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Mikedawson
Jun 21, 2013

Action Yak Police posted:

People say that Tumblr users will get offended by anything, as though they are searching for things to be offended by.

I can't imagine why they would think that. How absurd!

Go away.

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Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008




Nah, he's right. That's crazy.

Chevy Slyme
May 2, 2004

We're Gonna Run.

We're Gonna Crawl.

Kick Down Every Wall.
Haole go home.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 5 days!

Dark Grapefruit posted:

I'm really glad that every time we get a description of what Cecil is wearing, it's as far away from the suit-and-tie Tumblr design as humanly possible.

I don't understand this. I always imagine him dressing like vermin supreme or the emperor of California.

Evil Mastermind
Apr 28, 2008

Dark Grapefruit posted:

I'm really glad that every time we get a description of what Cecil is wearing, it's as far away from the suit-and-tie Tumblr design as humanly possible.

I'm really hoping at some point Cecil says flat-out that he doesn't have a third eye.

BooDoug187
Apr 8, 2005

Don't you fear the yetis in Rio?

Evil Mastermind posted:

I'm really hoping at some point Cecil says flat-out that he doesn't have a third eye.

It won't matter, Tumblr had already decided and nothing anyone says will change their "head cannon"

WHICH WAY MADNESS
Apr 28, 2009

You recall this living nightmare, you take comfort in its familiar pain. You smell fermentation and can hear a dull, unending beeping. Someone shouts in a language you do not know.
You love your family. YOU. LOVE. THEM.
Welcome to Red Lobster. Come see what's fresh. Today.
That was some drat good weather.

ElectricBassClef
Jun 23, 2013


Dark Grapefruit posted:

I'm really glad that every time we get a description of what Cecil is wearing, it's as far away from the suit-and-tie Tumblr design as humanly possible.

Evil Mastermind posted:

I'm really hoping at some point Cecil says flat-out that he doesn't have a third eye.

What's so wrong with this conception of Cecil? I really don't understand. I get that the suit-and-tie design is different from "furry pants and honeycomb hat", but this is only the second time his clothing has ever been mentioned as far as I remember. And some people in Night Vale really do have extra eyes. The show also kind of has an eye motif, right down to the logo, so associating it with Cecil seems reasonable.

ZorajitZorajit
Sep 15, 2013

No static at all...
I like the suit-and-tie design, but I don't want to impugn on the creators to portray their own character in any particular way. Personally, I find the extra eye to feel kind of forced. There's also the symbolic value to consider, that a character with a third eye immediately appears to be more insightful (which is not to suggest he is uninsightful either) that I interpret Cecil to be.

ElectricBassClef
Jun 23, 2013


I don't think that depicting Cecil with a suit and tie is really impugning on anyone, but otherwise I get what you mean. Let's rephrase: I can understand if people don't like the design, but I'm surprised at how much some of the posters in this thread don't like it, to the point where a few are even extending their contempt to the fans who like it. I'm trying to understand where this reaction is coming from.

WHICH WAY MADNESS
Apr 28, 2009

You recall this living nightmare, you take comfort in its familiar pain. You smell fermentation and can hear a dull, unending beeping. Someone shouts in a language you do not know.
You love your family. YOU. LOVE. THEM.
Welcome to Red Lobster. Come see what's fresh. Today.

ElectricBassClef posted:

I don't think that depicting Cecil with a suit and tie is really impugning on anyone, but otherwise I get what you mean. Let's rephrase: I can understand if people don't like the design, but I'm surprised at how much some of the posters in this thread don't like it, to the point where a few are even extending their contempt to the fans who like it. I'm trying to understand where this reaction is coming from.

Well for me it's contempt for all things tumblr. On the other hand, the show pretty much owes its success to that fan base, so take it as you will.

AstroZamboni
Mar 8, 2007

Smoothing the Ice on Europa since 1997!
I usually just imagine Cecil looking like just a regular guy. I'm clearly in the minority.

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH

AstroZamboni posted:

I usually just imagine Cecil looking like just a regular guy. I'm clearly in the minority.

