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Applebees posted:Wizards doesn't restrict anyone from hosting Magic tournaments. An organizer could host a tournament with a $1000 buy-in just like poker tournaments if they wanted to. I mean they do when it comes to sanctioned events.
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Ciprian Maricon posted:I mean they do when it comes to sanctioned events. Right, but that only determines whether or not players receive Planeswalker Points. I didn't hear people complain that Vegas gave out a small amount of Planeswalker Points. The complaints were about low cash prizes.
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Jun 3, 2015 22:52
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I imagine their costs on product are somewhat lower, too. Drafted a sweet B/W spirits deck, btw: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/567347/mtg/spirits.png
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Jun 3, 2015 22:54
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So you may remember my foil Tarn that was apparently run over by a rollerblade and sold as LP. Well everything turned out ok; the guy saw reason, I got a $20 refund and now I don't feel like I got robbed. 
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Jun 3, 2015 23:03
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I don't see Wizards doing poo poo about prize pools for the same reason I don't see them making serious investments into anything related to the game - the actual material costs in MTG are probably negligible (its cardboard), so its likely difficult to convince the corporate overlords (who are toy makers, not game makers) to spend more money when they're already selling out of a run of $10 cardboard boxes that contain other pieces of cardboard inside.
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Jun 3, 2015 23:10
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suicidesteve posted:So you may remember my foil Tarn that was apparently run over by a rollerblade and sold as LP. Well everything turned out ok; the guy saw reason, I got a $20 refund and now I don't feel like I got robbed. Lol it was a shoe but rollerblade does sound funnier.
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Jun 3, 2015 23:13
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Angry Grimace posted:I don't see Wizards doing poo poo about prize pools for the same reason I don't see them making serious investments into anything related to the game - the actual material costs in MTG are probably negligible (its cardboard), so its likely difficult to convince the corporate overlords (who are toy makers, not game makers) to spend more money when they're already selling out of a run of $10 cardboard boxes that contain other pieces of cardboard inside. Actually, hasbro is bumping up investment big time, since magic is a huge cash cow and has shown consistent growth for them. According to their shareholder statements they are expanding investment in: - Character and story basis. I see this kicking off with Origins in a big way. Characters drive loyalty and retention. - Digital. We know modo sucks and adding features to it takes 5x as long as it should. Probably they're gearing up Duels, which is going to a quarterly expansion model. R&D wise, I think they're in a pretty decent groove. Standard is great right now, and having two rotations a year is a big deal. On the organized play side, I've found the pptq system tiresome personally but I think wotc finds it a huge success. GP attendance is skyrocketing and I can see them expanding the number of them next year. They will probably increase the payouts a bit to say that they did but not in a way that makes an actual difference.
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Jun 3, 2015 23:26
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Applebees posted:Wizards doesn't restrict anyone from hosting Magic tournaments. An organizer could host a tournament with a $1000 buy-in just like poker tournaments if they wanted to. I'm surprised this hasn't been done, there probably were 7 degenerate gamblers in Las Vegas willing to take on LSV in a $1k a seat draft.
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Jun 4, 2015 00:20
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mr. mephistopheles posted:When you average it out, but when you account for a giant chunk of that total value being mythics your odds of making your money back are much, much slimmer. Some math nerd on MTGS did a long breakdown and the odds of breaking even were pretty abysmal. Thinking about this again, MM15 has lowers prices somewhat, but not as much as Conspiracy did last year for certain cards. Stifle, Pernicious Deed, Misdirection, Exploration, Reflecting Pool were all 20 dollar cards that had their price bottom out to 3-5 bucks and it has stayed there, while it only added 1 new value card, maybe 2 (Dack and Council's Judgement.) Conspiracy packs were also regular retail value. This could be that the  pricepoint had made people wary to sell anything at a greatly lower price because of "my value!"
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Jun 4, 2015 00:28
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GoutPatrol posted:maybe 2 (Dack and Council's Judgement.) Council's Judgment sees eternal format play because it's basically "exile a permanent of your choice" and being able to get rid of a True-Name Nemesis in addition to any other problem card is worth 3 mana sometimes. Dack sees Vintage and Legacy play as well because he can steal the crazy-rear end artifacts everyone plays and filters cards.
