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Amergin posted:We don't know she's a "victim" of anything. As has been pointed out here, all we know is she decided to not bother with the retrial and thus she lost. There are other victims in the world besides her, rear end in a top hat. And mocking the idea that talking about one's abuse is no big deal shits on all of them that had to actually do that.
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Relentlessboredomm posted:In good news. Sepp Blatter resigned. Best suggestion I've seen so far for a replacement:
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# ? Jun 2, 2015 23:03 |
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Amergin posted:Sure, and you can highlight that by going through the trial process from start to finish rather than throwing a bitchfit when retrials pop up. Please leave your gimmick to politics and don't help normalize these attitudes on the issue of rape.
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# ? Jun 2, 2015 23:04 |
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Joementum posted:Of the Senators running for President, only Cruz voted "yes". Paul, Rubio, and Sanders voted "no". Graham wasn't present, but has tweeted out that he would have voted "no". Okay, just to confirm: the FREEDOM Act was Paul's baby right? And he voted no?
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# ? Jun 2, 2015 23:04 |
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site posted:Okay, just to confirm: the FREEDOM Act was Paul's baby right? And he voted no? Yep, keeping the proud Paul tradition alive!
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# ? Jun 2, 2015 23:06 |
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site posted:Okay, just to confirm: the FREEDOM Act was Paul's baby right? And he voted no? No, Paul is opposed to it because it still allows for bulk data collection, except now it will be done by the telecoms and then requested of them by the NSA. This was the compromise worked out in the House and co-sponsored in the Senate by the Democratic leadership and Ted Cruz (yes, seriously). Paul is opposed because it doesn't go far enough. McConnell and Graham are opposed because they think it goes too far.
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# ? Jun 2, 2015 23:08 |
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Amergin posted:How is her art stunt a part of her "new life" in which she's trying to "move on" though? Different person
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Who What Now posted:There are other victims in the world besides her, rear end in a top hat. And mocking the idea that talking about one's abuse is no big deal shits on all of them that had to actually do that. Let's try and stay on topic - this one particular case. Isn't carrying a mattress around a statement that you're pretty comfortable with talking about it? Also, attending SOTU with a Senator, attending multiple panels, giving presentations about it... obviously SHE (not all rape victims) doesn't have a problem talking about it. So why the issue with not involving the police? edit: This particular post is about Sulkowicz, not "Josie".
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# ? Jun 2, 2015 23:26 |
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Also "retrial popping up"
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# ? Jun 2, 2015 23:28 |
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Good god y'all there has to be another thread where you could be this stupid.
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# ? Jun 2, 2015 23:34 |
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Shageletic posted:Good god y'all there has to be another thread where you could be this stupid. If you want, you can read about the White House propaganda machine working to preserve NSA snooping on your dick pics. "Transparent administration" my rear end.
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# ? Jun 2, 2015 23:38 |
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Joementum posted:No, Paul is opposed to it because it still allows for bulk data collection, except now it will be done by the telecoms and then requested of them by the NSA. Thank you.
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# ? Jun 2, 2015 23:54 |
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We must ban digital technology so we can have privacy again. Butlerian Rand 2016
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 00:14 |
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Jackson Taus posted:The point she seems to be making is that the accused was granted a full retrial on appeal even though she had followed the rules. Combined with him being allowed to delay the trial while he was in Europe, this resulted in extra and unnecessary pain to her of having to continually rehash and re-visit a deeply unpleasant experience. It was obviously an unspeakably awful situation for her but unfortunately I think that a strong appeals system that is flexible for the defendant is extremely important, if only for the fact that court proceedings are already weighed against poor minorities (who of course make up a majority of defendants)
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 00:15 |
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I'm about to be offline for ~2 weeks, so I'll leave you all with this blast from the past: How About Tax Reparations For The Rich? (Forbes, 2011)
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 01:08 |
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zoux posted:I was wondering where all this extra liberty came from. Reminder that earlier last month everyone was rooting for the USA FREEDOM Act and were disappointed when it seemed dead because it was not the PATRIOT act.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 01:08 |
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Have a fun vacation, FC
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 01:16 |
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What schools still have communal showers as part of the gym class? In my experience they were primarily used by the sports teams. Is Mike Huckabee making a point about the absurdity of gender segregation in athletics? Since if he identified as a woman he would likely want to play on the women's team.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 01:36 |
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http://ux.delawareonline.com/story/...d6de50a73e51e5d Delaware is about to decriminalize pot.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 01:55 |
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President Obama has signed the Uniting and Strengthening America by Fulfilling Rights and Ensuring Effective Discipline Over Monitoring Act of 2015.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 02:13 |
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Joementum posted:President Obama has signed the Uniting and Strengthening America by Fulfilling Rights and Ensuring Effective Discipline Over Monitoring Act of 2015. USAFREEDOMA? Now you're just making stuff up, Joe.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 02:19 |
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Radbot posted:Hmm, something tells me you wouldn't think the same about that if this case didn't involve sexual assault.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 02:19 |
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Joementum posted:An over-100-year-old beech tree was cut down today on the White House grounds. A victim of last night's storm. Thanks, Obama. Joementum posted:It uses the Baron Harkonnen anti-gravity suspensors, obviously. McDowell posted:We must ban digital technology so we can have privacy again. Butlerian Rand 2016 I get both of these jokes, where's that put me on the nerd scale?
