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My fervent dream is that someone makes a FPS based on Operation Downfall. There have been a number of decent works of fiction about it, and I think a really good game could come out of it. It would be pretty dark, but they made Spec Ops: The Line; so it's plausible.
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Phanatic posted:I can't expect that was the idea. Japan was going to have plenty of kamikazes available, and minesweepers are defenseless. So if the idea is 'We'll just sweep this invasion harbor before we sail our invasion fleet on into it," either you leave your minesweepers exposed or you bring your anti-air coverage into the harbor alongside them, in which case the latter are exposed to the mines the sweepers are there to remove. Of course it was the idea. You invade empty beaches, that aren't mined, and capture the ports later. If you're trying to mount an amphibious operation against a city, you've hosed up.
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Mycroft Holmes posted:My fervent dream is that someone makes a FPS based on Operation Downfall. There have been a number of decent works of fiction about it, and I think a really good game could come out of it. It would be pretty dark, but they made Spec Ops: The Line; so it's plausible. I'm assuming you mean from the US perspective? Good news is they could just steal the weapon degradation mechanic from Far Cry 2 with regards to Japanese small arms.
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Jobbo_Fett posted:I'm assuming you mean from the US perspective? Yeah. My perfect game would include a scene where you play a member of the Red Ball Express whose convoy is attacked. I want some minority representation in order to commemorate their contribution to the war effort.
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Jun 2, 2015 20:11
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Mycroft Holmes posted:Yeah. My perfect game would include a scene where you play a member of the Red Ball Express whose convoy is attacked. I want some minority representation in order to commemorate their contribution to the war effort. I'm still waiting on a game from the Canadian perspective that isn't a lovely CoD game built by Activision's B-team. Really, the bigger shame is that WW2 FPS' have become played out because all they ever really do is tell an American, British, or Soviet perspective. And more often than not its a bastardized version. Fake edit: Not to say those perspectives are bad, just that it's been done so often that it all blends together poorly.
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dublish posted:Of course it was the idea. You invade empty beaches, that aren't mined, and capture the ports later. If you're trying to mount an amphibious operation against a city, you've hosed up. The Eventually, to support something the size of an invasion of Japan you need to get some major ports and rail lines going but the initial stages would all be done from the beach. For D-Day, for example, the logistics groups were able to unload more material over the beaches than the British ports could supply (the ports had more obligations than just D-Day Support though). http://www.almc.army.mil/alog/issues/NovDec03/Logistics_of_Invasion.htm posted:Docking facilities were critical to the quick discharge of supplies and equipment in France. Mulberries were used to receive the tons of supplies and equipment needed to keep the invasion force moving forward. When the quantity of supplies coming in exceeded the number of Mulberries available, the remaining supplies were offloaded using logistics over-the-shore operations. Murgos fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Jun 2, 2015 |
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dublish posted:Of course it was the idea. You invade empty beaches, that aren't mined, and capture the ports later. If you're trying to mount an amphibious operation against a city, you've hosed up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Inchon 
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Mycroft Holmes posted:My fervent dream is that someone makes a FPS based on Operation Downfall. There have been a number of decent works of fiction about it, and I think a really good game could come out of it. It would be pretty dark, but they made Spec Ops: The Line; so it's plausible. Considering how they planned to clear the invasion beaches, I think they already made that FPS.
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Jun 2, 2015 20:33
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Did Allies have scuba divers chart the potential beaches in Japan like they did in Normandy?
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Jun 2, 2015 20:50
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Any goons attending the 200th anniversary reinactment of Waterloo? or taking part in it? If so, so jealous in advance!
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Jun 2, 2015 20:57
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Nenonen posted:Did Allies have scuba divers chart the potential beaches in Japan like they did in Normandy? I think the group that did this evolved into the modern day SEAL.
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Jun 2, 2015 20:58
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Baloogan posted:I think the group that did this evolved into the modern day SEAL. Not directly. They became the frogmen of Korea and Vietnam, which then became the SEALs.
