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zoux posted:You're trolling, but SB 575 is a ban on abortion coverage on insurance purchased through the ACA. 20 week ban passed last session. Good.
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# ? May 27, 2015 03:31 |
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# ? May 17, 2024 13:35 |
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lmao the democrat tries to challenge private property
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# ? May 27, 2015 03:43 |
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Yeah I hate the free market.
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# ? May 27, 2015 05:01 |
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VitalSigns posted:Yeah I hate the free market. Actually people shouldn't be compelled to pay taxes for things they disagree with
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# ? May 27, 2015 05:12 |
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Okay, I disagree with cigarette taxes because I smoke. I disagree with taxes going toward highway funding because I ride a bicycle. I disagree with subsidizing investing and want to tie capital gains to income. I disagree with a homestead exemption and property tax exemption because I don't own a home. Do you see how stupid you sound? You should be compelled to do what society has decided you should do because that's the price of not being ripped apart by wolves at night. edit i mean, what even are you, a big-government anarchist? i say swears online fucked around with this message at 05:31 on May 27, 2015 |
# ? May 27, 2015 05:29 |
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gently caress the ROW posted:Actually people shouldn't be compelled to pay taxes for things they disagree with Except wars, right. Or do you want all taxes to be voluntary. "Please enter the percentage of the US budget to which you don't have moral objections and reduce your taxes due to this percentage. No lying."
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# ? May 27, 2015 05:34 |
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Taxes are rent for civilization. Pay the rent, you mooches.
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# ? May 27, 2015 05:36 |
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So the big day is over, let's get a tally of what made it and what didn't... http://www.texastribune.org/2015/05...:%20Main%20Feed quote:As the clock struck midnight, the failure of an anti-abortion initiative — dear to the hearts of the far right — marked the end of a tumultuous day on the floor of the Texas House that saw the passage of sweeping ethics reform and a version of legislation allowing concealed carrying of handguns on college campuses. Basically: Ethics "reform" passed, campus carry passed (with campuses having the right to still ban guns in labs and hospitals), banning insurance companies from covering abortions failed.
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# ? May 27, 2015 08:05 |
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Campus carry has to go to conference, so those watered-down provisions may or may not stay on. Also I've never seen them move the question on a bill in the House before, pretty crazy. Oh and the hulking, shuffling human piece of poo poo that is Johnathan Stickland is leading an effort to murder local and consent bills because he's so loving mad about SB 575 going down. zoux fucked around with this message at 18:04 on May 27, 2015 |
# ? May 27, 2015 18:00 |
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Someone also put an amendment on campus carry to make private universities follow whatever public universities do, which is I assume some attempt to get private universities to help kill it.
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# ? May 27, 2015 18:05 |
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Oh what a surprise, the language saying police can't stop people just for open carrying got stripped out of the open-carry bill. Good luck exercising your new rights, blacks.
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# ? May 29, 2015 09:31 |
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That was actually a Real Bad amendment that would've effectively instituted constitutional carry. Bob Garrett at the DMN has an outstanding article about the drama surrounding the tax cut negotiations this session. It's a great look at how personality and ego plays a huge part in the legislative process. Also, check out Statesman feature on how the rains have affected lake levels. Wow. zoux fucked around with this message at 16:00 on May 29, 2015 |
# ? May 29, 2015 14:29 |
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Lege passed restrictions on the judicial bypass for abortion for minors.
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# ? May 30, 2015 10:30 |
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So now you can't use abuse as a reason to seek a judicial bypass. Isn't the entire point of the judicial bypass so that underage girls who would get beaten if their parents found out they wanted an abortion could still get one?
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# ? May 30, 2015 13:37 |
zoux posted:That was actually a Real Bad amendment that would've effectively instituted constitutional carry. Open carry was pretty much a given this session but it is delightful that those demanding constitutional carry (because they are barred from a CHL) were sure complete assholes that the Lege made sure to include the CHL requirement.
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# ? May 30, 2015 13:56 |
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Shifty Pony posted:Open carry was pretty much a given this session but it is delightful that those demanding constitutional carry (because they are barred from a CHL) were sure complete assholes that the Lege made sure to include the CHL requirement. The butthurt from some corners is amazing. This OC law is fine in that if you accidentally print or otherwise expose part of your gun you aren't in trouble anymore (outside of the usual restrictions for concealed carry). I guess OC could be useful when camping/fishing out on those state/federal lands that allow it as well. I wish people would start focusing their energy onto real gun rights issues like getting suppressors off the NFA. Its idiotic that a safety device requires a permit to buy and is illegal in some states.
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# ? May 30, 2015 15:44 |
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Shifty Pony posted:Open carry was pretty much a given this session but it is delightful that those demanding constitutional carry (because they are barred from a CHL) were sure complete assholes that the Lege made sure to include the CHL requirement. The best part is that Strauss appointed Pancho Navarez, whose office that showdown video was shot in, to the conference committee on HB910, basically as a huge gently caress you to Kory Watkins. Again I don't think the OC issue is a huge one, you might see some redneck with a pistol on his belt once in a blue moon, but more it was a proxy debate about "are guns good". Anyway the Houston Chronicle has a good article about how tea party and minority interests aligned on the no-stop amendment (which got stripped) zoux fucked around with this message at 16:08 on May 30, 2015 |
# ? May 30, 2015 16:04 |
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So Texas has OC now, but what is that CHL thing? Was there a limit to OC placed when they voted for it?