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Jun 4, 2015 00:43
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Count Bleck posted:Why the gently caress is Omniscience 30 dollars Jesus Christ! (goes and finds random copy in binder and quickly puts it in a sleeve)
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Jun 4, 2015 00:46
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Zoness posted:I imagine the name was pulled from some trademark listings or something which was how Mirrodin Pure / New Phyrexia were pulled in the first place. Even if it wasn't, I think it's pretty reasonable to assume that if someone has the art assets for the cards (which I think is definitely the case, that art looks legitimate even if the cards don't) that they'd have access to the names.
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Jun 4, 2015 00:50
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I'm sorry, how much was Noble Hierarch? 35? It's 40 now. Kill me. 
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The guy next to me, at Vegas, registered a pool containing a foil Hierarch, a Kozilek and a VClique. A value pool with bombs. He also forgot his playmat, of which I dropped off with a Judge. Edit: I passed him a sick pool of Primetime, Ulamog and a bunch of ramp/support. -_- Of course I was passed garbage, that's how it works. fuckingwhocares fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Jun 4, 2015 |
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Jun 4, 2015 01:37
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I'm still amazed how often people let me have Mirror Entity in MM2015. It's disgusting if you're playing a deck with creatures in it. The only cards I imagine are bigger bombs are Bitterblossom and Elesh Norn, neither of which I played nor have a clue how you'd beat. Count Bleck posted:I'm sorry, how much was Noble Hierarch? 35? What's Creakwood Liege up to, because I got 5 of those 
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Jun 4, 2015 01:48
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:"...Probably they're gearing up Duels, which is going to a quarterly expansion model." This is good news. I hear that the newer versions of Duels are not that great though. If I were to buy one, which should I get? Is 2015 the defacto version to get expansions or does WotC have plans to release a new game and build upon that?
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Rukawa posted:The guy next to me, at Vegas, registered a pool containing a foil Hierarch, a Kozilek and a VClique. A value pool with bombs. I loved passing Iona and Cryptic for a Cranial Plating and Fulminator Mage. I hated my pool so bad (literally forced into Affinity with an all-in on Equipment) I just dropped after a round 1 loss and went to Table 10 for lunch.
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Angry Grimace posted:I'm still amazed how often people let me have Mirror Entity in MM2015. It's disgusting if you're playing a deck with creatures in it. The only cards I imagine are bigger bombs are Bitterblossom and Elesh Norn, neither of which I played nor have a clue how you'd beat. Yeah, I got blowed the gently caress out multiple times with tokens into Entity.
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I recommend this week's CEDTalks, with Cedric Phillips and Gerry Thompson. Their take on GoyfGate is great, and Cedric even explains why he didn't like Mad Max, which basically amounts to "way too hyped for me, was still a fine movie." Edit: Also I don't follow Modern much, but it seems like the scarcity of Kolaghan's Command wasn't some price-spiking conspiracy, but that the card is the real deal in Modern, and has basically become a staple in Grixis Control and Jund, which are the top decks now? Ced and Gerry seem to conclude that the card just makes Affinity unplayable now. qbert fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Jun 4, 2015 |
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Angry Grimace posted:I'm still amazed how often people let me have Mirror Entity in MM2015. It's disgusting if you're playing a deck with creatures in it. The only cards I imagine are bigger bombs are Bitterblossom and Elesh Norn, neither of which I played nor have a clue how you'd beat. Liege is like 4?
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Propitious Jerk posted:This is good news. I hear that the newer versions of Duels are not that great though. If I were to buy one, which should I get? Is 2015 the defacto version to get expansions or does WotC have plans to release a new game and build upon that? It's gonna be a new thing.
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Store was gonna do a dragons draft! But no one signed up because they were all drafting modern masters. Modern masters is the worst. I've got most of the components for esper dragons. I just need ojutai and three more temples of enlightenment. Which is an awful lot. Blegh. I'll probably save my money and wait for origins.
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qbert posted:I recommend this week's CEDTalks, with Cedric Phillips and Gerry Thompson. Their take on GoyfGate is great, and Cedric even explains why he didn't like Mad Max, which basically amounts to "way too hyped for me, was still a fine movie." Gerry's twitch streams are pretty great. He only recently started streaming regularly.
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Dohaeris posted:Store was gonna do a dragons draft! But no one signed up because they were all drafting modern masters. Modern masters is the worst. On tcgplayer that's 32 bucks total right now.
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Jun 4, 2015 02:22
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Just learned my LGS is doing its first Modern GPT and I can't go because my school's graduation is the same day. I will never get to play Modern as much as I want.
