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Joementum posted:That's what they said when Newt's staff all quit around this time in 2011 and look what happened there. He seriously brought up Moon bases in a debate. Everyone who quit is a loving idiot who should feel bad about themselves. You could have been part of the team advocating for Moon bases, man. computer parts posted:He also kinda hosed up the Cuba thing. He's also been really vocally anti gay marriage. Like louder than the Religious Right twin standard bearers of Huckabee and Santorum. I mean, all the Republicans have inexplicably decided that's a great hill to die on, but Rubio's been digging in like it's the Somme.
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I've been thinking about who could be VP for the Dems a lot recently (because it's not like there's much else to think about on the Dem side). This led to chatting to a guy from the US consulate about it yesterday, and he dropped a name I hadn't considered but could be an interesting choice: Gary Locke. Any thoughts? Also, Mr Hootington posted:Edit: I also want to add a request if anyone has any great politic shows from there states they listen to or watch could you link them or just post about them. Interested in seeing what candidates say in different states they are campaigning in. Preferably podcast form if possible.
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Daduzi posted:I've been thinking about who could be VP for the Dems a lot recently (because it's not like there's much else to think about on the Dem side). This led to chatting to a guy from the US consulate about it yesterday, and he dropped a name I hadn't considered but could be an interesting choice: Gary Locke. Any thoughts? First thought: who? Second thought, after looking up who he was, was that it would play terribly with labor groups. Third thought, as I continued to read his bio was, "wow, he'd play terribly with labor groups even if he wasn't linked to America's China policies." I don't know if you're looking at him because you think that the Asian-American vote is important because, well, it really isn't. They tend to be concentrated in safely Democratic states so if you are doing it as a "voter bait" idea then there's much better groups to go for.
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Daduzi posted:I've been thinking about who could be VP for the Dems a lot recently (because it's not like there's much else to think about on the Dem side). This led to chatting to a guy from the US consulate about it yesterday, and he dropped a name I hadn't considered but could be an interesting choice: Gary Locke. Any thoughts? He's certainly qualified, but once you get past minimum qualifications here are the things that matter in picking a VP: 1. No hidden scandals. 2. Gets along with the Presidential candidate. .... 998. Race / gender. 999. Home state.
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How long has it been since Locke was even in the political spotlight, anyway?
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Daduzi posted:I've been thinking about who could be VP for the Dems a lot recently (because it's not like there's much else to think about on the Dem side). This led to chatting to a guy from the US consulate about it yesterday, and he dropped a name I hadn't considered but could be an interesting choice: Gary Locke. Any thoughts? I know it's not the greatest but Bloomberg hosts a show called With All Due Respect that basically shows the highlights of the race every day online. It's hosted by the guys who wrote Game Change. It's not in podcast or YouTube form unfortunately (only via Bloomberg website), but it's worth a gander. Like PTI but for 2016 politics.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:How long has it been since Locke was even in the political spotlight, anyway? Ambassador to China until 2014. I don't know if that counts or not. Prior to that he was governor until 2005. However, truth be told, he was NEVER in the political spotlight, he's always been an under the radar guy who didn't find himself/his policies discussed in the national press regularly.
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Gyges posted:He seriously brought up Moon bases in a debate. Everyone who quit is a loving idiot who should feel bad about themselves. You could have been part of the team advocating for Moon bases, man. He actually brought it out in a stump speech when he saw how lovely his Florida numbers were 
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Cliff Racer posted:Ambassador to China until 2014. I don't know if that counts or not. Prior to that he was governor until 2005. However, truth be told, he was NEVER in the political spotlight, he's always been an under the radar guy who didn't find himself/his policies discussed in the national press regularly. He got approved for the China post unanimously by the Senate....in the 112th Congress. He'd spent the previous two years as Obama's Secretary of Commerce. There's no clearer sign that he's popular, but a political null.
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Cliff Racer posted:Ambassador to China Speaking of that, I got curious to see what Huntsman was up to, considering a lot of people speculated his quixotic 2012 campaign was really just to lay the groundwork for a 2016 run: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/jon-huntsman-2016-111678.html quote:“I can’t describe a pathway through the early primary states up to Super Tuesday, and if you can’t find that pathway or describe what that pathway is, then you had [better] not be in the race,” Huntsman said 
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Tobermory posted:He got approved for the China post unanimously by the Senate....in the 112th Congress. He'd spent the previous two years as Obama's Secretary of Commerce. There's no clearer sign that he's popular, but a political null.
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Pompous Rhombus posted:Speaking of that, I got curious to see what Huntsman was up to, considering a lot of people speculated his quixotic 2012 campaign was really just to lay the groundwork for a 2016 run: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/jon-huntsman-2016-111678.html I guess he really was the most sane Republican candidate after all.
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Dolash posted:I guess he really was the most sane Republican candidate after all. Yeah, it's a shame that one of the few republicans that isn't blatantly hateful and foolish is the one that has said, "no thanks" to another run.
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Weltlich posted:Yeah, it's a shame that one of the few republicans that isn't blatantly hateful and foolish is the one that has said, "no thanks" to another run. The irony is that his relative sanity is precisely the thing that prevents him from running.
