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People netdeck my Sorin Markov combo decks in Modern so much I hate it with my life they will not leave the Hidetsugu's Second Rite alone
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suicidesteve posted:
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Jun 5, 2015 13:37
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Snacksmaniac posted:Get out of here, try hard. But it's a homebrew! I don't want to be a I'll play Terravores instead. Are they modern legal?! How about Skyshroud War Beast?
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Jun 5, 2015 13:40
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I've never understood the disdain some people have for "netdecks/netdecking" If someone else has figured out a winning strategy that you like, why not copy it? It just seems idiotic to dislike the practice.
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Jun 5, 2015 13:43
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rabidsquid posted:My favorite deck ever was the original combo deck, prosp bloom Stasis-tog, aka "hope you didn't want to play Magic!". God, I loved that dumb deck, especially when playing it against someone who'd never seen it before.
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Jun 5, 2015 13:45
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Madmarker posted:I've never understood the disdain some people have for "netdecks/netdecking" If someone else has figured out a winning strategy that you like, why not copy it? It just seems idiotic to dislike the practice. Just like Modern Masters cards aren't real Magic: the Gathering cards, netdecks aren't real decks and netdeckers aren't real wizards.
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Jun 5, 2015 13:46
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Alris posted:The recent BG Constellation deck featuring Eidolon of Blossoms was a lot of fun too, the amount of card draw you could have going almost felt like cheating, plus you had Vraska who was aways fun to have around. Yeah that was Rock Stars from RTR/THS Standard.  That was also a fun deck but Eidolon being 4cmc really made it clunky for me; I'm happy to see other players having success with it as a Devotion deck. I also had a friend that I never really hear speak in terms of decks being 'fun' to play, but he loved playing Murdergoats and Rock Stars, and thinking about it I think the reason he and a lot of people loved the Goats deck was because it was both interactive with the opponent (hand disruption, removal, etc.) while also a lot of multi-line plays due to how well the deck interacted with itself.
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Jun 5, 2015 13:46
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Sooo, how long till m16 spoilers?
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Jun 5, 2015 13:51
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Madmarker posted:I've never understood the disdain some people have for "netdecks/netdecking" If someone else has figured out a winning strategy that you like, why not copy it? It just seems idiotic to dislike the practice. It leads to some homogeneous metas where things aren't as spicy as they could be and also makes Magic more pay to win since these sorts of decks are highly desired and therefore require cash rares. It's easy to understand, sometimes Magic is just more fun with a random pile of cards, as Richard Garfield dreamed. In practice, everyone wants to have the best deck possible, so that doesn't work.
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Jun 5, 2015 13:51
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Rinkles posted:Sooo, how long till m16 spoilers? Monday.
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Jun 5, 2015 13:57
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Madmarker posted:I've never understood the disdain some people have for "netdecks/netdecking" If someone else has figured out a winning strategy that you like, why not copy it? It just seems idiotic to dislike the practice. I honestly have no problem against it. It's just dumb to constantly play against those decks all the time because they're established tier 1 decks that anyone can pilot . Granted, I played with friends in a more relaxed kitchen table environment so seeing fun, interactive homebrews is what's fun to me vs seeing a constant 3rd or 4th turn Infect win or some other Delver combo you've seen and played a million other times piloted by a million different people. Of course the topic is subjective nor do I really expect everyone else to agree.
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Jun 5, 2015 14:10
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Serperoth posted:Monday. Thought it started on the 15th? Which, OK, is also a Monday, but I'm taking it you meant next Monday.
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Jun 5, 2015 14:11
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suicidesteve posted:Just like Modern Masters cards aren't real Magic: the Gathering cards, netdecks aren't real decks and netdeckers aren't real wizards. Goddamn, I love that I brought this in.
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Jun 5, 2015 14:13
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Xaerael posted:Thought it started on the 15th? Which, OK, is also a Monday, but I'm taking it you meant next Monday. Yeah, I mean Monday the 8th, not the 15th. Could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's this one.
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Jun 5, 2015 14:13
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I guess I never got the hate for netdecking in terms of seeing decks all the time (unless a particular type of card was truly obnoxious like Sphinx's Revelation during any Standard in which it was legal) because I wanted to test my skill and my builds against the perceived 'best' decks, and save the fun and dumb stuff for EDH or Pauper. If I'm going to spend money traveling to register at a big competitive event, I'd rather have the experience against popular decks as a form of preparation.
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Jun 5, 2015 14:19
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Remember, if your favorite deck isn't something bad and has in fact, been competitively viable, you are scum of the earth and must be purged.
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Jun 5, 2015 14:21
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kizudarake posted:This. Here is a list that I am currently running. Only difference between mine and most lists is that outburst is in for rabble because rabble sucks in this meta. Foul-tongue and kolaghan's command as well for stoke. The sideboard is a little janky right now with the circle of flames, but then again my local meta is very aggro heavy. Deck: Mardu Dragons    //Lands 3 Battlefield Forge 4 Bloodstained Mire 3 Caves of Koilos 3 Mountain 4 Nomad Outpost 1 Swamp 3 Temple of Silence 4 Temple of Triumph //Spells 4 Crackling Doom 4 Draconic Roar  4 Hordeling Outburst 1 Murderous Cut  3 Stoke the Flames  3 Thoughtseize //Creatures 2 Kolaghan, the Storm's Fury  3 Seeker of the Way 3 Soulfire Grand Master 4 Stormbreath Dragon 4 Thunderbreak Regent //Sideboard 2 Crux of Fate 2 Anger of the Gods 2 Outpost Siege 2 Elspeth, Sun's Champion 3 Circle of Flame 3 Roast 1 Mastery of the Unseen  Display deck statistics
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Jun 5, 2015 14:24
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Count Bleck posted:Remember, if your favorite deck isn't something bad and has in fact, been competitively viable, you are scum of the earth and must be purged. I think there is some basis for criticizing a serial net-decker if the person in question just floats from deck to deck without settling and learning just one, and then complains that he gets unlucky or that 'bad players' got lucky instead, though that's more of a complaint of arrogant players than anything else.
