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Fart Sandwiches
Apr 4, 2006

i never asked for this

DustyNuts posted:

Go hang out at Jackson Square in New Orleans and eat some french donuts.

If you must do something in Gulfport go to the Beau Rivage. It's the least poo poo casino in that shithole area.

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maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
The only people I've heard say Gulfport is alright are already from the South and in turn Very Bad Trash People. Never go here. If you have orders go AWOL and join the Foreign Legion, aka what we all should've done in the first place after we got to the military and went "Holy poo poo why didn't I become a firefighter"

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

maffew buildings posted:

The only people I've heard say Gulfport is alright are already from the South and in turn Very Bad Trash People. Never go here. If you have orders go AWOL and join the Foreign Legion, aka what we all should've done in the first place after we got to the military and went "Holy poo poo why didn't I become a firefighter"

I know you're just making a point but the French Foreign Legion is just another poo poo military. Actually way worse than enlisting in US military (even National Guard). There was an Ask/Tell post from a guy who dropped everything and ended up joining the FFL a couple of years back. It was so lovely he eventually ended up deserting like most of the people who join the FFL from Western countries.

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned
I think how poo poo it is depends on how much you enjoy reckless boozing with violent Slavs and your primary mission set being gently caress up Africans

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

maffew buildings posted:

I think how poo poo it is depends on how much you enjoy reckless boozing with violent Slavs and your primary mission set being gently caress up Africans

From what I can gather it's a conscript type lifestyle and indentured servitude for the dirty missions of the French government. Ideologically FFL is hard to get excited about but I can see the benefits of grinding it out for a chance at French residency and a chance at a new life. This is the reason why so many people from China, Eastern Europe, and Africa join.

People from developed countries join out of boredom and seeking adventure, but I have a feeling that most of them are quickly disillusioned. I know there are a couple of elite infantry/paratrooper units and those are probably the closest thing to what we imagine the FFL to be. There's a lot of support and 2nd tier combat units and those are where majority of the people join FFL end up. You're going to be peeling a lot of potatoes and licking boot from ignorant NCOs who have made a career out of the FFL. I can't even imagine how much your basic rights, healthcare, leave, and pay get poo poo on in a system like that. Plus they can always be like "you decided to join this."

Not taking away from the FFL but it's just so often glamorized by people who don't know the military day to day life.

Nostalgia4Dogges
Jun 18, 2004

Only emojis can express my pure, simple stupidity.

Howard Phillips posted:

It was so lovely he eventually ended up deserting like most of the people who join the FFL from Western countries.


Like all his friends deserted but he went on leave to the U.S. and a chick stole his passport and he got stuck and said it wasn't worth the punishment to go back because he'd already been labeled a deserter


It's funny at the end of the more popular FFL doc the Kiwi they were following deserted

Anita Dickinme
Jan 24, 2013


Grimey Drawer
Could always join the Russian Foreign Legion! :haw:

maffew buildings
Apr 29, 2009

too dumb to be probated; not too dumb to be autobanned

Howard Phillips posted:

People from developed countries join out of boredom and seeking adventure, but I have a feeling that most of them are quickly disillusioned. I know there are a couple of elite infantry/paratrooper units and those are probably the closest thing to what we imagine the FFL to be. There's a lot of support and 2nd tier combat units and those are where majority of the people join FFL end up. You're going to be peeling a lot of potatoes and licking boot from ignorant NCOs who have made a career out of the FFL. I can't even imagine how much your basic rights, healthcare, leave, and pay get poo poo on in a system like that. Plus they can always be like "you decided to join this."

I have not had the opportunity to peel one potato for the US Navy and frankly feel this is the missing link in knowing I've done right by my nation. Also they probably poo poo on your healthcare, leave and pay in a fashion similar to how our military shits on them. We don't get literally beaten in our military though, something I'm guessing the Legion still allows their NCOs to handle out

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.

Anita Dickinme posted:

Could always join the Russian Foreign Legion! :haw:

An American from Texas fighting on the Pro separatist side in Ukraine. There was another American fighting on the Ukraine side but he was killed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cA9cGUGr00

I've always been fascinated with people joining foreign militaries. I've also heard of people joining the IDF in Israel for adventure and possible pass at becoming an Israeli citizen in a secular way.