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There's a catch-22 joke there but I can't think of any recent number based memes that would fit.
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I'd think he'd do better in a field where the far right and farther right are divided by 20 candidates than in his last tun. The only other "moderate" is Kasich who's probably less known than Huntsman.
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I'm reading the 2012 version of Game Change and it sounds like Huntsman is a pretty incompetent guy in general.
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Sir Kodiak posted:My guess would be that anyone willing to believe the GOP is trying to stop them from voting wasn't going to vote for them in the first place. Whereas Hillary may well attempt to appeal to people who have at least one group of undesirables they're willing to demonize. They may have been Dems already, but hearing that someone is trying to stop them from voting might make them more likely to turn out. Especially blacks who remember (or whose parents/grandparents remember) the other times someone tried to stop them from voting.
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Jackson Taus posted:They may have been Dems already, but hearing that someone is trying to stop them from voting might make them more likely to turn out. Especially blacks who remember (or whose parents/grandparents remember) the other times someone tried to stop them from voting. The Brennan Center has found that this is true, but not through some sort of natural effect but because GOTV efforts respond more heartily in areas that are targeted with suppression. It is even possible attempts to suppress the vote actually have the reverse effect, by 'suppressing' those who wouldn't have voted anyway and energizing others to get out there and vote. Obviously, it depends what level of suppression and how it's enacted. Preventing registration is probably worse than putting up barriers to voting.
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Everything fell together at the last minute yesterday so I will be attending the Joni Ernst Roast and Ride. I will bring another crappy trip report and pictures of candidates cooking, speaking, and cornholing.
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:
Hahaha poor George Pataki.
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eternalname posted:I'm reading the 2012 version of Game Change and it sounds like Huntsman is a pretty incompetent guy in general. IIRC the whole idea of Huntsman being "reasonable" kind of falls apart once you really start digging in to his policies.
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De Nomolos posted:If Bernie ever got close, he'd be ripped apart so easily. Almost every socialist group in the US right now is spending all of their time and effort ranting about how Bernie isn't a real socialist and he's a tool of the Dems and Hillary's pawn and no true socialist would ever support a Zionist pig like Bernie Sanders.
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Mr Hootington posted:Everything fell together at the last minute yesterday so I will be attending the Joni Ernst Roast and Ride. You're doing God's work. By the end of this primary season, you and Arkane are going to be the biggest Republican donors on the forums.
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Mr Hootington posted:Everything fell together at the last minute yesterday so I will be attending the Joni Ernst Roast and Ride. Thank you for your service. 
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Obdicut posted:The Brennan Center has found that this is true, but not through some sort of natural effect but because GOTV efforts respond more heartily in areas that are targeted with suppression. It is even possible attempts to suppress the vote actually have the reverse effect, by 'suppressing' those who wouldn't have voted anyway and energizing others to get out there and vote. This makes a lot of sense. But it seems different than suggesting that GOP voting or registration suppression efforts would be a problem to defend in a presidential debate.
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Anyone who believes the GOP garbage about "voter fraud" was never going to vote for a Democrat anyway. But it seems like maybe a demoralized non-voter (from a marginalized group like immigrants, Hispanic- & African-Americans) who sees the Dems trying to do something for them might be inspired to vote for the first time in a while/ever.
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I can't wait for Game Change HBO movie just to see who they cast for the GOP candidatesRocks posted:I know it's not the greatest but Bloomberg hosts a show called With All Due Respect that basically shows the highlights of the race every day online. It's hosted by the guys who wrote Game Change. It's not in podcast or YouTube form unfortunately (only via Bloomberg website), but it's worth a gander. Like PTI but for 2016 politics. This show is fantastic. Thank you for posting it Mr Ice Cream Glove fucked around with this message at 17:08 on Jun 6, 2015 |
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:I can't wait for Game Change HBO movie just to see who they cast for the GOP candidates Josh Brolin as Rick Perry Donald Trump as Donald Trump Vincent D'onofriio as Jeb That's all I got. It's so hard to remember all these guys.
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:I can't wait for Game Change HBO movie just to see who they cast for the GOP candidates I can't wait for them to cut out all of the interesting stuff so they can focus on sensationalism like last time.
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Pillowpants posted:Josh Brolin as Rick Perry Aidan Gillen as Martin O'Malley
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No candidates yet. This is a little surprising since the memo that candidates said to mingle a bit. I expected the lower in the polls candidates to be put a bit more. One of the trump advisors I saw Thursday is here! Spy! Edit: lol they are showing up at 12:30 on motorcycles and when they announced people can go see them people streamed over kicked them out and said press only Mr Hootington fucked around with this message at 18:44 on Jun 6, 2015 |
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Rocks posted:I know it's not the greatest but Bloomberg hosts a show called With All Due Respect that basically shows the highlights of the race every day online. It's hosted by the guys who wrote Game Change. It's not in podcast or YouTube form unfortunately (only via Bloomberg website), but it's worth a gander. Like PTI but for 2016 politics. Thanks for this. Just discovered the show and love it. Pro-click.
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Mr Hootington posted:No candidates yet. This is a little surprising since the memo that candidates said to mingle a bit. I expected the lower in the polls candidates to be put a bit more. Or finally came to (relative) senses.
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