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Arquinsiel posted:Also: SLEEPY BRAIN REMEMBERED! Not the article I found, but the series of talks that it was based on (I think): http://carta.anthropogeny.org/events/domestication-and-human-evolution TL;DR: is that we domesticated ourselves. I went immediately to the public abstracts and everything made way more sense, both in evidence suggested and the time frames discussed. Changes happening in tens to hundreds of thousands of years fit physical evolution better. Domestication is a strange thing.
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bewbies posted:I assume we're talking about the USAAF: 18 was the typical number, that didn't vary much. Thank you! Yeah, it was USAAF. To show my appreciate here is a fun song about the B-24 I found in my grandfather's things recently:   quote:The B Dash Two Four Googling it says it was sung to this tune: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_yfmKMK4mo
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T___A posted:Well I've ordered Medieval Warfare: A History so I think I'm already going pretty deep. You're only doing slightly more than scratching the surface, my friend. If you want to go pretty deep, articles are where you need to go. Pick yourself up a copy of this bad boy: http://www.ashgate.com/default.aspx?page=637&calcTitle=1&isbn=9780754625155&lang=cy-GB or maybe Anglo-Norman Warfare (ed. M. Strickland). R. Allen Brown's article on Hastings is really, really good. Then join the Society for Medieval Military History and order the JMMH and you will be fully assimilated into the medieval milhist hivemind. Once you have a fairly good grounding in the basics you can definitely pick up some primary sources, if you want. Though I forgot it before, Philippe Contamine's War in the Middle Ages is a pretty good place to start. Not always agreeable but more cohesive (and accurate for my period, IMO) than the volume edited by Keen.
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mlmp08 posted:The anthropologist who rather controversially married a Yanomami teen took her back to the states for a while. She flipped out and thought a Jeep starting was a living animal and hid in the bushes. She also didn't understand mirrors and was prone to wandering naked. She has since returned to her village. The family of Russian starovyertsi discovered by Russian surveyors died several yers after their discovery due to seemingly banal diseases. Interaction between separate groups can be unpredictable to say the least, even if the separation is not very long (I assume it's due to viral disease mutations).
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I just made an edit to Wikipedia. Am I supposed to feel dirty?
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P-Mack posted:I just made an edit to Wikipedia. Am I supposed to feel dirty? Did you do it to support your argument in these here forums? That's totally legit.
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Kaal posted:*Disease is an interesting aspect to all this, but also one that gets rather exaggerated in these sorts of conversations. The European contact with the Americas gets rather played up as being the natural result of any contact between two disassociated peoples, but that is pretty problematic. The European crews did transmit heavy duty diseases to the vulnerable Native American populations, but a big part of that was how generally sick and diseased Europe was at the time. If a few hundred modern westerners visited the pre-contact Americas, they'd cause some problems but not to nearly the same extent as those European sailors. We don't carry smallpox, scarlet fever, typhus, or the measles. The biggest concerns would be influenza and chicken pox, and certainly that would be an issue and could cause deaths, but wouldn't result in the kind of world-ending plagues that were the result of European contact in the Americas. Conversely, if some of those diseased sailors sailed into modern-day New York and started walking around, we'd have a pretty tough time of it until we could get enough vaccines deployed. Unfortunately it's not true that the modern era has lessened the risk of pandemic among newly contacted people. For example after the Zo'é people of Brazil were contacted in 1987 a quarter of their population died over the next five years. The pandemic was caused by diseases like the flu and malaria, spread not only by the missionaries who contacted them but also by changes in the Zo'é's behavior that put them at greater risk. The decline in their population only reversed after the expulsion of the missionaries and the introduction of strict controls on who could come into direct contact. 25% of the population dying in five years may not be as bad as the worst pandemics to hit hit the new world, but remember the plagues never really stop, there's a new flu every year, and modern transportation networks are much more effective at moving them around.
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Wow, when I asked that question, I thought it would come down to an argument of how much killing could be done with a few assault rifles and how well legionaries could scrounge for supplies in the present day. I never expected the debate about crossing the road. Although I suppose the Romans have had trouble dealing with cavalry before, and a wall of shields and spears would be even less effective against unfeeling hunks of metal doing 60.
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Their camp would be bothered by tweakers on the first night, but it's likely their watch guards would gently caress up the skinny white rear end in a top hat who tried to steal their eagle. There's a good chance they'd find familiarity in stuff like cathedrals and stadiums. Roads though? I'm still saying they'll lose some men to tires before they get the hang of it. People get hit regularly in the US and everyone knows to look both ways, it's just that you've got all manner of view-obstructing poo poo like hedges, fences, parked cars in the way combined with an expectation that no clip-clop of hooves=clear road and just stroll across. They are used to dealing with horse transportation, where the horse will likely just avoid them. Even if they looked at a car and said "oh, that's like a horse cart" they're still not prepared for speeds of 55 mph or braking distance or anything like that. Never mind the prospect of a driver being so focused on what the gently caress these eagle banners are doing along the side of the road that they don't see the men walking in front of their car. e: though it would be amazing to see what a semi would do to a hastily-formed testudo formation.