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 02:40 |
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Joementum posted:Best suggestion I've seen so far for a replacement: You know, that's honestly not a terrible choice. Say what you want about Mitt but he's a fairly honest guy and could definitely handle FIFA.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 03:04 |
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Relentlessboredomm posted:You know, that's honestly not a terrible choice. Say what you want about Mitt but he's a fairly honest guy and could definitely handle FIFA. It's not like he hasn't (supposedly) done it before.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 03:32 |
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SubponticatePoster posted:They should make a nice piece of furniture out of that so it's not totally wasted. Uhhhmmmm, decomposition isn't waste buddy. Check your anthropocentrism.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 03:53 |
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How does one destroy or whittle down the Koch Brothers?
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 04:03 |
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This was heard second hand, but apparently John Kerry would be near the top of his age bracket, worldwide, if he regularly competed in races. Here's to hoping he can recover.
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Grouchio posted:How does one destroy or whittle down the Koch Brothers? Ignore their money.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 04:14 |
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SubponticatePoster posted:I get both of these jokes, where's that put me on the nerd scale? 4 Wonkos out of 10.
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:It was obviously an unspeakably awful situation for her but unfortunately I think that a strong appeals system that is flexible for the defendant is extremely important, if only for the fact that court proceedings are already weighed against poor minorities (who of course make up a majority of defendants) I think there's a lot of daylight between "strong appeals system" and "having a re-trial and dragging all the witnesses back in". Especially when there's not a jury. Sure, if there's blatant malfeasance or major new evidence coming to light, I get the need for a retrial but there's nothing to indicate that that happened here (or at least I've seen nothing about the reason for the retrial). Amergin posted:How is her art stunt a part of her "new life" in which she's trying to "move on" though? You're confusing the Columbia victims here - the one who was originally successful in her accusation but had it overturned because she didn't want to go through the whole thing again in appeals is not the one carrying the mattress around. Boon posted:Reminder that earlier last month everyone was rooting for the USA FREEDOM Act and were disappointed when it seemed dead because it was not the PATRIOT act. Right but in the meantime, the Patriot Act was successfully challenged in court and then expired. So the frame of reference changed a bit. Radbot posted:Let's try and stay on topic - this one particular case. Well we're talking about a wide time gap. The assault "allegedly" happened August 2012, she didn't report it to Columbia until April 2013, and after she was dissatisfied with Columbia's handling, she went to the police in May of 2014. She didn't start carrying the mattress until Sept. 2014. It's not unrealistic to say that her ability and willingness to speak about it changed over that time period, both due to time passing and due to not having success making her case with the university or the cops. Her willingness and ability to face her trauma enough to carry a mattress around in September 2014 doesn't say much about her state of mind and ability to go to the cops two years previously (because going within a few days of the rape is the best shot, right?).
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 04:44 |
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Nintendo Kid posted:Ignore their money.
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Bel Shazar posted:4 Wonkos out of 10. Strange measuring system.
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Bel Shazar posted:4 Wonkos out of 10. Lotka Volterra posted:Uhhhmmmm, decomposition isn't waste buddy. Check your anthropocentrism. Actually I was figuring some tree removal company would chop it up and sell it for firewood or something like that.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 05:03 |
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Seems like there would be quite a bit of value in "white house wood" on ebay or with woodworkers.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 05:08 |
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taqueso posted:Seems like there would be quite a bit of value in "white house wood" on ebay or with woodworkers. Depends how hard and what kind of stain it takes.
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 05:16 |
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I prefer a dark mahogany for my wood
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# ? Jun 3, 2015 05:33 |
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taqueso posted:"white house wood" Sounds like a sequel to "Who's Nailin' Palin"
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White House Would
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Another notable "No" vote on the FREEDOM Act was Sen. Tammy Baldwin's, thereby upholding the proud Wisconsin tradition of being the only Senate Democrat to vote "No" on such things. http://www.baldwin.senate.gov/press-releases/senator-tammy-baldwin-statement-on-usa-freedom-act
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