:agreed:

QuickbreathFinisher
Sep 28, 2008

by reading this post you have agreed to form a gay socialist micronation.
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Yea, I basically imagine Cecil Palmer...with weirder clothes. Did the suit and tie thing come from his usual attire for live shows, or was it around before that?

Also yes, best weather is Sni Bong because it was the only song I knew and loved before I heard it as the weather. And because it's on one of my favorite episodes.

Dark Grapefruit
Jun 3, 2006

All cans are welcome and equal in your city, regardless of can content, and whether empty or full.

ElectricBassClef posted:

I don't think that depicting Cecil with a suit and tie is really impugning on anyone, but otherwise I get what you mean. Let's rephrase: I can understand if people don't like the design, but I'm surprised at how much some of the posters in this thread don't like it, to the point where a few are even extending their contempt to the fans who like it. I'm trying to understand where this reaction is coming from.

I didn't mean to come across as hating on the fans who draw him that way. Imagine him however you want, that's the whole point of leaving him mostly undescribed.

Mikedawson
Jun 21, 2013

QuickbreathFinisher posted:

Yea, I basically imagine Cecil Palmer...with weirder clothes. Did the suit and tie thing come from his usual attire for live shows, or was it around before that?

Also yes, best weather is Sni Bong because it was the only song I knew and loved before I heard it as the weather. And because it's on one of my favorite episodes.

I don't know much about designing characters, but I would think the usual vest/tie/glasses came from the idea of giving him a calm and refined, if a little nerdy look to pair up with his "talk radio host" voice and role. Plus the only description of his appearance prior to the latest episode is from Sandstorm, which stated he wears a bow tie (granted it also stated that he has solid black eyes).

Leospeare
Jun 27, 2003
I lack the ability to think of a creative title.

Mr Tastee posted:

I don't know much about designing characters, but I would think the usual vest/tie/glasses came from the idea of giving him a calm and refined, if a little nerdy look to pair up with his "talk radio host" voice and role.

Of all the male radio announcers I've known, the calm and refined ones wear polo shirts and khakis most of the time (which is how I imagined Cecil before I started seeing pictures of him in live shows). Only sports announcers and managers wear anything approaching businesswear. But that was small-town commercial radio, not public, so YMMV.

Mandy Thompson
Dec 26, 2014

by zen death robot

AstroZamboni posted:

I usually just imagine Cecil looking like just a regular guy. I'm clearly in the minority.

I imagined he looked like his voice actor

He does look snappy in a purple suit and tie, not so much with the third eye.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



At the beginning, I basically imagined Cecil looking like Ira Glass. Now that I know what his voice actor looks like, I just imagine him looking like that.

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut
I'd seen tons of fanart before I started listening, so I already had a picture of the standard Cecil and Carlos in my head (except the third eye- that never made sense to me). But I like that they never give anything explicit about Cecil, so people can see him however they want.

ElectricBassClef
Jun 23, 2013


WHICH WAY MADNESS posted:

Well for me it's contempt for all things tumblr. On the other hand, the show pretty much owes its success to that fan base, so take it as you will.

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if the fact that it's labeled "the Tumblr design" is part of it for other goons who aren't so fond of it.

Dark Grapefruit posted:

I didn't mean to come across as hating on the fans who draw him that way. Imagine him however you want, that's the whole point of leaving him mostly undescribed.

Fair enough. Tone can be hard to read on the Internet, after all.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist

TheJoker138 posted:

At the beginning, I basically imagined Cecil looking like Ira Glass. Now that I know what his voice actor looks like, I just imagine him looking like that.

I watched a live reading with Cecil Baldwin so now I just picture him as his voice actor.

Just googled the Fanart... that stuff is weird. It's like it's all done by the same two people. I don't know where they're all getting the same outfit from and the eyeball in the forehead.

Action Yak
Nov 9, 2008

Yeah, a lot of people on Tumblr are crazy, but there's plenty of sane people there too if you're careful about who you follow.
That said, I certainly can't blame you for hating it. Hell, I know that tons of people on Reddit are normal and that the mouth-breathing, fedora tipping MRAs are the minority, but I still avoid that place like the plague.

