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I ment to edit in that it looks terrible and please just give us a loving a1 with a sports pack or something.
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Preoptopus posted:So Audi decided that the US does not need a small sporty city runner like the A1. What we need aparantly is this What the gently caress? Is this a dream? Am I dreaming? Is this a nightmare? What the gently caress is this? Edit: that's the Audi Urban Concept from 2011, which is attached to an unrelated article for some reason.
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May 29, 2015 10:26
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Jesus, that's unforgivably hideous.
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May 29, 2015 10:28
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That is a superbly ugly thing, but it looks like that's an old concept photo attached to a recent article and that (if there is any justice) it won't be produced.
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May 29, 2015 12:47
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I thought the point of concept cars was to be dead sexy and awesome, and you were supposed to be sad instead of relieved when it turns out they weren't going to production in a similar form.
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May 29, 2015 13:34
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The point of concept cars is for a company's best and/or most nepotistic designers to get a chance to jerk off and do whatever the gently caress they want. Sometimes, it gives their engineering team a chance to stretch their legs and try to figure out how to make crazy poo poo work. More often than not, though, the cars are too design-focused to even work properly from an engineering standpoint.
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May 29, 2015 13:46
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If I had copious piles of filthy lucre I'd buy one, dress it up in Spongebob livery (or something similar) and roll around town in it.
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May 29, 2015 13:48
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Preoptopus posted:So Audi decided that the US does not need a small sporty city runner like the A1. What we need aparantly is this So it's a PT Crüser?
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May 29, 2015 16:25
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LeftistMuslimObama posted:So it's a PT Crüser? Das Herumtreiber
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May 29, 2015 18:02
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KillHour posted:The point of concept cars is for a company's best and/or most nepotistic designers to get a chance to jerk off and do whatever the gently caress they want. Sometimes, it gives their engineering team a chance to stretch their legs and try to figure out how to make crazy poo poo work. More often than not, though, the cars are too design-focused to even work properly from an engineering standpoint. In addition, they give anonymous internet randos the ability to say "well, I'm not buying the <PRODUCTION CAR> because it's not as cool as <CONCEPT CAR THAT CANNOT ACTUALLY BE MANUFACTURED>." How many concept cars have actually been produced in a near-identical fashion in the last decade? Is there a point other than a momentary PR blip and long-term consumer/internet flamboaster disappointment?
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May 29, 2015 18:25
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Cocoa Crispies posted:In addition, they give anonymous internet randos the ability to say "well, I'm not buying the <PRODUCTION CAR> because it's not as cool as <CONCEPT CAR THAT CANNOT ACTUALLY BE MANUFACTURED>." Also the related one of some executive saying they're definitely interested in getting this wacky concept that would need a brand new platform into production and then like a year or two later the significantly quieter statement saying "actully no we just said that to mess with our competitors, we got nothing" e.g. Nissan
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May 29, 2015 18:29
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Cocoa Crispies posted:How many concept cars have actually been produced in a near-identical fashion in the last decade? Is there a point other than a momentary PR blip and long-term consumer/internet flamboaster disappointment? The BMW i8 comes to mind, not much else though.
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May 29, 2015 18:37
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Bumming Your Scene posted:Das Herumtreiber Totally forgot about that monstrosity:  Which brings to mind other monstrosities worthy of the horrible AI things thread, from Chevy: The HHRse:  and the Are You SSRious? 
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May 29, 2015 19:09
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Cocoa Crispies posted:How many concept cars have actually been produced in a near-identical fashion in the last decade? Is there a point other than a momentary PR blip and long-term consumer/internet flamboaster disappointment? Chevy Camaro I suppose. The concept in the Transformers movie looked pretty cool but obviously they'd have to completely alter the dimensions for production or you'd end up making a car with terrible visibility. hurrrr
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May 29, 2015 19:11
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Cocoa Crispies posted:How many concept cars have actually been produced in a near-identical fashion in the last decade? Is there a point other than a momentary PR blip and long-term consumer/internet flamboaster disappointment? Basically every Honda concept because Honda's concepts are just the production cars with bigger wheels and fancier lights. 
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May 29, 2015 20:03
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So if anyone ever wondered why BMW wants to make a bajilion different ugly SUVs and other stupid poo poo, well, here's why: Adding a new model to the lineup doesn't necessarily cannibalize anything if there's some differentiation left, and gets a shitload of sales from people who really want a more expensive Q5/Touareg/etc and would otherwise settle for one.
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mobby_6kl posted:So if anyone ever wondered why BMW wants to make a bajilion different ugly SUVs and other stupid poo poo, well, here's why: Yeah, it's where all the money is, along with making 500 versions of the 3 series in BMW's case. Except the 3 series wagon, which is outsold by the  X1 by a 5:1 margin.
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May 29, 2015 21:33
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At least BMW has the 2 series! I wonder how long it'll take them to ruin it.
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May 29, 2015 21:39
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Wheeee posted:At least BMW has the 2 series! They're way ahead of you on that one...
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May 29, 2015 21:43
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This is bizarre since it can't possibly be based on the same chassis as the 228/235, being FWD and all, can it?
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May 29, 2015 21:58
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Guinness posted:This is bizarre since it can't possibly be based on the same chassis as the 228/235, being FWD and all, can it? They've decided to go full surrealism with their naming, since they're also planning a 4 door version of the current RWD 2 series, AND a full-on M2 to go with the M235i. So the 2 series will cover the whole range from "pretty great RWD sports sedan" to "3 cylinder FWD shitbox."
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May 29, 2015 22:01
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Sure, but the 2GC and M2 would presumably be based on the same chassis as the RWD coupes. But this active tourer shitbox thing is probably based on the forthcoming FWD 1-series chassis I imagine. I guess BMW threw naming conventions to the wind years ago so they're just going to do whatever. And status-seeking soccer moms are going to buy the poo poo out of it. Maybe I'll just have to keep my E46 forever. 