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# ? May 30, 2015 16:09 |
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Nonsense posted:So Texas has OC now, but what is that CHL thing? Was there a limit to OC placed when they voted for it? As I understand it, it works like this: Before, you could get concealed carry but you had to get a license (CHL) for it. Now, you have a "carry" license that applies to concealed and open carry.
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# ? May 30, 2015 16:13 |
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Nonsense posted:So Texas has OC now, but what is that CHL thing? Was there a limit to OC placed when they voted for it? Yeah basically the CHL now becomes just a general handgun license where you can carry open in a holster or concealed. Same requirements for CHL, background check, training class, etc., apply. Kory Watkins and co wanted constitutional carry where the 2nd Amendment is the whole of the law with respect to handguns. That amendment that got stripped in conference, the one that wouldn't let cops ask to see your license, was basically backdoor con carry. The campus carry bill, which would allow concealed carry on public campuses, is in conference and has some poison pill amendments added by the House on it. The Senate has a 48 hour layout rule on conference committee reports so if they all signed off on it right now it wouldn't be eligible until after the Sunday midnight deadline, so it looks dead. Senate could suspend that rule (they did on open carry yesterday) but I can't remember if that's 21 or 19 ayes. Also Strauss put the heaviest of the heavy hitters on the conference committee including the chair of Education and Trey Martinez Fisher which signals that he wants the House version of the bill, which is unacceptable to the Senate author on ideological grounds. Long story short, it's got a long row to hoe.
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# ? May 30, 2015 16:15 |
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Nonsense posted:So Texas has OC now, but what is that CHL thing? Was there a limit to OC placed when they voted for it? Any sort of carrying of firearms (other than long arms, probably an exception originally intended for hunters) outside of private property was illegal in Texas (Don't want none of those armed minorities and commies running around you see). Then back in the 90's licensed concealed carry was allowed. You go get fingerprinted, registered and take a class to get a permit (A CHL) that allows you to carry a pistol concealed (other than places were it is forbidden, see the law for details etc...). This law adds the ability to open carry to holders of a CHL. So get a CHL and you can carry a pistol any way you want to basically. If you don't have a CHL then you can't carry period, though I think there is a exception for being in a car or something, I'm not a lawyer.
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# ? May 30, 2015 16:22 |
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Thank you all for your answers. I'm very surprised the state lege didn't go for constitutional carry, I saw a Texas Week featuring TXTribune people saying that the old dynamic of conservative democrats, moderate republicans was essentially over, and that it was a tussle between the right and the farther right now. They didn't mention the Dem actions much, which I guess makes sense considering their position in the state now. I wanted to hear them talk about "chubbing", but they didn't bring it up. Nonsense fucked around with this message at 16:37 on May 30, 2015 |
# ? May 30, 2015 16:34 |
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Nonsense posted:Thank you all for your answers. I'm very surprised the state lege didn't go for constitutional carry, I saw a Texas Week featuring TXTribune people saying that the old dynamic of conservative democrats, moderate republicans was essentially over, and that it was a tussle between the right and the farther right now. The House "liberty caucus" mustered 19 votes for their speaker candidate in January, which was not only a mandate for the centrist style of Strauss but indicating that the media handwringing over the New Tea Party Era in Texas was a bit overexaggerated. Honestly this was a terrible session for the tea party and MQS and co. are calling for heads to roll. They got basically nothing they wanted. Also when it turned out Tim Dunn was connected to the American Phoenix people, offices stopped taking his calls.
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# ? May 30, 2015 16:37 |
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Numlock posted:Any sort of carrying of firearms (other than long arms, probably an exception originally intended for hunters) outside of private property was illegal in Texas (Don't want none of those armed minorities and commies running around you see). That's not really an accurate assessment of why carrying handguns was outlawed. It goes back to the 1800s, and had a lot more to do with the old west/frontier areas where the mark of being in a civilized place (like a town) was that people weren't carrying their guns around. zoux posted:The House "liberty caucus" mustered 19 votes for their speaker candidate in January, which was not only a mandate for the centrist style of Strauss but indicating that the media handwringing over the New Tea Party Era in Texas was a bit overexaggerated. Yea, the Tea Party and far-right elements in the state just completely hosed themselves this session. The way that the constitutional-carry people took a slam-dunk and basically made it poison should be turned into a case study by some ambitious poli-sci grad student at UT. The American Phoenix Foundation and their insane semi-blackmail attempt (They told a bunch of legislators "We secretly videotaped you and you won't believe what we caught! We'll be releasing the video after the session if things don't go our way!") was so effective at turning friendly legislators against them that if it was fiction it wouldn't be believable. If this were any other state or political climate, I would be strongly opposed to Joe Strauss and his politics. Since this is Texas, he's basically the best hope we have in state politics. e_angst fucked around with this message at 17:22 on May 30, 2015 |
# ? May 30, 2015 17:19 |
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e_angst posted:That's not really an accurate assessment of why carrying handguns was outlawed. It goes back to the 1800s, and had a lot more to do with the old west/frontier areas where the mark of being in a civilized place (like a town) was that people weren't carrying their guns around. Actually it was outlawed to keep bands of former slaves from arming and looking for payback. The upshot of that APF thing was they turned all their poo poo over to Breitbart Texas, which just said last week it wasn't going to release any of the footage, meaning there was nothing there, meaning they torched a ton of political capital and good will to no benefit. Also the big tea party House and Senate darlings repeatedly embarassed themselves; Stickland was a joke and Molly White wanted all muslims to pledge allegiance to the Israeli flag. It wasn't a good session for Democrats at all but it was a great session for everyone that hates the Tea Party. Also if you want to read some mega tea party here's an email from the big Harris Co. Tea Party Man Steve "Don't call me Goatse" Hotze.
