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its a factor the same way that putting points into your Call Of Duty Guy is a factor i guess

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Can't you just call it an action rpg? Also levels are totally a factor in skyrim, don't be stupid ptarget.

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beating dark souls at level 1 is very doable. cant really say the same for a final fantasy game

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you can't call it a roleplaying game because you arent playing the role of your character, you are playing the role of someone with the reflexes to do the sdtuff that you do in the game. again, it doesnt really make sense that a 90 year old wizard would be able to 360 NoScope Lightning Bolt a guy and then turn around and block a greatsword with his shield

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Final fantasy has way too much to do with numbers for me to be comfortable with it.

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Pro Target posted:

you can't call it a roleplaying game because you arent playing the role of your character, you are playing the role of someone with the reflexes to do the sdtuff that you do in the game. again, it doesnt really make sense that a 90 year old wizard would be able to 360 NoScope Lightning Bolt a guy and then turn around and block a greatsword with his shield

It does if you want the game to be fun.

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drilldo squirt posted:

It does if you want the game to be fun.

then you should acll the game what it is, an action game

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It's a roll playing game with action in it. You're playing a roll, fool, the hero.

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by Fluffdaddy
I define an RPG by having control over the story and having decent writing not whether the combat is strategy or action

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by Fluffdaddy

drilldo squirt posted:

roll playing game

4e player spotted

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Pomp posted:

I define an RPG by having control over the story and having decent writing not whether the combat is strategy or action

this is basically any singleplayer game at this point

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I define a roleplaying game as a game where you play the role of your character.

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muscle wizards can no scope lightning bolt and punch holes through people which makes them superior to nerd wizards

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Chill la Chill posted:

muscle wizards can no scope lightning bolt and punch holes through people which makes them superior to nerd wizards

THis is what makes skyim top tier.

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Pro Target posted:

I define a roleplaying game as a game where you play the role of your character.

You play the role of a hero dude.

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drilldo squirt posted:

THis is what makes skyim top tier.

yeah, that and the good design decision to get rid of the extra layer of attribute points that most paper RPGs haven't realized yet

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Jrpgs are trash for idiots willing to put in the time to learn their retarded systems.

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Note: smt4 and pokemon are exceptions.

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Pro Target posted:

this is basically any singleplayer game at this point

Do you actually not understand the difference between playing through a story and a game where you make choices that impact that story and a bunch of smaller stories

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drilldo squirt posted:

Jrpgs are trash for idiots willing to put in the time to learn their retarded systems.

actually, the best rpgs are older western rpgs, such as the gold box d&d games

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Pomp posted:

Do you actually not understand the difference between playing through a story and a game where you make choices that impact that story and a bunch of smaller stories

yes, but neither of those things make it an rpg

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by Fluffdaddy
This is like a bizarro "4e is a roll playing game" argument

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Yeah. its hosed up that im using the radical definition for roleplaying game of "playing the role of your character"

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by Fluffdaddy

drilldo squirt posted:

Jrpgs are trash for idiots willing to put in the time to learn their retarded systems.

drilldo squirt posted:

Note: smt and pokemon are exceptions.

Ff12 is good too :evilbuddy:

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Pro Target posted:

actually, the best rpgs are older western rpgs, such as the gold box d&d games

I like baldur's gate, I don't know if that's what you mean but if so I agree.

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by Fluffdaddy

Pro Target posted:

Yeah. its hosed up that im using the radical definition for roleplaying game of "playing the role of your character"

You could make a lot of pen and paper forums legit screaming mad with these posts. Please do that and post the results

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If you like baldur's gate you will like pillars of eternity, which is really good.

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drilldo squirt posted:

I like baldur's gate, I don't know if that's what you mean but if so I agree.

Gold box games were the first person party based dungeon crawls, like legend of grimrock was inspired by

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Pomp posted:

This is like a bizarro "4e is a roll playing game" argument

the best part about those were people whining about MMOs and tabletop miniatures when D&D was always that

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drilldo squirt posted:

I like baldur's gate, I don't know if that's what you mean but if so I agree.

i like baldurs gate, though im not a huge fan of realtime w/ pause since it sacrifices whats good about realtime and turn based

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Chill la Chill posted:

the best part about those were people whining about MMOs and tabletop miniatures when D&D was always that

I like the people who get real upset about non-spellcasters being worthwhile past level 10

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I kind of feel it gives you the best of both since actions happens in real time and you get to plan your stuff out.

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by Fluffdaddy
It was really obvious it was some nerd superiority complex about athletes

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drilldo squirt posted:

I kind of feel it gives you the best of both since actions happens in real time and you get to plan your stuff out.

the planning is imprecise and unpredictable and the start-and-stop rhythm ruins the visceral feel of realtime combat

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Like sure you can abuse it but that's up the the dude playing the game and I don't care how they play the game since it's single player.

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Pro Target posted:

the planning is imprecise and unpredictable and the start-and-stop rhythm ruins the visceral feel of realtime combat

I'd agree if you are only playing one person but it's kind of necessary if you have a whole party you have to give orders to.

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i disagree cause it works in games like pool of radiance but w/e. im not going to lose sleep over rtwp games

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you can just set autopause after actions and play it basically turn based

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Pomp posted:

It was really obvious it was some nerd superiority complex about athletes

yeah lol I never understood why when sports taught you important life lessons. but that was a false dichotomy and why I always posit the existence of muscle wizards

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Pomp posted:

It was really obvious it was some nerd superiority complex about athletes

How so? That would be hilarious.

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