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Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy

Inept posted:

I quit my job and sold my car and it somehow took me a year and a half to make another one of those monthly box of random poo poo ordering websites:


https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/388dc6/a_year_and_a_half_ago_i_quit_my_job_and_sold_my/

Brilliant ideas so far: selling 4 snacks for $14, and 8 for $29. But the 8 snacks are higher quality. But he doesn't say that anywhere on the site.

And of course, this is on the front page of Reddit because entrepreneurial spirit!

I kinda like the premise to be honest. It's expensive as poo poo so I'd never buy into it but the concept is interesting.

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Knyteguy
Jul 6, 2005

YES to love
NO to shirts


Toilet Rascal

Inept posted:

I quit my job and sold my car and it somehow took me a year and a half to make another one of those monthly box of random poo poo ordering websites:


https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/388dc6/a_year_and_a_half_ago_i_quit_my_job_and_sold_my/

Brilliant ideas so far: selling 4 snacks for $14, and 8 for $29. But the 8 snacks are higher quality. But he doesn't say that anywhere on the site.

And of course, this is on the front page of Reddit because entrepreneurial spirit!

I actually think this is a cool premise, but yes bad implementation so far. You can also kinda use World Market for something similar.

This person should have put their site up on an instantly scalable server before going public with this. Reddit seems to have knocked the site down costing them who knows how much in sales. Hindsight 20/20 and all but ouch.

I want a candy package from ISIS personally.

Inept
Jul 8, 2003

The problem with all of the random bag of crap-esque sites is that people eventually realize that they're getting cheap junk that they don't like. Imagine Germany's equivalent of Tootsie Rolls. (also I don't care if you like Tootsie Rolls, the point is that they're cheap filler) They tend to come and go quickly.

Aside from that, the guy quit his job even though he probably could have just worked on this site in his free time or tried to reduce his hours since he was a bartender, and there is already at least one site that does the same thing: http://www.universalyums.com/product/yum-yum-box-subscription

Seriously I bet this guy is done in about 18 months.

Inept fucked around with this message at 23:53 on Jun 2, 2015

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

Knyteguy posted:

I actually think this is a cool premise, but yes bad implementation so far. You can also kinda use World Market for something similar.

This person should have put their site up on an instantly scalable server before going public with this. Reddit seems to have knocked the site down costing them who knows how much in sales. Hindsight 20/20 and all but ouch.

I want a candy package from ISIS personally.

"Pop Rocks, Mentos, Diet Coke, and instructions to take them all at once? Don't mind if I do!"

FrozenVent
May 1, 2009

The Boeing 737-200QC is the undisputed workhorse of the skies.
My favourite box of crap site is the one that sends you a box of five pairs of socks every months for $45.

Because I go through sixty pairs of socks a year.

Blinkman987
Jul 10, 2008

Gender roles guilt me into being fat.
He would make a mint if all he did was distribute UK Cadbury chocolate, but I think he runs afoul of Nestle there who licenses the Cadbury name here and is stopping the distribution of UK Cadbury chocolate (because it's way better than the Nestle poo poo).

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender

Inept posted:

The problem with all of the random bag of crap-esque sites is that people eventually realize that they're getting cheap junk that they don't like. Imagine Germany's equivalent of Tootsie Rolls. (also I don't care if you like Tootsie Rolls, the point is that they're cheap filler) They tend to come and go quickly.
The novelty of international snacks also wears off fairly quickly, even if they're good snacks. It doesn't take long to go from ":swoon: exotic snacks!" to "there's how much left?". I don't regret the international snack exchanges I've done, but it's definitely more of a once a year thing than a once a month thing.

Inept posted:

Aside from that, the guy quit his job even though he probably could have just worked on this site in his free time or tried to reduce his hours since he was a bartender, and there is already at least one site that does the same thing: http://www.universalyums.com/product/yum-yum-box-subscription
At least one? I see at least three that are similar, and a whole lot more that are focused on one country.

Krispy Wafer
Jul 26, 2002

I shouted out "Free the exposed 67"
But they stood on my hair and told me I was fat

Grimey Drawer

Inept posted:

The problem with all of the random bag of crap-esque sites is that people eventually realize that they're getting cheap junk that they don't like. Imagine Germany's equivalent of Tootsie Rolls. (also I don't care if you like Tootsie Rolls, the point is that they're cheap filler) They tend to come and go quickly.

