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StandardVC10
Feb 6, 2007

This avatar now 50% more dark mode compliant

DJCobol posted:



ANA 787 sitting at the Pima Air & Space Museum.

If that's the 787 I assume it is, it never actually flew for ANA, just wore their paint colors.

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simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


MrChips posted:



Good thing they didn't build this thing instead of the 787...man, it would have been a disaster. Or at least, a bigger disaster.

wdarkk
Oct 26, 2007

Friends: Protected
World: Saved
Crablettes: Eaten
Is that last one the nuclear-powered plane from Thunderbirds episode 1?

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS
Looks like it. Third from the bottom looks pretty Thunderbirdy as well.

e: it might be from UFO, the Anderson show nobody remembers

Psion fucked around with this message at 05:36 on Jun 4, 2015

Darcat
Sep 25, 2014

StandardVC10 posted:

If that's the 787 I assume it is, it never actually flew for ANA, just wore their paint colors.

If you're assuming it's the second prototype you'd be correct. It had the poo poo beat out of it in testing and now that they've given it to us Boeing is still gonna be taking a look at it eventually to see how it lasts sitting under the desert sun for years.

Anyways here's a picture of it when it was rolled across the street from DM after being defuelled

Duke Chin
Jan 11, 2002

Roger That:
MILK CRATES INBOUND

:siren::siren::siren::siren:
- FUCK THE HABS -

Darcat posted:

If you're assuming it's the second prototype you'd be correct. It had the poo poo beat out of it in testing and now that they've given it to us Boeing is still gonna be taking a look at it eventually to see how it lasts sitting under the desert sun for years.

Anyways here's a picture of it when it was rolled across the street from DM after being defuelled
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
vvvv Same bird? vvvv

Duke Chin
Jan 11, 2002

Roger That:
MILK CRATES INBOUND

:siren::siren::siren::siren:
- FUCK THE HABS -
http://i.imgur.com/JD9HK7G.webm

http://i.imgur.com/jgdMuLx.webm

http://i.imgur.com/RcSkeGd.webm

"spoooooooooooooooooky agility!"
(wish I could inline this poo poo - which is funny considering they're smaller than a gif)

freelop
Apr 28, 2013

Where we're going, we won't need fries to see





The Soviet Fire Hedgehog

A TU2 bomber loaded with 88 machine guns in order to strafe infantry soldiers.

Flikken
Oct 23, 2009

10,363 snaps and not a playoff win to show for it

freelop posted:



The Soviet Fire Hedgehog

A TU2 bomber loaded with 88 machine guns in order to strafe infantry soldiers.

88 SUB-machine guns, not particularly effective.

Bob A Feet
Aug 10, 2005
Dear diary, I got another erection today at work. SO embarrassing, but kinda hot. The CO asked me to fix up his dress uniform. I had stayed late at work to move his badges 1/8" to the left and pointed it out this morning. 1SG spanked me while the CO watched, once they caught it. Tomorrow I get to start all over again...

Duke Chin posted:

http://i.imgur.com/JD9HK7G.webm

http://i.imgur.com/jgdMuLx.webm

http://i.imgur.com/RcSkeGd.webm

"spoooooooooooooooooky agility!"
(wish I could inline this poo poo - which is funny considering they're smaller than a gif)

As much as I hate this thing landing vertical on a boat is pretty drat hard, especially for AV-8s and that since they don't have rotors. Plus the higher you get the less sight of the deck you have.

This guy nailed those landings.

A Handed Missus
Aug 6, 2012


The air force just posted lots of cool biRd pictures from the ACE exercise on their Facebook page.






https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.835882553127649.1073741855.476544242394817&type=1

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Duke Chin posted:

http://i.imgur.com/JD9HK7G.webm

http://i.imgur.com/jgdMuLx.webm

http://i.imgur.com/RcSkeGd.webm

"spoooooooooooooooooky agility!"
(wish I could inline this poo poo - which is funny considering they're smaller than a gif)

That's cool and all, but the downward muzzle still looks like a prolapsing colon.