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Jun 5, 2015 14:25
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So you know how there's that Puresteel Paladin jank modern combo deck? Someone made the same idea with Blood Funnel.
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Jun 5, 2015 14:28
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Alris posted:Decklist, immediately. kizudarake posted:This. Here is my list. Basically, Abzan can't race you since Soulfire Grand Master gains you so much life, and you have enough spot removal to keep them off balance until you drop Stormbreath, 4 damage, dash Kolaghan, 12 damage. Then, they die. Crackling Doom and Draconic Roar are the only cards in the format that 1 for 1's Sorin, Solemn Visitor's -2. Anger of the Gods shits all over green ramp decks (edit: as well as any deck leaning on the Den Protector/Deathmist Raptor core) and forces Slight decks to hold creatures back (and gains you a shitton of life with Soulfire out). And it is hilarious to drop Dragonlord Kolaghan after sideboard against Abzan and lock them out of any more Siege Rhinos. 
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Jun 5, 2015 14:43
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Serperoth posted:Yeah, I mean Monday the 8th, not the 15th. Could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure it's this one. Pre-release is July 11, can't be this soon. Next week might just be Maro talking about shakeups.
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Jun 5, 2015 14:44
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suicidesteve posted:Just like Modern Masters cards aren't real Magic: the Gathering cards, netdecks aren't real decks and netdeckers aren't real wizards. i'm a real wizard, not bc i don't net deck, but bc i wield magical spells in the war against the dragons
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Jun 5, 2015 14:49
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hagrid: yer a wizard, 'arry harry: sweet, also check out my foiled out splinter twin deck hagrid: nm
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Jun 5, 2015 14:50
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I've been out of standard for a few weeks, how is junk the top deck again? I thought its U/Bx matchup was just too bad.
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Jun 5, 2015 14:52
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black potus posted:i'm a real wizard, not bc i don't net deck, but bc i wield magical spells in the war against the dragons I play FF14 so for me it's both. 
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Jun 5, 2015 14:53
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black potus posted:hagrid: yer a wizard, 'arry lol
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Jun 5, 2015 14:54
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Also something I've been wondering - what commonly played cards can punish you for playing mismatched cards (assuming you play correctly)? The main one I can think of is Hymn to Tourach. Are there any in standard or modern?
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Jun 5, 2015 14:57
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I've been out of standard for a few weeks, how is junk the top deck again? I thought its U/Bx matchup was just too bad. Abzan Control and Abzan Aggro just crush Esper dragons to the extent that Esper is no longer a T1 deck.
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Jun 5, 2015 14:58
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Count Bleck posted:Remember, if your favorite deck isn't something bad and has in fact, been competitively viable, you are scum of the earth and must be purged. my pet deck in any format will be U/R because i like lightning bolting people and drawing cards so i can lightning bolt people some more
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Jun 5, 2015 14:59
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What would be the fix for a player (and opponent) missing the 'shuffle graveyard into library' trigger on Emrakul? Can the judge have you shuffle it all back in 5 turns later? Would it be a game loss? Would they let it just stay there? What if you tried to reanimate it?
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Jun 5, 2015 15:00
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suicidesteve posted:But it's a homebrew! I don't want to be a No but they loving should be, I would definitely run some sort of Scapeshift/Landfall abomination with 4 maindeck Terravore and never stop smiling (or playing at the 0-X table)
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Devor posted:What would be the fix for a player (and opponent) missing the 'shuffle graveyard into library' trigger on Emrakul? Can the judge have you shuffle it all back in 5 turns later? Would it be a game loss? Serious business game, it'd probably be a straight up game loss unless the opponent agrees on an alternative. It's a major trigger that can affect both players' chance to win. FNM/casual, I'd suggest removing from the game unless the opponent was being bratty, then just concede a loss.
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Jun 5, 2015 15:08
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TheKingofSprings posted:Like 4 out of 10 people are playing it in competitive standard right now dude Where are you getting 40%? MTG Goldfish looks like 20%, with Burn/Sligh taking up 15% and Esper Dragons 10%.
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Jun 5, 2015 15:15
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bhsman posted:I play FF14 so for me it's both. sorry for your lots
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forbidden lesbian posted:my pet deck in any format will be U/R because i like lightning bolting people and drawing cards so i can lightning bolt people some more Hoo boy, do I have a deck for you
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Jun 5, 2015 15:16
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GoutPatrol posted:Where are you getting 40%? MTG Goldfish looks like 20%, with Burn/Sligh taking up 15% and Esper Dragons 10%. You have to combine all the dumb flavors of azban (aggro, control, etc) and then round up.
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Jun 5, 2015 15:17
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mcmagic posted:Abzan Control and Abzan Aggro just crush Esper dragons to the extent that Esper is no longer a T1 deck.
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AgentSythe posted:Hoo boy, do I have a deck for you So, what? Is this literally "cantrip into bolt and noxious revival until you bolt them for 20"? That's awesome.
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Irony Be My Shield posted:Aggro I get, but how does running a greedier threat base and a draw spell that looks frankly embarassing next to DTT help your control matchup? I wouldn't say azban control crushes esper , but the matchup isn't great. Thoughtsieze is a card and it has too much removal for espers wincons to actually win.
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Sickening posted:You have to combine all the dumb flavors of azban (aggro, control, etc) and then round up. Yeah. Abzan Control 13.30% Abzan Aggro 7.41% Are there more hiding that I'm missing?
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