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The only minor problem I could see with The Stone was that it ultimately didn't answer very much, but it was still an interesting one. I would guess that people who didn't like The Stone didn't enjoy Divine either, but that's okay. It's all okay.
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It was pretty interesting, but you better believe there were goons posting, "oh look, we're going even further back in time how much longer do we have to sit through this ughhhhh  " at every new page.
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May 31, 2015 06:15
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It happens in lots of places around here and other boards, a lot of goons legitimately cannot handle a slow pace or a diversion from whatever particular media they're interested in for even a minute without instantly losing their poo poo. It's pretty weird.
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Yeah for some reason there's a lot of people who just want stories to bang out the ~*plot*~ rapid fire with no time for characterization, theatricality, considering or expanding on the themes or ugh, emotions. Action sequences usually get a pass, except for sometimes, when they are bad or it has been decided that they are bad.
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May 31, 2015 07:39
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Just tell me who killed Laura Palmer already so I can stop watching this bullshit!
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I'm just glad the comic has confirmed what I figured had happened and people can stop complaining about the comic selling out the characters because they assumed that nothing can happen 'off-camera' and Anthony's control was some sort of magical mind control totality, but how could Kat just let Renard get taken away like that?!? Now let's get back to arguing whether Anthony is a good person or not 
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Lurdiak posted:Just tell me who killed Laura Palmer already so I can stop watching this bullshit! Maggie Simpson.
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May 31, 2015 16:05
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No way this will backfire or end poorly. No way 
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Kat what the frickle-frackle bait-and-tackle tabernacle are you thinking
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Jun 1, 2015 08:08
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Brightman posted:No way this will backfire or end poorly. No way "What happened to your other hand?! And your right leg! And your left leg! And your epidermis!" "Is it any of your business?" ". . ."
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Jun 1, 2015 08:11
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As a reader it's an obvious Chekhov's gun, but honestly, the right to defend himself is pretty reasonable.
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Jun 1, 2015 08:12
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Kat has had enough of being pushed around by shady characters.
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Jun 1, 2015 08:14
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MikeJF posted:As a reader it's an obvious Chekhov's gun, but honestly, the right to defend himself is pretty reasonable. OH OH Speaking of Chekhov's gun!!!! Jesus christ does he still have the Tooth in his mouth? 
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Tony arrives at dinner missing another hand.
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No idea what you folks are talking about. This is clearly a very reasonable precaution being taken for purely logical reasons that will have absolutely no negative repercussions in the future whatsoever.
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MikeJF posted:As a reader it's an obvious Chekhov's gun, but honestly, the right to defend himself is pretty reasonable. I too think that telling the monster with multiple innocent bodies to his name and emotional problems related to obsessing over a crippled man's wife that he can do whatever he wants to that man in the name of 'protecting himself' is a totally reasonable response to the situation, and Kat is not at all crazy here.
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Jun 1, 2015 08:41
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Because Kat totally sees Rey as a monster with multiple innocent bodies to his name and not a friend that has been helpful and protective of them for the past few years.
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Jun 1, 2015 09:00
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Yes, and that makes her telling him to kill her best friend's dad if poo poo goes down so much better!
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why aren't these children in this story perfect rational actors and furthermore
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Boogaleeboo posted:Yes, and that makes her telling him to kill her best friend's dad if poo poo goes down so much better! Keep in mind that Renard has built up a lot of good will based on his actions since then. Enough so that even Egalmore (who is very well acquainted with Renard's crimes and suffered personal losses just because of him) tolerates his company and spends time with him. It stands to reason that whether your opinion of him, that Kat trusts him a lot more than Anthony and just wants him to be safe in case Anthony decides to dissect or murder him. Or does whatever else Kat thinks he is going to do. Given the comic, this is probably going to back fire in some way (probably not in anthony's death but maybe Renard hurts him and it causes Annie to break away from Kat or something) this is a pretty reasonable thing for Kat to do given the events of the comic as a whole.
