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That car chase is amazing and awesome, reckless car chase =/= moral upholding of a character.
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The French Connection's car chase is great, but decades of movies trying to one up it have diluted the impact. I'd imagine audiences in 1971 were blown away by it since it was like nothing they've seen before. Don't even try to watch an older movie as an immediate comparison to anything current. It's pointless. It's beyond obvious that a 1971 film is going to be different from a 2015 film. If you're watching a movie you've never seen before, regardless of when it was released, it's just as new of a movie to you as something released last week.
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May 29, 2015 04:48
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Everblight posted:I was just trying to understand why a bad dumb chase scene had achieved near-mythic status and universal praise when it was
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May 29, 2015 05:13
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at best, especially viewed through the lens of a movie designed to showcase how lovely everyone was. I guess my answer is "retroactive hagiography" so thanks Magic Hate Ball for answering my question.
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Everblight posted:Exorcist had a similar stupid, abrupt ending so I guess Did you watch that cut that ends with those two guys talking about random movies or whatever? Cause otherwise I don't know where you're coming from here at all.
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May 29, 2015 09:59
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only with William Friedkin's face?
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Egbert Souse posted:The French Connection's car chase is great, but decades of movies trying to one up it have diluted the impact. I'd imagine audiences in 1971 were blown away by it since it was like nothing they've seen before. I wanted to say something similar. Any movie you see for the first time is new.
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May 29, 2015 14:23
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Egbert Souse posted:The French Connection's car chase is great, but decades of movies trying to one up it have diluted the impact. I'd imagine audiences in 1971 were blown away by it since it was like nothing they've seen before. I feel like these points do work against each other a bit. Of course it's great to approach an older movie as being "new to you," but that can mean being mindful that it's an older movie and other movies have built on what the older one has done. If one were to watch The Matrix for the first time sufficiently far afters its release, they'd want to keep in mind that it wasn't borrowing "bullet time" from Charlie's Angels or whatever.
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May 29, 2015 16:55
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Egbert Souse posted:The French Connection's car chase is great, but decades of movies trying to one up it have diluted the impact. I'd imagine audiences in 1971 were blown away by it since it was like nothing they've seen before.
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Everblight posted:Are you saying audiences had never seen a chase sequence before? Because ignoring the entirety of the 50s and westerns/stagecoach robberies, there is a chase sequence in the old testament. I'm pretty sure he meant in terms of a contemporary/urban setting, and based on your examples his point kind of stands.
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May 29, 2015 17:55
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One time in I think the Iliad, Hercules chases after Paris in a sweet camaro
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Everblight posted:Are you saying audiences had never seen a chase sequence before? Because ignoring the entirety of the 50s and westerns/stagecoach robberies, there is a chase sequence in the old testament. Car chases were usually second unit and rear projection for decades. There's Bullitt, but it's mostly on blocked off roads with few pedestrians. Great scene, still. Nothing as visceral or terrifying as Friedkin's film. I do think the greatest car chase in film is the end of The Blues Brothers, which actively parodies The French Connection's chase.
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I have a blind sister that wants me to take her to the movies for her birthday. Is there anything good out right now that she might like? She's 24 and likes any good movie that she can follow/understand. I've heard that Mad Max has about 3 minutes of dialogue. So I guess that would not be a good choice.
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Super Ninja Fish posted:I have a blind sister that wants me to take her to the movies for her birthday. Is there anything good out right now that she might like? She's 24 and likes any good movie that she can follow/understand. I saw that in additional to closed captioning, they also were showing Mad Max at my local theater (a Regal) in something that I am remembering as like a "Describe-surround" where you could get a headset and I guess someone would describe the events on the screen for you? Is that something anyone has tried? How would that even work?
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Super Ninja Fish posted:I have a blind sister that wants me to take her to the movies for her birthday. Is there anything good out right now that she might like? She's 24 and likes any good movie that she can follow/understand. Ex Machina is very dialogue-driven. E: come to think of it, I dunno if that is still in theatres.
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Super Ninja Fish posted:I have a blind sister that wants me to take her to the movies for her birthday. Is there anything good out right now that she might like? She's 24 and likes any good movie that she can follow/understand. Well this is only somewhat related, as it's not a movie in theaters... But the Daredevil series on Netflix, about a blind super-hero, really went all-out on descriptive audio for the visually impaired. So while that might not be something you can do for her birthday, I wanted to make you and her aware that it exists.
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Snak posted:Well this is only somewhat related, as it's not a movie in theaters... But the Daredevil series on Netflix, about a blind super-hero, really went all-out on descriptive audio for the visually impaired. So while that might not be something you can do for her birthday, I wanted to make you and her aware that it exists. Thanks, of course, any suggestion is appreciated. That's very related. I'll tell her to check it out. I never knew about that. There's a website with hundreds of audio description movies for free called blindmoviemart. Just about every Quintin Tarantino movie. Indiana Jones. Back to the Future. Jurassic Park. Entire seasons of Simpsons, Breaking Bad, and Game of Thrones. I've shown her them all. I can even put on a movie for her while I'm driving her somewhere. It's odd that even the blind prefers TV to books. At least in this case. I would never have expected that. You wouldn't believe how well something like Married with Children works since they go nowhere and there's basically no action. She doesn't even need description for it.