Howard Phillips
May 4, 2008

His smile; it shines in the darkest of depths. There is hope yet.
*accidental double post

Kawasaki Nun
Jul 16, 2001

by Reene

LingcodKilla posted:

Need to find a good place to eat. Any personal favorites?

Baccanal is great to start or end a sophisticated evening with a shitload of wine and spirits and good food. You should go to Crabby jacks. It is an excellent place to get a poboy. Outside of that there are tons of good places to go eat, its hard to go wrong. Its also crawfish season so stopping by any seafood shop and getting 5+lbs and a sixpack of beer makes for a great outdoor lunch.

Willie Mae's scotch house opened up an uptown location if you want to have the best fried chicken of your life.

Edit: Also make sure to have a dozen oyster appetizer at any restaurant that serves them. They're dirt cheap relative to other parts of the country.

Kawasaki Nun fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Jun 6, 2015

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Months ago I asked about a tattoo shop in Pensacola and I got some great advice about Gabe at the Hula Moon. He liked my idea and put me on his waiting list. 5 months later its finally time and I've finished my course and I'm heading home.



Stupid military tattoo is off by bucket list!

VVV Thanks just being self-depreciating because its such a cliche thing to do. I loving love it. VVV

Crab Dad fucked around with this message at 01:28 on Jun 7, 2015

Nwabudike Morgan
Dec 31, 2007
actually that is a rad tattoo

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

Do you like our owl?



Ultra Carp

Nwabudike Morgan posted:

actually that is a rad tattoo

Yea that tattoo is better than most that I see. Going to steal it but instead of lightning bolts going to change it to range finders.

Mad Dragon
Feb 29, 2004

Nwabudike Morgan posted:

actually that is a rad tattoo

It's no Smeper Fi, that's for sure.

Fart Sandwiches
Apr 4, 2006

i never asked for this

LingcodKilla posted:

Months ago I asked about a tattoo shop in Pensacola and I got some great advice about Gabe at the Hula Moon. He liked my idea and put me on his waiting list. 5 months later its finally time and I've finished my course and I'm heading home.



Stupid military tattoo is off by bucket list!

VVV Thanks just being self-depreciating because its such a cliche thing to do. I loving love it. VVV

You're welcome! I was driving into base the other day after lunch and there was a gaggle of navy dudes all wearing sleeveless shirts with fresh tattoos covered by Saran Wrap. They went to one of those places right off base that are questionable at best.

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


PneumonicBook posted:

Yea that tattoo is better than most that I see. Going to steal it but instead of lightning bolts going to change it to range finders.

Awesome! I hardly doubt this is truly original but drat fun.

DustyNuts
Jun 1, 2000

Have you seen me?

quote:

Yea that tattoo is better than most that I see. Going to steal it but instead of lightning bolts going to change it to quills and anchors.

DustyNuts
Jun 1, 2000

Have you seen me?

Don't know how I missed this one: http://www.duffelblog.com/2014/04/navy-career-counselor/

Anita Dickinme
Jan 24, 2013


Grimey Drawer

I am looking forward to my time in the Navy. :downs:

Nwabudike Morgan
Dec 31, 2007
one navy tattoo i really want would be the seal from the NROL-39, the octopus with its tentacles around a globe. think it'd be a dope intel tattoo

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Nwabudike Morgan posted:

one navy tattoo i really want would be the seal from the NROL-39, the octopus with its tentacles around a globe. think it'd be a dope intel tattoo

The Drum octopus is pretty cool.

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May
In a characteristic display of poor judgment, I just ran the Navy 10 Nautical Miler.

Supposedly I should feel a sense of accomplishment but instead I feel muscle pain and a blister.

Boon
Jun 21, 2005

by R. Guyovich
So... You going to put a sticker on your back window or what?

DustyNuts
Jun 1, 2000

Have you seen me?

When I was CFL I came really close to ordering a few hundred of those stickers with a "1.5" on them to pass out after the PRT. My CMC would have disliked it though.