Depends on how well the company can negotiate. I got my wife BirchBox for Christmas, so every month she gets her package with random lip gloss, dry shampoo, and other lady stuff. In this case, BirchBox probably pays next to nothing for the contents because this is direct marketing for the suppliers.

But this probably only works if you can get the stuff for cheap. Unless chewy Deutschlandrolls wants to break into the U.S. market, he's going to be paying retail to fill his boxes with treats.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Inverse Icarus posted:

That's what I keep trying to tell my dad but it's like talking to a racist, conservative wall. Free healthcare and foodstamps is pro-small-business!

A couple of VC friends told me, pre-Obamacare, that the startups they funded in Canada had an easier time attracting experienced candidates because running without employer insurance for a while wasn't rolling the dice with permanent poverty or untreated medical conditions for their family.

Suspicious Lump
Mar 11, 2004

Inept posted:

I quit my job and sold my car and it somehow took me a year and a half to make another one of those monthly box of random poo poo ordering websites:


https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/388dc6/a_year_and_a_half_ago_i_quit_my_job_and_sold_my/

Brilliant ideas so far: selling 4 snacks for $14, and 8 for $29. But the 8 snacks are higher quality. But he doesn't say that anywhere on the site.

And of course, this is on the front page of Reddit because entrepreneurial spirit!
What gets me about a lot of AMA on reddit is they are thinnly disguised propaganda for their new venture. Who loving gives a poo poo, the link is in the first post straight away.

the talent deficit
Dec 20, 2003

self-deprecation is a very british trait, and problems can arise when the british attempt to do so with a foreign culture





FrozenVent posted:

My favourite box of crap site is the one that sends you a box of five pairs of socks every months for $45.

Because I go through sixty pairs of socks a year.

agreed, unironically

SpelledBackwards
Jan 7, 2001

I found this image on the Internet, perhaps you've heard of it? It's been around for a while I hear.

I miss that startup which never got of the ground which was going to send $15 of rolled quarters every month for laundry/vending usage for the low price of $20. Eliminate inconvenient bank runs!

MJBuddy
Sep 22, 2008

Now I do not know whether I was then a head coach dreaming I was a Saints fan, or whether I am now a Saints fan, dreaming I am a head coach.

SpelledBackwards posted:

I miss that startup which never got of the ground which was going to send $15 of rolled quarters every month for laundry/vending usage for the low price of $20. Eliminate inconvenient bank runs!

This person took money laundering too literally.

Renegret
May 26, 2007

THANK YOU FOR CALLING HELP DOG, INC.

YOUR POSITION IN THE QUEUE IS *pbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbt*


Cat Army Sworn Enemy
It's a clever idea if you want to separate idiots from their money.

Barry
Aug 1, 2003

Hardened Criminal

Suspicious Lump posted:

What gets me about a lot of AMA on reddit is they are thinnly disguised propaganda for their new venture. Who loving gives a poo poo, the link is in the first post straight away.

It's especially worse when they go on to pollute completely unrelated subreddits with their advertising. A year back some guy was selling candles and made a post in /r/pics every few months basically just showing candles and shipping boxes. That's the kind of cool content I want to see when browsing a subreddit (ostensibly) about cool pictures.

It also turns out that he wasn't actually very good at running his business.

http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/26pkug/after_starting_a_candle_company_while_high_doing/
http://www.reddit.com/r/trees/comments/1hvo7y/i_did_an_ama_a_couple_weeks_ago_about/

Barry fucked around with this message at 15:30 on Jun 3, 2015

BonerGhost
Mar 9, 2007

Renegret posted:

It's a clever idea if you want to separate idiots from their money.

Not really. If you're too lazy to go to the bank, you're too lazy to sign up for this service, and if you put it off to the last minute because you don't have the cash in your pocket, you're not signing up for any auto delivery either.

Space Gopher
Jul 31, 2006

BLITHERING IDIOT AND HARDCORE DURIAN APOLOGIST. LET ME TELL YOU WHY THIS SHIT DON'T STINK EVEN THOUGH WE ALL KNOW IT DOES BECAUSE I'M SUPER CULTURED.

Renegret posted:

It's a clever idea if you want to separate idiots from their money.

Not really. Credit card companies will not let you give out cash for a credit transaction - that's their turf and they want to protect the sweet, sweet interest they get to start charging instantly on cash advances.

In an amazing coincidence, the laundry quarters startup folded because of "issues" with payment processing.

Devian666
Aug 20, 2008

Take some advice Chris.

