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It used to be trainsignal. They were on par/slightly below CBT nuggets.
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m.hache posted:That's still a ridiculous amount of information to have on hand at any time though. I can't imagine memorizing even a portion of it and have it be useful. When I was going to school for my degree in Education we were required to take a class on testing methodologies - it was basically a class that trained us how to write tests that actually covered the material we taught, and wasn't some sort of "gotcha" game. It's been 17 years since I took the class, but basically it boiled down to you, as the test writer, making sure the test was validated (i.e. not covering minutiae that was never discussed or covered). It seems to me that maybe the Microsoft test writers should take a course on that, rather than going up to one of the programmers and asking him to come up with a couple questions to ask about his esoteric application that runs in the background and no one really works with (x100). But hey, what the hell do I know.
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Daylen Drazzi posted:When I was going to school for my degree in Education we were required to take a class on testing methodologies - it was basically a class that trained us how to write tests that actually covered the material we taught, and wasn't some sort of "gotcha" game. It's been 17 years since I took the class, but basically it boiled down to you, as the test writer, making sure the test was validated (i.e. not covering minutiae that was never discussed or covered). It seems to me that maybe the Microsoft test writers should take a course on that, rather than going up to one of the programmers and asking him to come up with a couple questions to ask about his esoteric application that runs in the background and no one really works with (x100). I'm not sure if it's because I failed the 410 twice that it's left a sour taste in my mouth, but of all the exams I've taken throughout college, and for certifications, if I got a low mark I could look at myself and go "Yeah, I probably should have studied more". With the 410, it was like "How the gently caress was I supposed to prep for that?"
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Alright my new company wants me to head down the ccnp collaboration path. Am I blind or are there no official books for collaboration OR video available???? I know voice and video are being retired but why is there no video book at all, the path has been out for Years.
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m.hache posted:I'm not sure if it's because I failed the 410 twice that it's left a sour taste in my mouth, but of all the exams I've taken throughout college, and for certifications, if I got a low mark I could look at myself and go "Yeah, I probably should have studied more". Microsoft is doing what's called artificial difficulty, because they felt that their certifications were being cheapened because some 6 year old was able to pass an exam. It didn't make any difference that the child had been coached by both her parents (who were IT instructors) or that she could barely read - with enough time and reinforcement anyone can memorize a test and the correct answers, but if you'd placed her in front of a computer and asked her to run through a scenario she would have been lost. But rather than consider that this was an incredibly unusual situation with some low-skill, entry-level exam, Microsoft had a knee-jerk reaction and decided to invalidate their own certification exams by going with the artificial difficulty. A better way to handle it would have been to go with more scenario and trouble-shooting questions, which require more experience and higher-order thinking skills. Microsoft is pretty much guaranteeing that a large number of people are going to cheat on their exams, thereby proving the exam is invalid, because the only way to pass is by using a brain-dump. And in response to that Microsoft will increase the artificiality of the exam, which will definitely cheapen the value of the certification. I took an opposite view of things when I taught - if a large number of my students were passing an exam, it wasn't because they were cheating. It was because the test was valid, they had studied and learned the material, and the content I taught was spot on with what the students needed to learn in order to meet the objectives of the class, of which the test was the final evaluation.
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Bigass Moth posted:Alright my new company wants me to head down the ccnp collaboration path. Am I blind or are there no official books for collaboration OR video available???? https://www.udemy.com/ccnpallinone/?dtcode=AMoXTBY2Zyi9 Someone was saying somethign about Chris Bryant being a good source for CCNA/CCNP stuff. Right now you can get the course for too
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After reading these last 2 pages...now I'm really worried Guess it's time to find some of these dumps that keep getting mentioned.
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Mr. Clark2 posted:After reading these last 2 pages...now I'm really worried I wouldn't. If you ever get caught using the dumps you'll have all certs pulled and be black listed. Just go in and hope you get a good test.
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Also you won't learn it. Anyone can memorize answers but if you don't know it it'll show.
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Yeah but if you can't pass the test you'll never have the cert. It's a double edged sword. For any non-MCSA 2012 cert you should never, ever, ever dump it. For the MCSA, as long as I don't have to hear about it, I don't care what you do. e: To be clear, I am not advocating that anyone use a test dump, I am merely pointing out that if a test is nothing but obscure trivia that it is up to the individual to make sure they can pass it. MC Fruit Stripe fucked around with this message at 21:58 on May 27, 2015 |
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incoherent posted:If you think thats bad think of how many admins had to study and learn network access protection (NAP) only to be depreciated in 2012. Hey! I just failed my 70-411 and guess what they suggest that I study as one of my weakest three areas!
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So I got my CCNA R&S last month, and my school, FINALLY comes through with my second CCNA voucher, I don't need it as I got work to pay for my test. Anyway, its good for either of the 2 part test, CCENT 100-101 or 200-101, these are normally $150 and Id be willing to save someone some cash and sell it for $100. Any takers?