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Mycroft Holmes posted:My fervent dream is that someone makes a FPS based on Operation Downfall. There have been a number of decent works of fiction about it, and I think a really good game could come out of it. It would be pretty dark, but they made Spec Ops: The Line; so it's plausible.  I'm pretty sure it was Konami's attempt to butt into Squinex's Front Mission series.No tank destroyers, but at least they had infantry supporting armored vehicles. Also your foreign military advisors are Max and Ilsa. 
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100 Years Ago I may well have to make an exception to my "Generals are boring" policy for Sir Ian Hamilton, whose limitless capacity for doublethink I find truly incredible. Once again he's spent a large amount of time bemoaning how impossible it is to do anything to his diary. And once again the many excellent reasons at Gallipoli just to sit tight for a while that he's outlined so painstakingly have been completely discarded. General Hunter-Weston is going to be allowed to try to attack Krithia again. Sigh. Elsewhere, there's martial law in Sri Lanka, General d'Urbal attempts to remove an inconvenient village from the map, and just guess what Louis Barthas is doing today. (Hint; it starts with "c" and ends with "omplaining".)
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Jun 3, 2015 00:10
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Splode posted:Are there any good realistic tank videogames? Or has nobody done it because the reality is tank warfare is boring and poo poo? War Thunder is pretty good for an arcadey tank game. Sure, the requirements for killing tanks are basically "kill basically all the crew but the last person in a tank, blow up the ammo or blow up the fuel tanks/engine" but at least you get a cool PIP replay of your shots (failing) to penetrate and the damage they do as they shrapnel inside your target.
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Eej posted:War Thunder is pretty good for an arcadey tank game. Sure, the requirements for killing tanks are basically "kill basically all the crew but the last person in a tank, blow up the ammo or blow up the fuel tanks/engine" but at least you get a cool PIP replay of your shots (failing) to penetrate and the damage they do as they shrapnel inside your target. It's mechanically reasonably accurate (and has some totally bizarre things like big ol' radiators for air-cooled engines), but it's tanks fighting with no AT guns, infantry or anything but planes in sight. There are very few games that are accurate in situation and mechanics short of outright sims.
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Jun 3, 2015 05:40
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Advanced Squad Leader 
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StashAugustine posted:Advanced Squad Leader Maybe the roguelike based on it, Armoured Commander?
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Jun 3, 2015 05:57
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No one ever heard of Steel Beasts here?
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I've been playing heroes and generals lately which is kinda like RO except with a pay to unlock weapons and what not system. Anyhow $10 will unlock you a jeep and sticky bombs at which point you are an absolute terror to enemy tankers as they and the infantry players never work with each other  .
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Jun 3, 2015 06:34
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So it's like an MMO BF1942? Complete with Jihad Jeeping?
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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To me it feels like WW2OL Light with the moments where your just stumbling around for minutes looking for the fighting though. Not a fan. Might give it one more shot when Brit/Commonwealth faction is added. Grinding to get stuff if you don't want to play is a fort in the eye bad.
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Yeah it's not a very good game but its so easy to get the tankers to rage quit it's almost worth it.
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RO was my favourite game for a very, very long time. Sad that RO2 is poo poo.
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100 Years Ago Sadly, the departure of Winston Churchill has seen the Admiralty adopt a rather more sane plan for Konigsberg than "SET THE ENTIRE DAMNED RIVER ON FIRE". A Buddhist priest in Sri Lanka falls down one set of stairs too many while being arrested, Louis Barthas continues gathering materials for his comprehensive tour guide "Shitholes of Northern France", the BEF orders infantry battalions to form (Meanwhile, the newspaper is flogging "Untrimmed Hats", which I find inordinately amusing.)
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Trin Tragula posted:100 Years Ago Is the unrest in the Empire in this period unusual, or is it just the standard poo poo except the British are short-handed?