Fun Shoe
Bad with money is asking for investment advice from bitcointalk.org.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1003429.0

quote:

Is it better to save money in bank or invest it online, in real estate or maybe gold?

quote:

better to invest in bitcoin, gold maybe more secure, but bitcoin has more potential to grow

saving money in the bank, will only mean losing them in the long-term with the current high inflation

quote:

I would choose for spreaded investments. Leave 70% of your money in your bank, and invest 15% in Bitcoin and the other 15% in something like a Bitcoin startup.

quote:

If you are content with low returns then it is probably best to save your money in a low interest account. It will be insured and is 'safe'.
Gold is a solid investment, the price is quite low at the moment, it seems like a safe long term investment, not very fungible though.

Bitcoin is dangerous, you could lose most of your money quickly, you could also make lots of money. It is fungible, if you can handle the stress of big price swings, it is a good investment in my opinion.

I wouldn't put all my eggs in one basket. I personally am long oil at the moment, I can ride out the overproduction dip, but it won't stay at $50-60 for long, I am willing to bet on that!

Haifisch
Nov 13, 2010

Objection! I object! That was... objectionable!



Taco Defender
Well, gold is a solid investment. If you want a liquid investment metal, try mercury instead.


I skipped to the last page, and most of it devolved into "banks are evil and dumb" talk, but there were still some gems.

quote:

Just saw this thread... jesus... 25 pages of advice... did the topic starter really read all this?
My humble suggestion would be: short term keep fiat.... middle term: gold/silver.... long term: bitcoin.
Very long term.... bitcoin or 2 generation of bitcoin.

The last one can be a little tricky since now is it imposible to know what will be 2nd generation of bitcoin... no one knows, it is too much of a gamble, so stick to nornal rear end bitcoins.

Tamarillo
Aug 6, 2009
My aunt literally invested in a gold mine and it's just been like throwing money down a never ending hole. She has invested several hundred thousand dollars (borrowed) and hadn't seen a cent back but it's all about the power of positive belief and the convicted fraudster who is managing the mine set up is just misunderstood.

She lives entirely off a stipend from my grandparents now who have grumpily told her it's coming out of her section of their will.

Cast_No_Shadow
Jun 8, 2010

The Republic of Luna Equestria is a huge, socially progressive nation, notable for its punitive income tax rates. Its compassionate, cynical population of 714m are ruled with an iron fist by the dictatorship government, which ensures that no-one outside the party gets too rich.

Every single I invested in X and got ruined story can be simply summed up with.

You did not understand diversification. Seriously the concept of spreading out risk should be taught every single year of school.

Suspicious Lump
Mar 11, 2004

Barry posted:

It's especially worse when they go on to pollute completely unrelated subreddits with their advertising. A year back some guy was selling candles and made a post in /r/pics every few months basically just showing candles and shipping boxes. That's the kind of cool content I want to see when browsing a subreddit (ostensibly) about cool pictures.

It also turns out that he wasn't actually very good at running his business.

http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/comments/26pkug/after_starting_a_candle_company_while_high_doing/
http://www.reddit.com/r/trees/comments/1hvo7y/i_did_an_ama_a_couple_weeks_ago_about/
Holy mackerel, this is crazy. He's even deleted his account. I would be posting abuse in that second thread.

SpelledBackwards
Jan 7, 2001

I found this image on the Internet, perhaps you've heard of it? It's been around for a while I hear.

GTAT is going to bounce back and my family will be well cared for when it does.

I cannot have your toxic negativity in my life and must unfriend you. I'm sorry. But really, I'm sorry that you have such a terrible outlook on life, rather than looking inward for your own reward and happiness.

OldMemes
Sep 5, 2011

I have to go now. My planet needs me.

BarbarianElephant posted:

I heard a theory once that the UK had so many great rock bands in the '60s and '70s because the welfare state was so generous you could basically start up a band and get the dole until it took off (if it ever took off.) Most bands were no-hopers but some made it huge, which continued paying off for the country for years. This is also one of the reason why Scandinavia is punching above its weight in business and the creative industries; people aren't afraid to take risks, because a generous government will pick up the pieces if they fail.

It's a hard sell to taxpayers, though. "Let's fund a load of idiots pissing around pretending to be authors/musicians/entrepreneurs/actors with your cash earned as a wage slave, because one day a small percentage of them will make it big."

Then they all put the money they made doing music in offshore tax havens, so the UK government didn't get a penny back!

The UK is not a socialist paradise - you get the dole to stop you starving. If you say "I'm not going to bother to get a job because my band will take off!" rather than "I have a band in my spare time" then EVERYONE will hate you here, reagrdless of class or background. I'm not sure whoever came up with that idea has ever been to the UK.