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May 29, 2015 22:03
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mobby_6kl posted:So if anyone ever wondered why BMW wants to make a bajilion different ugly SUVs and other stupid poo poo, well, here's why: Porsche sells more Macans than two-doors. They're an SUV company that sells sports cars to keep up an image.
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May 29, 2015 22:12
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Nobody needs what i don't need. Nobody who wants an elevated seating position or suspension capable of absorbing potholes deserves a vehicle built by my precious racecar company. Vehicles i don't need being built by the company that built my shitbox 20 years ago make my shitbox worse for reasons. Also, pick-up trucks need to be carrying a load at all times to deserve their place on my roads, so you better find yourself a backhaul from the landfill you wasteful pleb. 
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May 29, 2015 22:35
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Neptr posted:Porsche sells more Macans than two-doors. They're an SUV company that sells sports cars to keep up an image. More like subsidizing awesome street and even more awesome race cars by selling SUVs to idiots. Enzo would approve of their current practices much more than what Ferrari has turned into.
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BraveUlysses posted:More like subsidizing awesome street and even more awesome race cars by selling SUVs to idiots. Enzo would approve of their current practices much more than what Ferrari has turned into. Yeah, the sports cars they make are still awesome, so Porsche fleecing pretentious SUV buyers to stay in business is all good.
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What does everyone think of the new smart car? Am I absolutely retarded in thinking it seems pretty neat? I sat in one at the NY auto show and the interior was pretty drat good, and it has an actual, real deal 5 speed manual. From what I hear it's just a shorty Renault twingo, and has a turbo 3cyl.   Can't see many downsides for one of these in the city, especially with a $100-150/month lease...
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May 30, 2015 00:25
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It really can't be any worse than the old one. If the 0.9 liter is anywhere near as capable as ford's 1.0, it could be a fun little car.
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sean10mm posted:Yeah, the sports cars they make are still awesome, so Porsche fleecing pretentious SUV buyers to stay in business is all good. They aren't only fleecing the SUV buyers. Pretty sure all of their cars have huge profit margins for them. I seriously doubt the cigarette lighter with a Porsche logo on it costs them $499.99.
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fknlo posted:They aren't only fleecing the SUV buyers. Pretty sure all of their cars have huge profit margins for them. I seriously doubt the cigarette lighter with a Porsche logo on it costs them $499.99. http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1090892_porsche-makes-more-money-per-car-than-audi-bentley-or-lamborghini It's a big part of the reason I have no plans of purchasing a Porsche. Lamborghini's are expensive because a seamstress came in to work every day for a month and did nothing except make sure the stitches on your seats and dashboard all match perfectly. McLaren's are expensive because they have to pay for the 5000 hours of wind tunnel testing required to design it. Porsche's are expensive because they say "Porsche" on them.
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Voltage posted:What does everyone think of the new smart car? Am I absolutely retarded in thinking it seems pretty neat? I sat in one at the NY auto show and the interior was pretty drat good, and it has an actual, real deal 5 speed manual. From what I hear it's just a shorty Renault twingo, and has a turbo 3cyl. $99/mo lease with 0 down? Awesome. A great commuter car option if that's a decent amount of miles (12k/yr).
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KillHour posted:http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1090892_porsche-makes-more-money-per-car-than-audi-bentley-or-lamborghini Most of that is probably due to volume + their bestselling car being a rebadged Volkswagen. Lamborginis are expensive because of tiny volumes with wacky designs (and also just because - I'm sure the margins on lamborghini are quite healthy) and also of course they don't have a factory racing team.
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Voltage posted:What does everyone think of the new smart car? Am I absolutely retarded in thinking it seems pretty neat? I sat in one at the NY auto show and the interior was pretty drat good, and it has an actual, real deal 5 speed manual. From what I hear it's just a shorty Renault twingo, and has a turbo 3cyl. Holy poo poo, is that a manual in a smart car?! gently caress me, that's about 17 years late. I heard the main gripe with that car is the utterly poo poo autotragic in it. I wonder what the fuel economy will be when they sell them stateside.
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VW only sells a few hundred Touaregs per month in the US, the Cayenne far outsells it. In other markets anecdotally I also see far more Cayennes than Touaregs on the road. It's really more fair to say that the Touareg is a rebadged Cayenne than vice versa, sold to people who don't need the prestige badge but still want all the shoddy build quality and terrible engineering with even more cost optimized parts. If the Touareg was axed tomorrow no one would even notice.
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May 30, 2015 03:43
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Hyundai will probably build a Rampage. http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2015/05/hyundai-chances-good-it-will-make-pickup.html
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that's not a rampage, that's a ridgeline. Which is funny, because the next ridgeline is supposed to look like a tacoma, while the tacoma completely aped the front grille of a hyundai. Just one big circle jerk of "i like this, i'm taking it."
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May 30, 2015 04:04
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We own a ridgeline and it's p. good. Holds about a half a yard of dirt without any problems. and also our kayaks 'cuz we're sporty white people.
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May 30, 2015 04:18
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If it's more El Camnino/Ranchero sure that could be pretty sweet. If it's lifted and covered in body cladding like you know they are going to welp
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May 30, 2015 04:26
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You'd figure they'd be better off trying the minivan market again first. What exactly was wrong with the Entourage that caused it to sell so poorly?
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TKIY posted:You'd figure they'd be better off trying the minivan market again first. What exactly was wrong with the Entourage that caused it to sell so poorly? Id guess it's because the whole minivan market was shrinking really bad I was always sort of sad the Kia Borrego never took off due to bad t8ming.
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