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# ? May 30, 2015 17:35 |
zoux posted:The House "liberty caucus" mustered 19 votes for their speaker candidate in January, which was not only a mandate for the centrist style of Strauss but indicating that the media handwringing over the New Tea Party Era in Texas was a bit overexaggerated. My friend who follows the lege a hell of a lot closer than I do because of her job was saying that a lot of the trouble was the Tea Party freshmen were obsessed with getting speaking time in so they could preen themselves in front of the chambers, committees, or press. Meanwhile the experienced legislators were going around talking/meeting with each other and getting poo poo they cared about done.
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# ? May 30, 2015 18:02 |
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It's worth pointing out, and repeating, that the reason that Open Carry Tarrant County leader Kory Watkins is so thirsty for "constitutional carry" is that he he has a criminal record that makes him ineligible for a CHL. Requiring a license for open carry is a specific middle finger pointed squarely at him and his stupid hat.
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# ? May 30, 2015 19:04 |
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I wonder if they learned their lesson about not smelling like weed and acting threatening when lobbying? Probably not.
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# ? May 30, 2015 19:08 |
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Lemniscate Blue posted:It's worth pointing out, and repeating, that the reason that Open Carry Tarrant County leader Kory Watkins is so thirsty for "constitutional carry" is that he he has a criminal record that makes him ineligible for a CHL. Requiring a license for open carry is a specific middle finger pointed squarely at him and his stupid hat. I thought he would be wearing a ten-gallon, so I looked up his pic and nope it's a loving trilby.
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# ? May 30, 2015 19:08 |
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He posted this on Thursday.
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# ? May 30, 2015 19:16 |
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Nonsense posted:I thought he would be wearing a ten-gallon, so I looked up his pic and nope it's a loving trilby. If you'd told me that this was a guy doing a parody cosplay, I would believe it. Good thing he'll be prepared to indiscriminately spray into crowds and populated buildings once civilization falls and the zombie wars start!! Who else will stand and defend are freedoms?
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# ? May 30, 2015 19:22 |
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I kind of want to carry around some shears to cut the straps on their guns if I see them in public.
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# ? May 30, 2015 19:24 |
zoux posted:He posted this on Thursday. Toph Bei Fong posted:If you'd told me that this was a guy doing a parody cosplay, I would believe it. Ahahaha, what a fuckin' moron. I wonder what his account name on freep is?
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# ? May 30, 2015 19:33 |
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Toph Bei Fong posted:If you'd told me that this was a guy doing a parody cosplay, I would believe it. lmao whats his criminal record for, indecent exposure?
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# ? May 30, 2015 19:42 |
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What's Roger Federer doing in Texas?
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# ? May 30, 2015 19:43 |
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zoux posted:He posted this on Thursday. Wow, what is it with Tea Party types and threatening lawmakers (who agree with them on 90% of issues) when they don't get their way? Goddamn these guys would be scary if they weren't so incredibly politically incompetent.
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# ? May 30, 2015 20:07 |
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e_angst posted:That's not really an accurate assessment of why carrying handguns was outlawed. It goes back to the 1800s, and had a lot more to do with the old west/frontier areas where the mark of being in a civilized place (like a town) was that people weren't carrying their guns around. Lol no. zoux posted:Actually it was outlawed to keep bands of former slaves from arming and looking for payback. That and poors not wanting to be exploited.
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# ? May 30, 2015 20:46 |
Sheng-ji Yang posted:lmao Guilty plea for a Class A misdemeanor. When he was 18 he was caught with burglary tools (a container of broken bits of spark plugs used to quickly break car windows and a bunch of screw drivers) and speakers and cds which had been recently taken from a truck which had its window busted in (by the burglary tools). Texas CHL criteria are really rather strict.
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# ? May 30, 2015 20:48 |
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zoux posted:He posted this on Thursday. isn't it illegal to call for the death of elected officials? cause it sounds like he is trying to incite some people into actually going and killing some of these politicians.
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# ? May 31, 2015 15:56 |
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zoux posted:That was actually a Real Bad amendment that would've effectively instituted constitutional carry. Was the implementation deeply flawed, or do you just oppose the idea of limiting the police's ability to harass minorities?
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