BarbarianElephant
Feb 12, 2015
The fairy of forgiveness has removed your red text.

OldMemes posted:

Then they all put the money they made doing music in offshore tax havens, so the UK government didn't get a penny back!

Some of 'em.

Did you know that J.K. Rowling wrote large parts of the first Harry Potter while on government benefits?

OldMemes posted:

The UK is not a socialist paradise - you get the dole to stop you starving. If you say "I'm not going to bother to get a job because my band will take off!" rather than "I have a band in my spare time" then EVERYONE will hate you here, reagrdless of class or background. I'm not sure whoever came up with that idea has ever been to the UK.

This is why they closed that loophole. Everyone hated it.

spog
Aug 7, 2004

It's your own bloody fault.

BarbarianElephant posted:

Some of 'em.

Did you know that J.K. Rowling wrote large parts of the first Harry Potter while on government benefits?

And she refuses to use any tax avoidance schemes because of that:

quote:

I chose to remain a domiciled taxpayer for a couple of reasons. The main one was that I wanted my children to grow up where I grew up, to have proper roots in a culture as old and magnificent as Britain’s; to be citizens, with everything that implies, of a real country, not free-floating ex-pats, living in the limbo of some tax haven and associating only with the children of similarly greedy tax exiles.

A second reason, however, was that I am indebted to the British welfare state; the very one that Mr Cameron would like to replace with charity handouts. When my life hit rock bottom, that safety net, threadbare though it had become under John Major’s Government, was there to break the fall. I cannot help feeling, therefore, that it would have been contemptible to scarper for the West Indies at the first sniff of a seven-figure royalty cheque. This, if you like, is my notion of patriotism. On the available evidence, I suspect that it is Lord Ashcroft’s idea of being a mug.

I have a lot of respect for her.

Whereas Bono and U2 move their corporate headquarters from Ireland to tax havens, whilst berating governments for not doing more to support the needy.

MAKE NO BABBYS
Jan 28, 2010

Space Gopher posted:

Not really. Credit card companies will not let you give out cash for a credit transaction - that's their turf and they want to protect the sweet, sweet interest they get to start charging instantly on cash advances.

In an amazing coincidence, the laundry quarters startup folded because of "issues" with payment processing.

You sure about that? I'm pretty positive they're still kicking here in SF, but I believe they also do pick up and drop off for wash n fold now as well.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

OldMemes posted:

Then they all put the money they made doing music in offshore tax havens, so the UK government didn't get a penny back!

The UK is not a socialist paradise - you get the dole to stop you starving. If you say "I'm not going to bother to get a job because my band will take off!" rather than "I have a band in my spare time" then EVERYONE will hate you here, reagrdless of class or background. I'm not sure whoever came up with that idea has ever been to the UK.

While everything you said is true so is the dole-artists thing. I know at least four or five in my small town alone who openly spent the eighties claiming while working on their art and music. Yes everyone hated them, no they didn't give a poo poo because hey free dope money. Nearly everyone else in our pit town was on the dole at the same time anyway.

There was another arts funding initiative in the mid-Thatcher years which basically promised a grand no string attached to anyone with a business proposal. A lot of musicians got their start from that, some you'd recognise like The Specials.

Rythe
Jan 21, 2011

Anybody have any stories or experience with Vector Marketing? My cousin, who is a sophomore in college, just asked to set up an appointment to sales pitch me some knives. After reading this thread for so long the alarm bells triggered.

ladyweapon
Nov 6, 2010

It reads all over his face,
like he's an Italian.

Rythe posted:

Anybody have any stories or experience with Vector Marketing? My cousin, who is a sophomore in college, just asked to set up an appointment to sales pitch me some knives. After reading this thread for so long the alarm bells triggered.

It's a MLM scam. Your cousin is going to try and sell you on several hundred dollars worth of knives that aren't worth that much money. They're decent knives, but not $500+ for a set. He'll make next to nothing in commission even if he does sell.

e: totally forgot they make you buy your own set of demo knives (at a discount, lol) and don't pay you for training. Oh and there's the conferences you technically don't have to attend and nothing is reimbursed.

ladyweapon fucked around with this message at 03:05 on Jun 5, 2015

sat on my keys!
Oct 2, 2014

Rythe posted:

Anybody have any stories or experience with Vector Marketing? My cousin, who is a sophomore in college, just asked to set up an appointment to sales pitch me some knives. After reading this thread for so long the alarm bells triggered.