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:Hey! I just failed my 70-411 and guess what they suggest that I study as one of my weakest three areas! http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Server-Networking-Network-Protection/dp/0735624224 Select used book and pay . pound that out and you're gold. Just think if this book was a part of the curriculum you're supposed to read you might of not horribly failed! Also it is incredibly complex to maintain for its security gains and if you gently caress up you can easily lock everyone out of the domain. One bad patch (or virus def) that needs to be installed to allow network access, but they can't get in because it can't apply for x y z reasons. This is a dark reality you face. incoherent fucked around with this message at 22:44 on May 27, 2015 |
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m.hache posted:I wouldn't. If you ever get caught using the dumps you'll have all certs pulled and be black listed. How would one theoretically get caught using a test dump?
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I remember seeing in a cert forum that some dude got black listed for answering 100% and in less than 30 minutes.
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It's like a lot of rules in life - the only way to get caught is by being an idiot. Oh well, I don't want to go too much further down this path. I stand by my "make the test better or don't complain if people use test dumps" comment but I don't want that to be the only topic.
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Force microsoft employees to take their own tests. That will fix them real fast.
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The lovely thing is that I got outstanding scores in Group Policy and File/Print Services. Those are really easy to set up in a lab environment and I practiced the hell out of them. But with Network services, I have no idea how to set up practice VPNs and DirectAccess that aren't totally contrived. I still have MOAC lab access, I'm just going to do the relevant labs a half dozen times before taking the test again. Maybe it'll stick this time.
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To get us somewhat back on track...any recommendations on books to read to study for the 70-410? I have this book: http://amzn.to/1AyVEoX but since the portion devoted to 70-410 is only about 400 pages, I'm thinking it may be a bit sparse.
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The Thread posted:CompTIA vs. Vendor Certs I'm not arguing vendor certifications are bad but if you have a choice between your CCNA/MCSA/RHCSA vs. Network+/Server+/Linux+ pick the former. Inspector_666 posted:How would one theoretically get caught using a test dump? Actually cheat during the test? I did re-call a pretty popular story where someone taking the CCIE-Lab was shown the door because the instructor accused him of bringing a cheat sheet. He claims he did no such thing and to an extent I'd say he's somewhat banned from networking for life. All vendors claim they do analytical evaluations on their tests for outliers. incoherent posted:Force microsoft employees to take their own tests. That will fix them real fast. I've worked for Microsoft as a Vendor, Partner and the tests are bullshit but don't ask me why because I have zero loving clue. I am in complete agreement that many of the questions are downright awful and ask about features that are incredibly minor, obtuse or even deprecated. For my 74-325 I failed the first time despite working with Office 365 daily because the answers on the test don't match up with what's accurate for the product today. I had to use wayback machine, go on the Office 365 website 4-6 months ago, see the specifications for the service and take my test again. As for braindumps, I have to say it's pretty pathetic when they're the on the first or second page of google. Microsoft should seriously revamp it's entire education program, consolidate the certifications (less is more) and the exam more real-world. I haven't taken a Red Hat exam but having a live VM with only a console sounds like a much better way to test candidates and that's impossible to braindump. Gucci Loafers fucked around with this message at 04:54 on May 28, 2015 |
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The VM Chimney option was one of ~7 possible answers. Now that I've looked it up I believe the correct answer was Single Root I/O Virtualization (SR-IOV) and the Chimney option was just there to throw me off. "SR-IOV enables network traffic to bypass the software switch layer of the Hyper-V virtualization stack." I don't think it's as bad as "I was given questions I shouldn't have". I reserve the right to still be upset though. Someone asked about Pluralsight - I got a free 30 days and really enjoyed it. The 70-410 stuff is split into little 10 minute chunks instead of 40+ mins of James loving Conrad waffling on about hiking or his local coffee shop. I found them concise and to the point for the most part. I also watched a few sessions on Javascript, AngularJS and Network+ content and found that pretty good too. My boss tried to watch one on SQL and hated it. That might be more to do with the subject matter.
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How are people supposed to get a cert if the only way to pass is to use it in a production environment, where most people would want you to have a cert to make sure you don't burn the place down? I wonder if it's worth taking 2008 R2 instead or waiting to see what the 2016 exam is like. My shop is mostly 2008 at this point still. If they're going to be underhanded with their testing, I don't see why I need to waste money and time when there's another way.
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Swink posted:The VM Chimney option was one of ~7 possible answers. Now that I've looked it up I believe the correct answer was Single Root I/O Virtualization (SR-IOV) and the Chimney option was just there to throw me off. This is the correct answer. I haven't take the 2012 yet, but that and every other bulletpoint feature of 2012/R2 are located in this book http://aka.ms/682788pdf The rest are here http://www.microsoftvirtualacademy.com/ebooks skooma512 posted:I wonder if it's worth taking 2008 R2 instead or waiting to see what the 2016 exam is like. My shop is mostly 2008 at this point still. If they're going to be underhanded with their testing, I don't see why I need to waste money and time when there's another way. Get in on the ground floor of the racket with 08 and just do upgrades on the certs. 2016 will feature DSC, Containers, nano and no-gui default install. incoherent fucked around with this message at 06:18 on May 28, 2015 |
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ICND1 this afternoon.... It's time to gently caress!!!!!!
