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SgtScruffy posted:Part of me is worried super loving excited that somehow, all of the FIFA execs are going to start talking, and this thing is going to spawn revelations that no one expected and have huge over-the-top ramifications. Like, every elected european official has been bribed and every CEO of every major sponsor has been personally bribed. I know it won't be that crazy, but imagine the chaos of every few days, a new elected official or board member getting arrested someone needs to run a book on who Blatter tries to throw under the bus to save his own skin.
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Kurtofan posted:I thought Daesh didn't like football. If somebody were to offer them the world cup, they'd probably take it. If any of their neighbours got it, they'd probably start launching raids to find and murder as many construction workers as they could.
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Antti posted:He's a rich old white man. He'll get a doctor to cite some health reasons and he'll get the Berlusconi treatment. The U.S. also gives zero fucks about rich foreigners. If anything, it gives negative fucks, because prosecuting them gives the appearance that the rich aren't above the law, while not actually having to go after the American rich.
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Inferior Third Season posted:The U.S. justice system, especially with RICO involved, gives zero fucks about an old person's health in their ability to stand trial or serve prison sentences. This so very hard. RICO is the DoJ stating that rich old men will be tried as poor minorities. It also was pretty much an admission they were gunning from Blatter from the beginning, they just didn't have enough solid evidence on him. Meanwhile they did have solid evidence on the people they grabbed at first and could lean on them to make them squeal, which meant they could bring in more, lean on them, and so forth until they had a water-tight case against Blatter. It was hilarious watching Blatter take so long to figure out that he was hosed. Meanwhile, could Warner be any more hilarious? He went from blatantly lying to get bail early to go party, i.e. totally a rich thing to do, to running around in panic. The best thing is he's making these "I'm gonna squeal" statements publicly instead of going to the FBI or anyone else prosecuting FIFA. As soon as any pressure was put on him he just started melting and I can't wait to see how far it goes.
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CeeJee posted:Qatar is pushing back on the numbers that 4,000 deaths in 1,5 million people in two years is normal. And as much as it pains me to agree with them they are correct. A similar number of US men between 20 and 40 would have more deaths from accidents, disease and suicide. If you turn off your lights and say Reztilb Flow three times while staring into your bathroom mirror it exorcises the garbage spirit that's haunting you
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Orange Devil posted:Deaths due to the Panama canal or the Suez canal are really bad and wrong, but at the end they did at least lead to lasting infrastructure with massive global benefits. Qatar is building some stadiums that will be used for like 3 weeks and then be abandoned. That poo poo is hardly worth a torn fingernail. Also, the number of deaths in Panama dropped off significantly once they finally figured out that malaria is spread only by mosquitos and took measures to separate the mosquitos and the workers.
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Jack Warner isn't just rolling on FIFA to the DOJ, he's doing it to the world.  Oh, and the FBI are now going after not only Qatar's world cup, but Russia's as well.  At this rate I don't think it would be unseasonable to demand that this gets played at the beginning of every soccer match in the world. 
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How deep does this loving rabbit hole go?
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A Winner is Jew posted:
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:How deep does this loving rabbit hole go? Maybe we'll find out that Blatter really IS the President of everyone.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:How deep does this loving rabbit hole go? Well, maybe it's no coincidence that David Icke is a failed soccer player...
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I'm not sure I get what's going on with the latest news the Guardian is breaking on this at their live blog here involving John Delaney and a payment of five million euros. It looks like it's just a settlement, but the Guardian is presenting it as being pretty nefarious. e: http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2015/0604/705872-delaney-confirm-fifa-payment-to-fai/
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eviltastic posted:I'm not sure I get what's going on with the latest news the Guardian is breaking on this at their live blog here involving John Delaney and a payment of five million euros. It looks like it's just a settlement, but the Guardian is presenting it as being pretty nefarious. Holy poo poo, if it comes out that sitting US congressmen are in on FIFA corruption, what could potentially happen to them? When they get around to picking up Blatter, if he's straight up able to say and prove "These sitting representatives/senators have been getting paid $X amount for Y amount of years", does this them boil over into RICO getting filed against sitting congressmen?
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Jun 4, 2015 17:26
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DeathSandwich posted:Holy poo poo, if it comes out that sitting US congressmen are in on FIFA corruption, what could potentially happen to them? When they get around to picking up Blatter, if he's straight up able to say and prove "These sitting representatives/senators have been getting paid $X amount for Y amount of years", does this them boil over into RICO getting filed against sitting congressmen? Corruption and bribery are felonies so yes they can be charged and arrested if Blatter has dirt on them accepting payments and they will absolutely serve time for that poo poo.
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SgtScruffy posted:Part of me is worried super loving excited that somehow, all of the FIFA execs are going to start talking, and this thing is going to spawn revelations that no one expected and have huge over-the-top ramifications. Like, every elected european official has been bribed and every CEO of every major sponsor has been personally bribed. I know it won't be that crazy, but imagine the chaos of every few days, a new elected official or board member getting arrested This is a pretty accurate description of what a huge clusterfuck of corruption FIFA really is. I wouldn't be surprised, not one bit.
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eviltastic posted:Different John Delaney. Way to squash my dreams. Also way for me to not actually read the article linked before I posted.