SybilVimes
Oct 29, 2011

Bob A Feet posted:

As much as I hate this thing landing vertical on a boat is pretty drat hard, especially for AV-8s and that since they don't have rotors. Plus the higher you get the less sight of the deck you have.

This guy nailed those landings.

The fbw computer in the F-35 makes a huge difference, in hover mode the joystick just acts like a claw grab control. The AV-8 is still mostly manual, even on the Harrier II variants with the glass cockpit.

e: Also, I love the 'and not destroying the deck...' when there's clearly a section of 'different material' deck he has to land within.

Seizure Meat
Jul 23, 2008

by Smythe

Duke Chin posted:

http://i.imgur.com/JD9HK7G.webm

http://i.imgur.com/jgdMuLx.webm

http://i.imgur.com/RcSkeGd.webm

"spoooooooooooooooooky agility!"
(wish I could inline this poo poo - which is funny considering they're smaller than a gif)

can it do a backflip on take off

Bob A Feet
Aug 10, 2005
Dear diary, I got another erection today at work. SO embarrassing, but kinda hot. The CO asked me to fix up his dress uniform. I had stayed late at work to move his badges 1/8" to the left and pointed it out this morning. 1SG spanked me while the CO watched, once they caught it. Tomorrow I get to start all over again...

SybilVimes posted:

The fbw computer in the F-35 makes a huge difference, in hover mode the joystick just acts like a claw grab control. The AV-8 is still mostly manual, even on the Harrier II variants with the glass cockpit.

e: Also, I love the 'and not destroying the deck...' when there's clearly a section of 'different material' deck he has to land within.

I did landings on that boat the night after. Most of the aircrews and maintainers were still there, minus the one dude who flew it off.

A few spots had been previously reinforced for MV-22 landings considering we have a bad habit of scorching poo poo.

Ardeem
Sep 16, 2010

There is no problem that cannot be solved through sufficient application of lasers and friendship.

Duke Chin posted:



"spoooooooooooooooooky agility!"
(wish I could inline this poo poo - which is funny considering they're smaller than a gif)

Damnit, I was hoping for .gifs of dumb things people have done with AC-130s.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

VikingSkull posted:

can it do a backflip on take off

Once!

A Handed Missus
Aug 6, 2012


VikingSkull posted:

can it do a backflip on take off




is that not good enough?

SCOTLAND
Feb 26, 2004

Bugsmasher posted:

Great timing for this page today, Air Canada's first 787-900 out of the factory:



Soon :getin:

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008


Are they any different to fly?

SybilVimes
Oct 29, 2011

hobbesmaster posted:

Are they any different to fly?

Need rebooting every 3 weeks instead of 4

Tenchrono
Jun 2, 2011


I want to fly on a 787 or an A380 so bad :(, I do about one international flight a year and always get stuck on dumb A340's.

Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!




One of my uncles is pretty high up in the computer work for the 787, and when I met him for the first time a couple months ago it took so much effort not to crack jokes about this. :v:

SCOTLAND
Feb 26, 2004

hobbesmaster posted:

Are they any different to fly?

I've got a 20ish page PDF I need to read on -8 vs -9 differences.

Darcat
Sep 25, 2014

Duke Chin posted:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
vvvv Same bird? vvvv

Yup, same plane

Duke Chin
Jan 11, 2002

Roger That:
MILK CRATES INBOUND

:siren::siren::siren::siren:
- FUCK THE HABS -

VikingSkull posted:

can it do a backflip on take off

I still remember when there were (dumb) people who thought that was real.

Bob A Feet posted:

A few spots had been previously reinforced for MV-22 landings considering we have a bad habit of scorching poo poo.

How many grass fires have you personally started?
Is this a thing covered during "How to Choose Your Landing Spot - Vol. 1: Never choose the brushlands of the Serengeti. Vol. 2: Poppy fields in Afghanistan A-OK." class? :v:

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





Pima Air & Space museum is building a new hanger, completion ETA of October. New planes and artifact displays coming!

simble
May 11, 2004

Sweet! I guess I'll be making that hour and a half drive in October :) Best part about going to Tucson is getting Beyond Bread for lunch.