Fart Sandwiches
Apr 4, 2006

i never asked for this

DustyNuts posted:

When I was CFL I came really close to ordering a few hundred of those stickers with a "1.5" on them to pass out after the PRT. My CMC would have disliked it though.

drat if I had thought of it I would have done it. That's hilarious. poo poo I might do it now around prt time because this last cycle over half Corry station got put on FEP either through failure, lowest passing score, or fat body.

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

HAHAHA! Ahh Eeeee BPOOF!

Fart Sandwiches posted:

... last cycle over half Corry station got put on FEP either through failure, lowest passing score, or fat body.

Seriously? I mean I know most people don't work out because they're dealing with kids/dependas/what have you, but this is absurd. I hope the SECNAV rethinks his policy about the non-punitive thing on COs doing spot checks on people and makes it like bread and water plus hard labor or something. Think my suggestion is extreme? You get paid to maintain a prescribed weight/BCA standard and do some semblance of cardio/upper body/lovely core exercises- the Navy doesn't ask for much so I see it as an extreme failure of the individual to hold accountability for themselves. Don't like it? Stop collecting a paycheck from Uncle Sam and get out. Rant over.

PneumonicBook
Sep 26, 2007

Do you like our owl?



Ultra Carp

germskr posted:

Seriously? I mean I know most people don't work out because they're dealing with kids/dependas/what have you, but this is absurd. I hope the SECNAV rethinks his policy about the non-punitive thing on COs doing spot checks on people and makes it like bread and water plus hard labor or something. Think my suggestion is extreme? You get paid to maintain a prescribed weight/BCA standard and do some semblance of cardio/upper body/lovely core exercises- the Navy doesn't ask for much so I see it as an extreme failure of the individual to hold accountability for themselves. Don't like it? Stop collecting a paycheck from Uncle Sam and get out. Rant over.

loving :lol:

Boon
Jun 21, 2005

by R. Guyovich
This year was the first year that I ever walked on the PRT. I walked about a good fifth of a mile or so which led to my worst ever time.

Finished in 11:10 :colbert:

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Jan 11, 2003

Mostly Harmless
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germskr
Oct 23, 2007

HAHAHA! Ahh Eeeee BPOOF!

Boon posted:

This year was the first year that I ever walked on the PRT. I walked about a good fifth of a mile or so which led to my worst ever time.

Finished in 11:10 :colbert:


Depending on age group, that's not bad. As a matter of fact, just to get a GOOD which is one level higher than SAT (not asking for above and beyond stellar performance, it's the Navy afterall), 17-19 year old males are expected to run a 11:00 1.5 mile, 20-24 year old males in 12:00. For the 17-19 year olds, that's a 1:49.36 per quarter mile and for the 20-24 year olds that's 1:59.30 per quarter mile. I'm not asking for Olympians but you can do a combination of walk/jog/watermelon crawl and pass making those splits. Bear in mind, this is for one level higher than SATISFACTORY, which is the bare minimum (and some COs put people on FEP for that anyway).

Pneumonic, obviously I don't know you but are you honestly telling me that you feel pity/sorrow for folks who can't do the above, or even the slower SATISFACTORY and pass their bi-annual PRT?

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Dude there was a ton of people on FEP because the sats were considered failures. They didn't warn people you'd be on it if you didn't to at least one level higher. I had three of five kids in my class just do the bare min of stuff because there was no incentive to take it seriously. If they had either warned people or let them test out during the first session about 1/3 less people would have been there.

Not me though because I ain't no fat rear end.

Hotel Kpro
Feb 24, 2011

owls don't go to school
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Stultus Maximus posted:

In a characteristic display of poor judgment, I just ran the Navy 10 Nautical Miler.

Supposedly I should feel a sense of accomplishment but instead I feel muscle pain and a blister.

But look at this sick loving medal you got (Someone in the running thread posted it)



No joke that medal is badass

Sir Lucius
Aug 3, 2003
FEP doesn't work when fats go and pound 5 monster energy drinks in a day and an entire pizza for dinner. If the Navy wants to control BCA they need to focus on diet as much as they do exercise.