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GoutPatrol posted:Just learned my LGS is doing its first Modern GPT and I can't go because my school's graduation is the same day. I will never get to play Modern as much as I want. I've played once since September, and it was a bad store with mostly not real decks and a few people playing Infect. Of course I played 5x+ a month and vintage monthly, so, y'know, that's infinitely better.
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Errant Gin Monks posted:On tcgplayer that's 32 bucks total right now. Well, Ojutai is still like 20-30 (And I need like, 2-4), but I can at least snag the temples I need and borrow my buddy's ojutais for a bit. Snagged the temples though, thanks!
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Why is it I can open good MM2 packs on paper but when I want to draft on MODO I open loving Overwhelming Stampede and Leyline of Sanctity? 
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Propitious Jerk posted:This is good news. I hear that the newer versions of Duels are not that great though. If I were to buy one, which should I get? Is 2015 the defacto version to get expansions or does WotC have plans to release a new game and build upon that? Uhh the next one I think. Don't get the current one that is the one everybody hates.
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Propitious Jerk posted:This is good news. I hear that the newer versions of Duels are not that great though. If I were to buy one, which should I get? Is 2015 the defacto version to get expansions or does WotC have plans to release a new game and build upon that? I believe 2013 has the broadest mod support. Might be 2014, it's been a while. Mods meaning functional addition of hundreds of cards, which is pretty neat.
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Count Bleck posted:Why is it I can open good MM2 packs on paper but when I want to draft on MODO I open loving Overwhelming Stampede and Leyline of Sanctity? I would be really happy if I opened an Overwhelming Stampede though
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Angry Grimace posted:What's Creakwood Liege up to, because I got 5 of those It's not a very good card because all it can do is beg to not get its 2/2 for 4 rear end kicked through the opponent's turn before it starts generating value, but as one of the Lieges it is guaranteed to slowly go up in value because those are goddamn magnets for casual attention and as a 3/3 generator that pumps your friends for 4 it is just close enough to playable to fool someone. Wilt-Leaf Liege is the gold-standard for Lieges because a 4/4 for 4 that pumps your friends and makes Liliana of the Veil cry miserably is actually unironically good. Though a bit overshadowed by Loxodon Smiter for the GW gently caress you discard slot since its gently caress you remand as well.
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Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:I would be really happy if I opened an Overwhelming Stampede though Someone ate up G/W tokens, all I saw was that, a Raise the Alarm, and a Kozilek's Predator. I also opened a Wolfbriar Elemental. I was pretty angry.
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Mirror Entity is the most powerful non-Mythic rare in the set and it's not even particularly close. Untap with that and any kind of board and it's just over. Edit: in limited obviously
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Count Bleck posted:Someone ate up G/W tokens, all I saw was that, a Raise the Alarm, and a Kozilek's Predator. It's certainly at its best in tokens but really that card is absurd and is a bomb as long as you can support a GG casting cost. And if you absolutely need synergy with it outside of the tokens deck, imagine being G/B and casting it after playing a Dread Drone DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Mirror Entity is the most powerful non-Mythic rare in the set and it's not even particularly close. Untap with that and any kind of board and it's just over. well yeah
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Mirror Entity is the most powerful non-Mythic rare in the set and it's not even particularly close. Untap with that and any kind of board and it's just over. Plagued rusalka 
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actually I forgot profane command was in MM15 cause it's actually that on raw power but mirror entity is arguably better because you splash it in literally any deck i guess
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Big Ol Marsh Pussy posted:It's certainly at its best in tokens but really that card is absurd and is a bomb as long as you can support a GG casting cost. And if you absolutely need synergy with it outside of the tokens deck, imagine being G/B and casting it after playing a Dread Drone I'm bad at drafting, so there's probably that.
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Overrun effects are almost always bombs. Unless they cost 7 mana and don't give trample and ask you to tap the very creatures you want to be attacking with to cast it.
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Since we are talking MM2 drafting I drafted this absurd deck last night but am absolutely positive I built it wrong so how would you guys have built it? I 2-1'd losing to an absolutely insane ramp/domain deck I allowed when I went p1p3 glint hawk idol over rampant growth after p1p1 All is Dust and p1p2 Lodestone Golem, which I also think was a mistake. I think in retrospect I'd cut one Thoughtcast for the Gust Skimmer cause the deck worked best when I got aggressive draws but I really don't know if I should have got the Sunforger in there or tried to go for the Eldrazi or not, so what do you guys think e: I cropped the picture wrong but there's an All is Dust is to the right of the Hoverguard
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