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dead mercenary  http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/tales-from-the-crypt-the-mystery-of-germany-s-aristocratic-mummies-a-701198.html A lot of important people embalmed their dead (Pappenheim was embalmed the night after he died on the main dining table of the Pleissenburg castle in Leipzig) but I didn't know about crypt ventilation, that's pretty cool ed: 
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Tell me more about armored trains. I'm a militant-minded savant, please.
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100 Years Ago More fun and games from around the British Empire, as religious riots break out on the streets of Kandy in Sri Lanka. The Grand Old Duke of Italy marches his men to the top of a hill, but they end the day neither up nor down. General Nixon is still trying to get someone to sign off on his summer holiday to Baghdad, Sir John French gives the next hundred years' worth of Anglocentric war historians an excuse to completely ignore the next few months, and General Allenby takes time out from his busy schedule of donkey walloping to hawk cigarettes in today's newspaper.
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Frostwerks posted:Tell me more about armored trains. I'm a militant-minded savant, please. Armored trains are awesome! I know they were most heavily used during the Russian Civil war, with scattered minor use in WW2, one of the Bosnian conflicts, the Boer conflict, Churchill's Egyptian adventure, and probably sometime in Africa. http://warfarehistorian.blogspot.com/2013/12/odd-fighting-units-of-world-history.html I'm having trouble finding information about it, but the Czech legion used Armored trains to pretty much control everything east of the Urals during the Russian Civil war. Hopefully someone else has the time to dig up stuff on this rather obscure topic.
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Awww, he was buried with his boots on  .And by that, he must have been really liked.
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SeanBeansShako posted:Awww, he was buried with his boots on Alternatively, his foot odour was the stuff of legends.
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Hypha posted:Alternatively, his foot odour was the stuff of legends. Or he just had really freaky looking feet.
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HEY GAL posted:dead mercenary why did i have to look at this while i was eating beef jerky
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Saint Celestine posted:Armored trains are awesome! They certainly go back to at least the American Civil War. Also, Lee is often credited with first mounting (and firing) a large artillery piece on a train car during the seven days. Googling found this: http://www.firstmdus.net/Rail%20cars.htm There is even a quote!: Robert E. Lee posted:Proposed by Gen Robert E. Lee to Col J. Gorgas, Chief of Ordnance, CSA, June 5, 1862.
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khy posted:I like military fantasy books where a person or persons from the future/present is transported into the past or placed within an environment where their future weapons don't work so they train the locals in firearm tactics and poo poo. HEY GAL posted:If their future weapons don't work, the tactics based on them might not either xthetenth posted:Shh, the author doesn't know that. It might not work if they know that. If you haven't heard of them before, I strongly would recommend that you guys look into David Weber books. Specifically : 1) Safehold series. 2) Empire of Man series. 3) The final book in the Dahak trilogy. In 1 and 3 it's about future societies which have been regressed back to pre-industrial era levels of technology. Then when future people show up they have to slowly reintroduce people to things like rifles and artillery and then TRAIN the armies to use them and develop tactics to go with the weapons. Safehold especially is fun as it starts out with galley-level tech and they have to re-learn how to properly use cannon and suddenly the galleon becomes king of the waves, then they start to re-learn rifles and artillery while their enemies are using pikes and smoothbores and then they learn guerrilla tactics and all kinds of fun stuff. In 2 it's about a bunch of space marines (Not WH40K) who get stranded on an alien planet that is, once again, pre-industrial era tech level. They have to cross the planet and kind of have to go native sort of and they teach the locals how to fight and so on and so forth. I like the books and the author quite a lot.
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If guys with matchlocks and crossbows getting owned by rifled artillery is your thing, just wait. I've got you covered.
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P-Mack posted:If guys with matchlocks and crossbows getting owned by rifled artillery is your thing, just wait. I've got you covered. The spirit of Chinese Gordon runs through me.
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WW2 Data Since I missed Monday's Japanese update, I figure I should post the two remaining 20mm ammo updates together. Now that these two are done we can move on to the more heavy cannon stuff!
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Panzeh posted:The spirit of Chinese Gordon runs through me. Just don't wait around for anyone to come help you out man. God ain't coming.