Cerekk
Sep 24, 2004

Oh my god, JC!
if the Navy was actually serious about physical fitness they would mandate organized PT or providing time during the work day to work out.

and maybe stop serving chili cheese dogs and chicken nuggets at the galley

vulturesrow
Sep 25, 2011

Always gotta pay it forward.

Cerekk posted:

if the Navy was actually serious about physical fitness they would mandate organized PT or providing time during the work day to work out.

Per the PRT instruction they are supposed to do so.

Cerekk
Sep 24, 2004

Oh my god, JC!

vulturesrow posted:

Per the PRT instruction they are supposed to do so.

"You are provided time during the work day to work out. That time is between 1115 and 1200. Lunch is 1100 to 1115. You must be back in the uniform of the day at 1200."

"You are provided an alternate time during the work day to work out. "Working hours" are 0600 to 1800 because sailors are always on the clock, shipmate!"

Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


Cerekk posted:

if the Navy was actually serious about physical fitness they would mandate organized PT or providing time during the work day to work out.

and maybe stop serving chili cheese dogs and chicken nuggets at the galley

Chili nachos is were its at.


If the weather didnt constantly make me feel like I was under a wet blanket I may have done more here. The tracks is really nice. The gym has adequate equipment but the ventilation sucks and it smells like a... gym sock. As it is I'm "navy" fit so just watching what I eat was a enough to not gain like 30lbs here.

Crab Dad fucked around with this message at 02:02 on Jun 8, 2015

germskr
Oct 23, 2007

HAHAHA! Ahh Eeeee BPOOF!

Cerekk posted:

if the Navy was actually serious about physical fitness they would mandate organized PT or providing time during the work day to work out.

and maybe stop serving chili cheese dogs and chicken nuggets at the galley

My last command did this- prescribed 07-0830ish as departmental/command/individual PT on a POD basis. It was abused to all poo poo, where most people would go get breakfast or go sleep in their cars. We still had a lot of people fail both PRT and weigh in (as Sir Lucius points out) due to lovely diet habits. I'm 100% with you when you say they should change the galley, but my base didn't have a galley. Hence my (slightly) over the top bread and water comment.

As Lingcodkilla points out, there's no incentive to do well on the PRT. I'm not saying medals and awards are the way to go either, but Lt Col. (retired) David Grossman frequently used an example that good shooting scores in the old Army would get a liberty pass. Maybe a 24 hour special lib to the top 10%? I dunno or maybe just personal pride/professionalism, but when you look at current "leaders" in the fleet and how seriously they take PT (just look at that beer belly hanging over the gig line), it's no wonder junior sailors don't give a poo poo. If you're injured (temp/perm) and have it documented, cool. But if you're unmotivated to do a little bit of the leg work to meet the standards for a job you volunteered for, I have no sympathy when you get separated because you're fat or can't do the little bit of cardio/upper body/core exercises the Navy asks.

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Crab Dad
Dec 28, 2002

behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB


germskr posted:

My last command did this- prescribed 07-0830ish as departmental/command/individual PT on a POD basis. It was abused to all poo poo, where most people would go get breakfast or go sleep in their cars. We still had a lot of people fail both PRT and weigh in (as Sir Lucius points out) due to lovely diet habits. I'm 100% with you when you say they should change the galley, but my base didn't have a galley. Hence my (slightly) over the top bread and water comment.

As Lingcodkilla points out, there's no incentive to do well on the PRT. I'm not saying medals and awards are the way to go either, but Lt Col. (retired) David Grossman frequently used an example that good shooting scores in the old Army would get a liberty pass. Maybe a 24 hour special lib to the top 10%? I dunno or maybe just personal pride/professionalism, but when you look at current "leaders" in the fleet and how seriously they take PT (just look at that beer belly hanging over the gig line), it's no wonder junior sailors don't give a poo poo. If you're injured (temp/perm) and have it documented, cool. But if you're unmotivated to do a little bit of the leg work to meet the standards for a job you volunteered for, I have no sympathy when you get separated because you're fat or can't do the little bit of cardio/upper body/core exercises the Navy asks.

Could be as little as simply doing better in all three categories than your previous sat attempts. That would at least motivate the people who have no chance to be the top 10% because 18-20yrs are loving jackrabbits.

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