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feedmegin posted:Uh, and British. To be fair. Our fleet would have been a drop in the ocean compared to the ludicrous USN strength Edit: Hmmmh. Actually bigger than I thought http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Pacific_Fleet 750 planes is a significant force. Deptfordx fucked around with this message at 13:59 on Jun 3, 2015 |
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i quite like Louis Barthas he's refusing to dehumanise himself, retreating into a resolute, laconic grumpiness which i think is the only appropriate attitude for a private at war
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Deptfordx posted:To be fair. Our fleet would have been a drop in the ocean compared to the ludicrous USN strength This might be a good time for someone to tell me if Seafires were god or not.
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Disinterested posted:This might be a good time for someone to tell me if Seafires were god or not. Our lord and Seafire.
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mlmp08 posted:Our lord and Seafire. First google result for god seafire 
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Deptfordx posted:To be fair. Our fleet would have been a drop in the ocean compared to the ludicrous USN strength Reading this and came across: quote:The USN liaison officer on Indefatigable commented: "When a kamikaze hits a US carrier it means 6 months of repair at Pearl [Harbor]. When a kamikaze hits a Limey carrier it's just a case of 'Sweepers, man your brooms.' 
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Disinterested posted:First google result for god seafire this is very literal Early Seafires were basically Spitfires with tailhooks, which meant they were real hot rods but were totally ill adapted for carrier operations (same with the Bf-109T). Narrow landing gear, weaker airframe, lots of torque, limited range, no air-ground ordnance, etc. Later variants got beefed up landing gear and airframes which helped but they were never really good carrier planes.
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Actually the kamikaze hits permanently warped the decks and led to the carriers being scrapped after the war, but oh well I guess
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Murgos posted:The What were all those troops doing? I always get the impression only 100k are doing anything at any time.
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ArchangeI posted:Actually the kamikaze hits permanently warped the decks and led to the carriers being scrapped after the war, but oh well I guess Well yeah but that's after the war which is a good time for your ships to become unseaworthy.
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Alchenar posted:Well yeah but that's after the war which is a good time for your ships to become unseaworthy. So I take it a majority of the surplus from the 2nd World War was scrapped if it was obsolete or beyond minor repair? I am curious now what determined was good enough to sell after the war and what wasn't really needed.
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The biggest difference was deck parks. You park a ton of flammable planes on top and hits can really wreck your day. On the other hand the British carrier wings shot down a very disproportionately low number of planes per hull and took nearly as many kamikaze hits as US carriers, and that's not a per ship figure.
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SeanBeansShako posted:Any goons attending the 200th anniversary reinactment of Waterloo? or taking part in it? I'm not, but you reminded me I was sitting on some pictures from our local Waterloo-monument. From the German city of Hannover:  For the Victors of Waterloo The Thankful Fatherland  The fallen of the Royal Hanoverian troops at Waterloo, starting with the Regiment Osnabrück, commanded by the Duke of York.  Continuation: The fallen of the Regiment Göttingen and the 2nd Oder (Osterode) and 3rd Oder (Münden) Landwehr battailons.  From another side: More dead people  Royal German Legion, artillery, MP and more Landwehr militia. Also some cavalry from the Duke of Cumberland.  More dead from the Royal German Legion.  The monument from below. Here you can read the inscriptions the best, but can't actually see the statue on top because the loving column is so incredibly high.  First try at getting the statue. Still too close!  Finally, from the very end of the green, I get the statue on the frame: Some angel holding a laurel wreath. (At least I hope that's what it is, my zoom function couldn't get close enough to really tell.) You can actually go up the ~46 meters of the monument at some times of the year, but most of the time the ascent is closed for the public. Edit: Man, if you add all the Hanoverian troops to the Prussian soldiers also at Waterloo, the battle was like 2/3rds a German victory. 
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It is a drat impressive monument. It always amused me that the Duke Of Wellington got really sulky about it ruining his perfect battlefield.
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