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Frostwerks posted:Tell me more about armored trains. I'm a militant-minded savant, please. The Slovaks made use of three armored trains during the Slovak National Uprising in 1944. They were made using civilian wagon platforms with armored superstructure - and they proved themselves somewhat successful. However, the success was made possible mainly by the prevalence of railway tunnels in Slovakian Tatras (part of the Carpathians) which allowed the trains to hide from air attacks. Ultimately the trains, which had been used mostly as stationary batteries supporting other troops, accrued too much damage, and had to be abandoned. Here's a picture of a reconstructed Slovak armored train: 
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Murgos posted:They certainly go back to at least the American Civil War. Also, Lee is often credited with first mounting (and firing) a large artillery piece on a train car during the seven days.  The best you tended to get during the ACW was a leading car loaded with artillery and metal covering the walls, like so: This is opposed to the all-metal specifically-made rail-dreadnoughts that showed up in the 1910s-1930s. By the '40s and WWII, as steinrokkan points out, even the super-armored ones started drastically falling in usefulness, as both land-based artillery and air attacks become increasingly accurate at a distance, and trains can't really sidestep, so they tended to get blown up a lot.
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HEY GAL posted:dead mercenary Is the bit about zombies true? quote:Whatever the answer, superstition undoubtedly played a role. Bereaved families often sealed the coffins of their departed loved ones to prevent the dead rising up. There was fear that zombies could climb out of their crypts and attack the living.
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How thoroughly did they seal the coffins? It's well documented that fear of vampirism was widespread in some communities, but I don't think it ever played a statistically significant role.
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House Louse posted:Is the bit about zombies true?
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HEY GAL posted:I've never heard it from Germany lol you never heard about vampires?
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Someone sperg out about the Czech legion and their armored trains. They ran a couple of em up and down the trans siberian railway during the Russian Civil war and basically 50,000 men controlled 2/3rd of Russia.* *most of it uninhabited, but still.
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steinrokkan posted:you never heard about vampires? Edit: I was, this was totally a thing. HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 00:03 on May 29, 2015 |
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I've got a question about mounted combat--how did cavalry soldiers train to fire and reload their Winchester rifles while on horseback? Was/ is there a specific method(s)to do so? It looks incredibly difficult and I've always wondered why when I used to watch Westerns as a kid with my Dad.
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Kinda OT, but wasn't the vampire myth popularized by the church to discredit Bogomil burial rites? Heard this years ago, never read up on it.
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Frostwerks posted:Tell me more about armored trains. I'm a militant-minded savant, please. Poland used old tanks converted to armoured draisins in 1939 for reconnaissance purposes and as support for the actual armoured trains.
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100 Years Ago The Italian Army marches casually into Cortina, a Bersaglieri colonel has rather a trying time of things, Bulgaria gets its offer from the Entente, Lt-Cmdr Spicer-Simson picks some highly unusual names for his gunboats, riots continue in Kandy, Kenneth Best is starting to worry, and Louis Barthas shares some home truths about rats. Oh, and the newspaper is advertising hose, but not to go on the legs of ladies.
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Benny the Snake posted:I've got a question about mounted combat--how did cavalry soldiers train to fire and reload their Winchester rifles while on horseback? Was/ is there a specific method(s)to do so? It looks incredibly difficult and I've always wondered why when I used to watch Westerns as a kid with my Dad. First off, most cavalry combat wasn't done on horseback by the time you get to the American Civil War. Horses are really big targets and react poorly to bullets. It was far, far more common for cavalry to be employed similar to how we use helicopter-lifted light infantry today: you ride the horse around when you're not in combat, giving you amazing mobility and speed compared to foot infantry, then dismount when you get to the fight. Like most highly mobile light infantry the general idea is that they can go places that are inaccessible to the main army, and having a few lightly armed men in an area is far better than no men. Same deal once you get to the various conflicts with the Plains Indians - a horse can cover a poo poo load more territory in a much shorter time than a man on foot and you really don't need a full field army to subdue a bunch of nomads. Second, most cavalry would be armed with single shot breechloaders well into the 1870s. Custers men, for example, were armed mostly with carbine length trapdoor Springfields. In the instances where they did engage on combat from horseback, it was pretty much all about pistols. Unless you're a high skilled rider (like most of the trick riders you see in old westerns) you really need to keep a hand on the reins - dropping the reins and loosing control of them entirely in combat would be a bad thing. Using a pistol you can keep one hand on the reins and defend yourself with the other. As for reloading, they pretty much didn't. You know the popular image of the cavalryman or cowboy with twin pistols on his hips? That's not so he can go at it with both hands, that's because reloading on horseback is a pain in the rear end (doubly so if someone is trying to kill you and even worse if it's a cap and ball revolver) and twelve shots are better than six.
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Any advice for setting up blogs? I'm trying to rationalise out my fascism posts in to blog posts so I can expand them out and link to them instead of old posts.
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