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A Winner is Jew posted:Corruption and bribery are felonies so yes they can be charged and arrested if Blatter has dirt on them accepting payments and they will absolutely serve time for that poo poo. Money is speech, I and hear very well.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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eviltastic posted:I'm not sure I get what's going on with the latest news the Guardian is breaking on this at their live blog here involving John Delaney and a payment of five million euros. It looks like it's just a settlement, but the Guardian is presenting it as being pretty nefarious. Now that I actually read the article, I tried googling "Thierry Henry handball" and basically just got linked back to these breaking stories. What was actually involved with this handball case? Was the FAI taking FIFA to court to get Ireland in the world cup instead of France due to referee miscall or something?
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eviltastic posted:I'm not sure I get what's going on with the latest news the Guardian is breaking on this at their live blog here involving John Delaney and a payment of five million euros. It looks like it's just a settlement, but the Guardian is presenting it as being pretty nefarious.
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Bip Roberts posted:Are the 4000 deaths from workers on the stadium projects or from labor in Qatar in general? Labor in general, it's a bullshit statistic to apply to the World Cup.
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DeathSandwich posted:Way to squash my dreams. Well, in retrospect I phrased that like clickbait and should've quoted some of the article. I wasn't even thinking about the US politician.
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DeathSandwich posted:Holy poo poo, if it comes out that sitting US congressmen are in on FIFA corruption, what could potentially happen to them? When they get around to picking up Blatter, if he's straight up able to say and prove "These sitting representatives/senators have been getting paid $X amount for Y amount of years", does this them boil over into RICO getting filed against sitting congressmen? That's kind of the only thing that can undermine this. If suddenly during all the corruption and evidence etc, several influential European leaders are implicated and mysteriously, the cooperation with the US stops, in addition within the DoJ, "priorities shift" and suddenly Blatter is no longer a concern, or super  Obama mysteriously pardons a few people in his last few months of office.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:How deep does this loving rabbit hole go? The IRS investigation of the FIFA guy linked up with an FBI investigation of the Russian mafia. Very deep, probably, and there are already allegations that FIFA was rigging national elections in Trinidad.
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Cythereal posted:The IRS investigation of the FIFA guy linked up with an FBI investigation of the Russian mafia. Very deep, probably, and there are already allegations that FIFA was rigging national elections in Trinidad. Reminder that the last one came from a dude who used an Onion article to defend himself.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:Reminder that the last one came from a dude who used an Onion article to defend himself. He's also thinking people are coming to kill him. If this rabbit hole does go to rigging elections and the Russian mob as mentioned above them I absolutely believe his life is in mortal danger.
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DeathSandwich posted:He's also thinking people are coming to kill him. If this rabbit hole does go to rigging elections and the Russian mob as mentioned above them I absolutely believe his life is in mortal danger. I don't think the Russian mafia is that big of a stretch. Rigging an entire election in T/T seems a bit much.
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Or he could be so out of touch with the world that he really thinks his underlings did try to rig elections, when in reality they just pocketed the funds like proper FIFA management and told their boss "Yeah, we totally rigged those like you asked" when the results came out.
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BI NOW GAY LATER posted:I don't think the Russian mafia is that big of a stretch. Rigging an entire election in T/T seems a bit much. I don't see why FIFA would want to rig an election in T/T.
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Vladimir Putin posted:I don't see why FIFA would want to rig an election in T/T. And why don't you tell us why the Russian Mafia wants to rig an election in T/T, Vladimir Putin
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Vladimir Putin posted:I don't see why FIFA would want to rig an election in T/T. Me either. Like I totally get them getting in bed with the Russian Mafia as part of a kickback deal re: Russia 2018, but what do they gain from controlling the government of a small commonwealth nation in the Caribbean?
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Jun 4, 2015 22:33
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They rigged it in exchange for Trinidad's FIFA vote? Warner's not exactly making a lot of sense these days, though.
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Xandu posted:They rigged it in exchange for Trinidad's FIFA vote? Warner's not exactly making a lot of sense these days, though. I'd be surprised if he was telling the truth...but only a little.
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Here's another question. How in the hell is it legit for IRE to sue FIFA for a blown call on the field? I'm only asking because FIFA payed IRE 5million euros not to sue.
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Jack Warner is truly insane but I don't see why it's out of the realm for a bunch of extremely rich and powerful sports men to try their hand at rigging an election. Greed and an aura of invincibility is a hell of a drug.
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nachos posted:Jack Warner is truly insane but I don't see why it's out of the realm for a bunch of extremely rich and powerful sports men to try their hand at rigging an election. Greed and an aura of invincibility is a hell of a drug. Well maybe in a vague sense by funneling a bunch of bribe money one way or something like that.
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To be fair, though, we're talking about the elections for Trinidad, a country with a population of 1,223,916 according to Wikipedia. That's like a moderate-sized city. And not the rich American or European city, either. I really can't imagine we're talking about vast sums of money here--a few million here and there should do it.
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A Winner is Jew posted:Jack Warner isn't just rolling on FIFA to the DOJ, he's doing it to the world. "It is very difficult for some to digest that an Arab Islamic country has this tournament, as if this right can't be for an Arab state," he told Reuters in an interview in Paris. "I believe it is because of prejudice and racism that we have this bashing campaign against Qatar."
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Toplowtech posted:"If you go to jail and lose all your money, who will take care of your cats, mister Blazer?" I hope they'll be okay. It's always the innocent victims who suffer worst. 
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