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Super Ninja Fish posted:I have a blind sister that wants me to take her to the movies for her birthday. Is there anything good out right now that she might like? She's 24 and likes any good movie that she can follow/understand. I haven't seen it, so I'm not positive, but Pitch Perfect 2 has pretty good reviews and I would imagine a comedy about a capella singers wouldn't be too hard to follow, she'll likely miss some slapstick, but that's the only problem I could imagine.
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Super Ninja Fish posted:You wouldn't believe how well something like Married with Children works since they go nowhere and there's basically no action. She doesn't even need description for it. All those three-camera sitcoms were pretty much just stage plays. I remember putting episodes of Frasier on audiotape and listening to them in the car during my commute to school.
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Super Ninja Fish posted:I have a blind sister that wants me to take her to the movies for her birthday. Is there anything good out right now that she might like? She's 24 and likes any good movie that she can follow/understand. I'm kinda in the opposite camp - I'm deaf and they don't show Mad Max without subtitles. Does it really only have 3 minutes of dialogue? I didn't miss much watching Mad Max 2 without subtitles as a kid but Mad Max 3 had some catchphrases that were lost on me because of that. Also also I'm jealous that you hearing people can just listen to sitcoms. I always have to pay full attention to the telly. 
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Zwille posted:I'm kinda in the opposite camp - I'm deaf and they don't show Mad Max without subtitles. Does it really only have 3 minutes of dialogue? I didn't miss much watching Mad Max 2 without subtitles as a kid but Mad Max 3 had some catchphrases that were lost on me because of that. If you could follow Road Warrior, you'll have zero problems with Fury Road.
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Everblight posted:...you could get a headset and I guess someone would describe the events on the screen for you? Is that something anyone has tried? How would that even work? You put on headphones and a narrator details what is happening on the screen. I haven't tried that (no need to) but I have listened to some of those tracks that were on DVDs I rented. The narrator just goes into varying levels of detail at various points when important things or settings are being shown.
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Zwille posted:Also also I'm jealous that you hearing people can just listen to sitcoms. I always have to pay full attention to the telly. Well in the case of sitcoms, not much is lost anyway!!!! *knowing look, pause for laughtrack*
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What's a laugh track kidding!
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   But it must be very strange with those pauses. I've watched a couple clips on youtube where the laughs've been been cut out, and it's just so agonizingly slow. How can you stand it without at least the dumb sound of forced laughter dragging away your intention? It's literally just people staring at each other for seconds. E: To be fair I did enjoy Frasier though I haven't watched it in years.
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What movie is the dialogue "There is violence of course, but not by me or anyone I employee" in the Joe Carnahan Daredevil sizzle reel from? Sounds like DeNiro, but I can't tell. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLfXo_gSd3I
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Egbert Souse posted:I do think the greatest car chase in film is the end of The Blues Brothers, which actively parodies The French Connection's chase. I don't even like The Blues Brothers but I love that car chase.
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Zwille posted:I'm kinda in the opposite camp - I'm deaf and they don't show Mad Max without subtitles. Does it really only have 3 minutes of dialogue? I didn't miss much watching Mad Max 2 without subtitles as a kid but Mad Max 3 had some catchphrases that were lost on me because of that. Yeah you'd be totally fine, maybe use your phone to glance at a Wikipedia plot synopsis if you're lost at any point.
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Miller's explicitly said his goal was to make a movie that worked as a silent film, so you should be good.
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The only part that I think wouldn't be communicated visually is the bog being what became of The Green Place, but the fact that it's gone would be clear enough. Otherwise, you'd miss some memes like "MEDIOCRE," but the plot, action, and characters should all make sense.
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In Inglorious Bastards, why isn't Stieglitz recognized in the tavern scene?
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socketwrencher posted:In Inglorious Bastards, why isn't Stieglitz recognized in the tavern scene? You ask this in spite of the legendary goon faceblindness? The other people in the tavern may have seen him before, but probs only in newsprint. There's been no film of him, no real life encounter. I doubt I'd recognize some dude who'd been in a passport-sized photo in a newspaper, no matter what he'd done did.
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Snapchat A Titty posted:You ask this in spite of the legendary goon faceblindness? Sorry- I was thinking of Major Hellstrom, the head of the Gestapo. Seems like he would have more than a passing interest in Stieglitz, but maybe not.
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socketwrencher posted:Sorry- I was thinking of Major Hellstrom, the head of the Gestapo. Seems like he would have more than a passing interest in Stieglitz, but maybe not. Ohh ok the standoff dude was just like a lokalvereinsoffizier, not the head. unless i seriously misremember
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Snapchat A Titty posted:Ohh ok the standoff dude was just like a lokalvereinsoffizier, not the head. unless i seriously misremember It's this guy:
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Yeah I think that guy was just a local SS guy who called Fassbinders bluff. Also the Offiziersmörder has a playing card stuck on his forehead so he's less recognizable. Also: Bloody good show, screenshotwise, so to speak.
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morestuff posted:See also Ha, awesome. The whole buildup prior to the bullets flying is wondrous.
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Snapchat A Titty posted:Yeah I think that guy was just a local SS guy who called Fassbinders bluff. Also the Offiziersmörder has a playing card stuck on his forehead so he's less recognizable. I thought it was the same guy who met with Shoshana and Goebbels:
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socketwrencher posted:I thought it was the same guy who met with Shoshana and Goebbels: That is def. the same guy in that pic, lighting the cig. I guess I've misremembered or something.
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