SybilVimes
Oct 29, 2011
F16. most graceful jet ever...

http://www.airspacemag.com/videos/category/military-aviation/the-f-16s-first-flight/?no-ist#ooid=ExNGhjazqzmopF1R2_etHH9igY5T2U_1

Guess they didn't have that FBW quite perfected yet.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

"The ejection seat works, right?"

"We'll get back to you on that."

"Wonderful."

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008


They blame it on the F-16 simulator not having the proper force on the side stick. This would have been a critical oversight given that the YF-16's side stick did not move - this might be why the production F-16's stick moves slightly!

vulturesrow
Sep 25, 2011

Always gotta pay it forward.

Bugsmasher posted:

Great timing for this page today, Air Canada's first 787-900 out of the factory:



Saw this in final assembly at the Boeing plant last week. Very nice looking.

Dead Reckoning
Sep 13, 2011

Nooope. Nopenopenopenope. Everything about that flight regime, where the single engine is the only thing keeping you out of an unrecoverable stall, terrifies the poo poo out of me.

Tsuru
May 12, 2008
Ah, the joys of FBW in ground effect. I like to think the real reason the Airbus FBW switches to direct law below 50 feet was their FCS engineers collectively going "gently caress this" during development.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6yVU_yYtEc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faB5bIdksi8

Duke Chin
Jan 11, 2002

Roger That:
MILK CRATES INBOUND

:siren::siren::siren::siren:
- FUCK THE HABS -

Didn't this guy ball up two of them?

Tsuru
May 12, 2008

Duke Chin posted:

Didn't this guy ball up two of them?
I have a hard time believing it was him balling up this one. How can you claim something is PIO if it's the computers actually flying it?

Even assuming no wind and a perfectly flat surface in the vincinity of the runway, all the established characteristics of vehicle stability and control response in full flight you got from your simulations and windtunnels during FCS development go out the window as soon as the aircraft enters ground effect. They gradually start shifting as the aircraft descends, and pitch/roll changes occur and airspeed changes in a regime where flight control response is already impaired by low airspeed, and then you also have interference effects added of your control surfaces being close to the ground depending on pitch and roll rates/angles, maybe even combined with bit of added beta angle when the pilot decrabs in crosswind. All of this and more makes for a fun time trying to design robust and reliable FBW filters which produce responses predictable enough for the pilot not to crash the airplane. Failing to do this causes something which looks similar to PIO, but in my mind isn't.

Massively improved dynamic simulation and CFD these days mean all of the effects are better understood and can be accounted for in your flight control system in real time and during development, but in the 70s/80s they didn't have the computing power yet to do this... they just had crashes every once in a while.

Tsuru fucked around with this message at 08:14 on Jun 5, 2015

Barnsy
Jul 22, 2013

Dead Reckoning posted:

Nooope. Nopenopenopenope. Everything about that flight regime, where the single engine is the only thing keeping you out of an unrecoverable stall, terrifies the poo poo out of me.

Ok, I must admit, that takeoff was impressive. Amazed it didn't explode into a million pieces, but still impressive.

MrYenko
Jun 18, 2012

#2 isn't ALWAYS bad...

Dead Reckoning posted:

Nooope. Nopenopenopenope. Everything about that flight regime, where the single engine is the only thing keeping you out of an unrecoverable stall, terrifies the poo poo out of me.

Powered lift is dubious. Single-engine powered lift is loving idiotic, and only Marines would think it's a good idea.

Single-engine powered lift AT SEA is basically just daring death to come for you, and then loving his mom for good measure.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

MrYenko posted:

Single-engine powered lift AT SEA is basically just daring death to come for you, and then loving his mom for good measure.

You're making the B sound like the most :black101: warplane ever

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mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
I imagine helicopter pilots smugly chuckling at all this fear of powered lift. Also they die a lot more often.

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