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JuniperCake posted:Given the comic, this is probably going to back fire in some way (probably not in anthony's death but maybe Renard hurts him and it causes Annie to break away from Kat or something) this is a pretty reasonable thing for Kat to do given the events of the comic as a whole. It's reasonable in the sense it makes sense for the character and the plot, it's unreasonable in the sense she just told her pet monster he can kill someone. Seagull posted:why aren't these children in this story perfect rational actors and furthermore I don't know what the heck you were doing at 14 [I think, what are they at now?], but I think most people grasped "Don't randomly setup people to be murdered' by then. That seems like a low bar for the stupidity of the teenage years to clear.
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Jun 1, 2015 09:19
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And she only refrained from telling him to gently caress Anthony up because of a promise she made to Antimony. She's got a pretty good hate going.
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Keep in mind Renard is currently feigning enslavement to someone he hates simply to protect Antimony. Think about if you were put in a similar situation, and forbidden from defending yourself if attacked. That would be disgusting. Y'all are over-reacting to Kat being smart and pragmatic and merciful by allowing her good friend to escape harm if it comes to that.
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Boogaleeboo posted:I too think that telling the monster with multiple innocent bodies to his name and emotional problems related to obsessing over a crippled man's wife that he can do whatever he wants to that man in the name of 'protecting himself' is a totally reasonable response to the situation, and Kat is not at all crazy here. Two bodies, only one of which was premeditated.
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Jun 1, 2015 09:36
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I've always liked Reynard's justification of possessing Sivo - it wasn't as bad because he "bested him" in a fight. It's a pretty good way of showing that he's not evil or perfectly sympathetic, he has just some values alien to us.
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Jun 1, 2015 09:44
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If Kat is that much concerned over Renard why not get him out of there? I thought this was a rescue mission? If she distrusts Anthony that much that she suspects he'll try to harm Renard then she's putting him in danger by using him as a spy.BravestOfTheLamps posted:I've always liked Reynard's justification of possessing Sivo - it wasn't as bad because he "bested him" in a fight. It's a pretty good way of showing that he's not evil or perfectly sympathetic, he has just some values alien to us. Just some values alien to us, like it being ok to murder people sometimes. Killing someone in a duel is murder, and has been for a long time.
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YF-23 posted:Just some values alien to us, like it being ok to murder people sometimes. This is actually a perfectly common opinion. e: quote:Killing someone in a duel is murder, and has been for a long time. And like you yourself say here, "murder" is a chronally-bound cultural construction - this is characterisation, as it shows that Reynard comes from a different culture. BravestOfTheLamps fucked around with this message at 10:02 on Jun 1, 2015 |
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Jun 1, 2015 09:56
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Did Kat say "kill him in the name of protecting yourself"? No, she said "IF he tries to hurt you, THEN the magically-enforced ban on hurting him is lifted".
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Jun 1, 2015 10:06
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You guys are pretty dumb if you think Renard would murder Annie's dad.
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Jun 1, 2015 10:08
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"Do whatever it takes to defend yourself" isn't exactly the same as "it's okay to kill Anthony". It could be as simple as kicking his butt and running off.
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Jun 1, 2015 10:09
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Just a bit of mauling, you guys.
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Fangz posted:"Do whatever it takes to defend yourself" isn't exactly the same as "it's okay to kill Anthony". But at the same time it's ALSO not the same as just "you can defend yourself."
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Jun 1, 2015 10:31
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Fangz posted:"Do whatever it takes to defend yourself" isn't exactly the same as "it's okay to kill Anthony". Though it does leave open the opportunity for Tony murder if it was legitimately the only way to stop him from something like taking a harmless but painful skin sample, which a less dramatic phrasing might not.
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Renard only has permission to act. Nothing precludes him just sitting there and taking it, if he chose to do so.
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What I do think this sets up is a test of character for Rey. Whether he has actually changed or not. I think he has.
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Fangz posted:What I do think this sets up is a test of character for Rey. Whether he has actually changed or not. I think he has. And we've had a chapter to establish that Reynard will totally murder your rear end if necessary.
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This comic has like never ever gotten not picky about precise words used to tell renard what to do. Like ever.
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Fangz posted:"Do whatever it takes to defend yourself" isn't exactly the same as "it's okay to kill Anthony". It could be as simple as kicking his butt and running off.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:And we've had a chapter to establish that Reynard will totally murder your rear end if necessary. To stop someone from murdering an unknowing child.
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