There was a MLM thread in GBS (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3708526&userid=0&perpage=40) that had a bunch of Vector anecdotes.

HelloIAmYourHeart
Dec 29, 2008
Fallen Rib
Not Reddit, for a change: OP uses his company credit card for personal use, racks up $20k balance.

quote:

A reader writes:

The short version of the story is that I genuinely misunderstood the way my corporate credit card was to be used. I have been using it over the last few years regularly for personal reasons, including medical, car payments (a car is required for my job, but not covered under expenses), and general personal shopping. My girlfriend did not have income for two years, and I used the card to cover expenses beyond my paycheck.

I can use PayPal to get cash out of the card and into my bank account, so what I have been doing is waiting until the bill is due (a new billing cycle) and taking out that amount with PayPal, then using the cash to pay it off, plus adding in my own money to try and reduce the balance a little. This just means I get charged PayPal fees for the cash advance, and it means nothing more is due until the next billing cycle. This results in the next month having that balance plus charges, minus any and all money I can put toward it out of my pay (generally $2,000 a month).

Somehow I have managed to rack up a rolling balance of $20,000 on this card and I can’t ever pay it all off in one go. I had a bankruptcy a few years ago and cannot qualify for a loan to cover the full amount.

I am scared to bring it up with my manager because it might mean I will lose my job once they realize what’s been happening, and if I lose my job I will no longer be able to contribute the $2,000 each month toward paying the balance off. Some people even have suggested I might be up for serious legal problems, and I just feel so stressed out every single day about the situation.

It gets worse from there.

http://www.askamanager.org/2015/06/i-racked-up-20000-in-personal-charges-on-my-company-credit-card.html#comments

Rudager
Apr 29, 2008

HelloIAmYourHeart posted:

Not Reddit, for a change: OP uses his company credit card for personal use, racks up $20k balance.


It gets worse from there.

http://www.askamanager.org/2015/06/i-racked-up-20000-in-personal-charges-on-my-company-credit-card.html#comments

Sounds like the company is pretty terrible with money too, do they not reconcile the company cards ever? I don't get how the company credit card was supposed to work at all even if they weren't putting personal expenses onto it since clearly they don't just pay the balance each month since there's $20k sitting on it they're not paying off, and if they just blindly paid what they got receipts for they wouldn't cover any interest or fee's.

I don't know, I'm confused.

EDIT:

quote:

The orginal plan was to use the money for a deposit on a car, and once the car was paid off, I would then have the car as an asset, which I could use as security on a loan, which I could use to pay off the card. All was going to plan, but the car got written off due to the engine totally breaking down after a month, so I then had to get another deposit on a second car. That was also ok until one day while at a red light a semi-truck smashed it up , and that second car was nearly paid off but then it got writen off as well. Luckily, for the second car I did have insurance, but the insurance company only agreed to pay out the remaining balance on that car loan and so I was again carless. Third car deposit, and four years later I am feeling trapped in this cycle where I am getting about $600 in PayPal fees every month.

Holy poo poo :psyduck: maybe they shouldn't work in a job that requires a lot of driving around....

Rudager fucked around with this message at 03:56 on Jun 5, 2015

Omne
Jul 12, 2003

Orangedude Forever

Rudager posted:

Sounds like the company is pretty terrible with money too, do they not reconcile the company cards ever? I don't get how the company credit card was supposed to work at all even if they weren't putting personal expenses onto it since clearly they don't just pay the balance each month since there's $20k sitting on it they're not paying off, and if they just blindly paid what they got receipts for they wouldn't cover any interest or fee's.

I don't know, I'm confused.

EDIT:


Holy poo poo :psyduck: maybe they shouldn't work in a job that requires a lot of driving around....

At least for me, my corporate credit card is my own card. I charge things, I pay the balance myself. I can submit reimbursable expenses to teh company, who verifies the receipts and cuts me a check, which I then use to pay off the balance. The company doesn't actively monitor the card, it's all on me to take care of it.

Which is why I leave it in a drawer and use my own card to cover non-airfare expenses. At least I'll get points.

Rudager
Apr 29, 2008

Omne posted:

At least for me, my corporate credit card is my own card. I charge things, I pay the balance myself. I can submit reimbursable expenses to teh company, who verifies the receipts and cuts me a check, which I then use to pay off the balance. The company doesn't actively monitor the card, it's all on me to take care of it.

Which is why I leave it in a drawer and use my own card to cover non-airfare expenses. At least I'll get points.

