably, that would just be icing.
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Vulture Culture posted:If it's a headhunter, give your salary history and your target. They'll have a good idea of how to get you from where you are to where you want to be. Headhunters are usually paid a percentage of your base salary as a commission, so it's in their interest to place you at the absolute highest salary they can expect to get you. They'll let you know if what you want is unrealistic, and if it is realistic, they can give you some coaching on how to cross that gap in the interview. I discuss salary openly and candidly with all my candidates. Meeting with a recruiter is (or should be) the start of a partnership that should hopefully go beyond your current search. It's a trust relationship, and if you're going to start that off by holding out your salary info or being vague/elusive, I'm going to be inclined not to work with you. At the end of the day, I'm presenting you for positions with my clients and I need the match to make sense for both parties. I WANT you to get a raise. It makes everyone happy... I've definitely been put in a bad spot by someone giving me an inflated salary and both the candidate and I lost out. Front end dev said he was making $80K and we put him in at the max salary of $90K for a new position. Target company called to verify his salary and learned he had been making $66K, so not only did they reject him but they dinged me for trying to inflate his requirements to increase my fee. If he had been straight with me and not greedy we would have come up with a strategy to get him there or close to it. Bottom line, as a candidate, if you don't feel you can trust your recruiter with your salary history it's probably time to find a new recruiter or two.
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Dark Helmut posted:Target company called to verify his salary and learned he had been making $66K wait a minute, who did they call to find this out?
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Giving your salary out is a great way to be lowballed and there is no benefit unless you are so in demand that you get to name your price anyway.
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go3 posted:wait a minute, who did they call to find this out? One girl HR shop at his previous employer. I am not a lawyer, but I don't think it's illegal here in VA to verify things like that. I don't think the company was obligated to tell, but they did. The point I'm trying to make is to work with your recruiter and tell them where you want to go (salary or otherwise) and leverage our knowledge of the clients/market to get you there. If I can't get you there, I'm drat sure going to tell you why and we're going to figure out a game plan. It makes zero sense for me to ever lowball a candidate. Your approach with internal recruiters should probably be different, however.
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