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SaltLick posted:https://www.udemy.com/ccnpallinone/?dtcode=AMoXTBY2Zyi9 I used his class and CBTNuggets when studying for my CCNA. I prefer the CBT videos if you can get them cheap. Otherwise Chris Bryant's aren't bad, just not as polished as the CBT videos. He also breaks down his classes into much smaller 7-15 minute videos instead of 40-60 minute videos like CBT does. So if you prefer more quick and less focused videos he's a good choice.
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incoherent posted:Get in on the ground floor of the racket with 08 and just do upgrades on the certs. 2016 will feature DSC, Containers, nano and no-gui default install. Can't second this enough. The Hyper-V basics suck, a LOT, but it's better to get the 2k8R2 cert and upgrade to 2012R2 now that there's more prep material than just the MS Press book in case that's not your learning style. https://spmatt.wordpress.com/2013/10/29/how-i-passed-70-417/ When the 2016 certs come out, get in on the ground floor, gun on the prep material, lab it up, and have it down before R2 comes out and forces rewrites of all the prep material. Do all the Powershell you can between now and then as well. It'll make you a better IT professional, not just a better Windows admin.
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904/1000 on ICND1 that was so much easier than I thought it was going to be!
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Awesome man you earned it !
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crunk dork posted:904/1000 on ICND1 that was so much easier than I thought it was going to be! Great job!
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Just passed my 70-533 Azure Infrastructure and holy hell that is one hard test. I was feeling awful at the end and I clicked submit just because I wanted it to end. Surprised to see 733/1000 and passed. For those that are taking the test be sure to know how to configure whichever features in XML. Know how to configure everything no matter how simple in both the GUI and Powershell.
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Tab8715 posted:Just passed my 70-533 Azure Infrastructure and holy hell that is one hard test. I was feeling awful at the end and I clicked submit just because I wanted it to end. What did you use to prepare for it? I took the 70-632 Azure Developer exam on Friday and thought the Microsoft Press Exam Ref did a good job of covering the material.
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Hiyoshi posted:What did you use to prepare for it? I took the 70-632 Azure Developer exam on Friday and thought the Microsoft Press Exam Ref did a good job of covering the material. The same the Exam Reference 70-533 which does cover the test but the questions asked are just obtuse and unrealistic.
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I'm kicking around the idea of taking the 70-417. One test seems easier than 3, and it's so broad even if you suck at once tiny section you might still pull it off. Not sure if I can find the motivation though, I've had no desire to study anything at all since I finished WGU.
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skipdogg posted:I'm kicking around the idea of taking the 70-417. One test seems easier than 3, and it's so broad even if you suck at once tiny section you might still pull it off. Not sure if I can find the motivation though, I've had no desire to study anything at all since I finished WGU. I'd say get it before 2016 hits - that way you're ready to do the 70-417 upgrade for Server 2016.
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So I have finally decided that working in insurance can go gently caress right off and am aiming for my first certs. I know enough to pretty easily pass the A+, network+ and Security+ exams with minimal studying, but I also did the Cisco Discovery 1-4 courses 4 years ago and am pretty solid with networking concepts in general. My question then is, should i even bother with the A+, Network+ or Security+ certs or focus my time on the CCNA, which would take me more studying to feel prepared for but I am still reasonably sure I could pass easily. I also feel I should ask how much the CCNA has changed since I last learned this material...is IPV6 heavily focused on? I worry that might sink me if so... How tough is that compared to IPV4? Thanks in advance...this is pretty intimidating to me since I feel like I wasted years of my life at the company I am at now and am playing from behind.
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I think it depends on if you want to quit insurance now and get a leg up on experience with a help desk job. If you're content with your current position then yea sure go for the CCNA and try and break in through that. It'll definitely take you further in your career.
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Get the ccna and forget about the comptia stuff.
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Person Dyslexic posted:So I have finally decided that working in insurance can go gently caress right off and am aiming for my first certs. I know enough to pretty easily pass the A+, network+ and Security+ exams with minimal studying, but I also did the Cisco Discovery 1-4 courses 4 years ago and am pretty solid with networking concepts in general. My question then is, should i even bother with the A+, Network+ or Security+ certs or focus my time on the CCNA, which would take me more studying to feel prepared for but I am still reasonably sure I could pass easily. I got my CCNA late last year (After the changes to the new version) and I think I had one IPv6 question total between both exams.
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Bigass Moth posted:Get the ccna and forget about the comptia stuff. This. Just lie about having the CompTIA certs if you feel like it and know you have equivalent knowledge. I don't think anyone is going to ask for cert numbers and check them for those three specifically. Not really ethical I guess but who cares if you have the knowledge and are trying to get past HR.
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crunk dork posted:Just lie about having the CompTIA certs if you feel like it and know you have equivalent knowledge. I don't think anyone is going to ask for cert numbers and check them for those three specifically. Not really ethical I guess but who cares if you have the knowledge and are trying to get past HR. The IT Certification Megathread: Just lie about having the certs if you feel like it
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