Oh, guess it's different in different places, here someone reconciles all the company cards with the receipts every month and if it all balances out, pays off the card.

Desuwa
Jun 2, 2011

I'm telling my mommy. That pubbie doesn't do video games right!
I've got a corporate card that's heavily monitored, every expense must have a receipt, explanation, or pre-approval. Though I can see people using company cards for emergencies where it's the only way to pay and then getting it cleared up with the company later. I imagine most companies would probably be cool with that as long as everything was out in the open.

Also isn't using a credit card to pay off the balance of a credit card, especially itself, illegal? No matter how indirectly you do it?

Part of it is on his company though, even if they'd be completely in the right to fire him and leave him with 20k in debt. They could have realized what a moron he was years earlier if they followed through on checking the card monthly when it wasn't fully paid off; it would have been better for both him and the company.

Devian666
Aug 20, 2008

Take some advice Chris.

Fun Shoe

Omne posted:

At least for me, my corporate credit card is my own card. I charge things, I pay the balance myself. I can submit reimbursable expenses to teh company, who verifies the receipts and cuts me a check, which I then use to pay off the balance. The company doesn't actively monitor the card, it's all on me to take care of it.

Which is why I leave it in a drawer and use my own card to cover non-airfare expenses. At least I'll get points.

I suspect that the guy may be in this position as the card is just a corporate card that's effectively his liability. That may be the case but it almost feels like he might be loving himself over. I just don't know what the terms and conditions of those corporate cards are.

AMEX only seem to do corporate charge cards and not credit cards but I found their terms and conditions.

quote:

3 LIABILITY FOR CHARGES You agree to use the Card for bona fide business expenses
which are in accordance with the Company’s business expense policies. The Company
shall be fully liable to American Express for all Charges incurred on the account. .
4 LIABILITY FOR UNAUTHORISED CHARGES The Company is liable for Unauthorised
Charges in the following circumstances only:
• If you or the Company fail to comply with these Conditions or to protect your codes as
required under “Use of the Card”;
• Where you or the Company contributed to, were in any way involved in or benefitted
from the theft, loss or misuse of the Card; and/or
• Where you or the Company failed to notify us as required under the “Lost, Stolen or
Misused Card” section.
Otherwise, the Company is not liable for Unauthorised Charges. For example, if you or the
Company gave your Card and/or codes to another person to use, or if either of you
contributed to, were in any way involved in or benefitted from the theft, loss or misuse of
the Card, then the Company would be liable for any Unauthorised Charges.

The company is liable and the company needs to notify the provider of any misuse on the card. He's in a heap of poo poo if the agreement for the corporate card looks anything like this.

Devian666 fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Jun 5, 2015

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

Omne posted:

At least for me, my corporate credit card is my own card. I charge things, I pay the balance myself. I can submit reimbursable expenses to teh company, who verifies the receipts and cuts me a check, which I then use to pay off the balance. The company doesn't actively monitor the card, it's all on me to take care of it.

Which is why I leave it in a drawer and use my own card to cover non-airfare expenses. At least I'll get points.

This setup makes no sense to me. There's literally no upside to using the corporate card unless you're an idiot that enjoys filling out expense reports and getting no benefit from it (which you've obviously figured out, this is aimed more at your employer).

I suppose it might be useful if you can't otherwise get a credit card, but I would hope a company wouldn't hand out corporate cards of this nature without running a credit check on the employee, which just circles back to my first point.

Zo
Feb 22, 2005

LIKE A FOX

Ornamented Death posted:

This setup makes no sense to me. There's literally no upside to using the corporate card unless you're an idiot that enjoys filling out expense reports and getting no benefit from it (which you've obviously figured out, this is aimed more at your employer).

I suppose it might be useful if you can't otherwise get a credit card, but I would hope a company wouldn't hand out corporate cards of this nature without running a credit check on the employee, which just circles back to my first point.

Yea i dont think most people would call that a corporate car.


Hey guys i got a company car. I even picked it out myself. Well, i also put the down payment on it. Yea i make the monthly payments too. Oh yea the loan is in my name as well.

But company car!!!

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Anza Borrego
Feb 11, 2005

Ovis canadensis nelsoni
Holy poo poo, that is such an inconceivable situation to be in. Not only is that guy getting fired, I'd wager that he is going to go to jail as well.

What blows my mind - beyond the fact that no one has audited him to discover this in four loving years - is that he is accumulating $600/mo in balance transfer fees in the shell game system he has rigged up. That person is in deep, deep poo poo.

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