Silentman0
Jul 11, 2005

I have a new neighbor. Heard he comes from far away

TheJoker138 posted:

At the beginning, I basically imagined Cecil looking like Ira Glass. Now that I know what his voice actor looks like, I just imagine him looking like that.

I imagined him looking like Cecil Baldwin too, but then they mentioned that Palmer has hair and then well gently caress.

Conrad_Birdie
Jul 10, 2009

I WAS THERE
WHEN CODY RHODES
FINISHED THE STORY
I mean it's also Night Vale; imagine him looking however the gently caress you want him to look there's literally no "right" way, it's all in your head.

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
There are still times I imagine that there's nobody actually in the recording booth, just a voice that spontaneously emits out of anything vaguely metallic every evening. There was an episode early on where he ponders the existence of literally anyone and everything else, when rather he should have been doubting his own. Cecil Gershwin Palmer may someday prove to be limited and mortal, but the Voice of Nightvale is a thing that persists. Sorry, I don't really know where I'm going with this. It's like 2am over here.

Quad
Dec 31, 2007

I've seen pogs you people wouldn't believe
I'm about 8 episodes in. It's ok, but I hope the announcer gets better/more comfortable, or they eventually have guest announcers. Right now he sounds like someone trying to read something he thinks is really really funny with a straight face, and it feels like a lot of the comedic timing suffers. It gets better right?

Jurgan
May 8, 2007

Just pour it directly into your gaping mouth-hole you decadent slut

Quad posted:

I'm about 8 episodes in. It's ok, but I hope the announcer gets better/more comfortable, or they eventually have guest announcers. Right now he sounds like someone trying to read something he thinks is really really funny with a straight face, and it feels like a lot of the comedic timing suffers. It gets better right?

There are no guest announcers (well, maybe for one-and-a-half episodes), but yes, Cecil's delivery gets much better over time. I'd say by the end of the first "season" (around episode 25) he becomes a really strong actor.

Quad
Dec 31, 2007

I've seen pogs you people wouldn't believe
It feels like I'm hearing someone who was just given copy, and is reading it out loud for the first time, slowly, monotonously, over-enunciating, to make sure he "gets" each sentence, so that on the next take he can start to play with it, figuring out what to emphasize, where the comedy is, etc. But I'd rather hear the final take.

It's possible that I just don't love his delivery style, I listened all the way up to episode 27 tonight on my 12 hour shift. Looking forward to that book though!

Action Yak
Nov 9, 2008

YggiDee posted:

There are still times I imagine that there's nobody actually in the recording booth, just a voice that spontaneously emits out of anything vaguely metallic every evening. There was an episode early on where he ponders the existence of literally anyone and everything else, when rather he should have been doubting his own. Cecil Gershwin Palmer may someday prove to be limited and mortal, but the Voice of Nightvale is a thing that persists. Sorry, I don't really know where I'm going with this. It's like 2am over here.
This is actually a pretty common "headcanon" (ugh) - the Voice of Night Vale as a separate thing or entity that moves from host to host.



Also, yeah, I was kind of an rear end in a top hat earlier. I was trying to look cool, but now I feel bad. So, sorry or whatever.
It's not like the person got on JFink/Cranor's Twitter or something and started in like "how loving dare you", and I'm certainly in no position to dictate what other people should and shouldn't be offended by. Nobody is. poo poo, I don't think they were really even all that offended anyway.
Tl;dr: I'm an rear end in a top hat for e-cred.

Drunk Tomato
Apr 23, 2010

If God wanted us sober,
He'd knock the glass over.

Quad posted:

It feels like I'm hearing someone who was just given copy, and is reading it out loud for the first time, slowly, monotonously, over-enunciating, to make sure he "gets" each sentence, so that on the next take he can start to play with it, figuring out what to emphasize, where the comedy is, etc. But I'd rather hear the final take.

It's possible that I just don't love his delivery style, I listened all the way up to episode 27 tonight on my 12 hour shift. Looking forward to that book though!

To each his own, but you are in a lonely minority. I think the vast majority of people love Cecil, especially after he settles in after episode 5 or so.

Vince MechMahon
Jan 1, 2008



Yeah, after a few episodes he sounds basically like your standard NPR announcer to me. Then a bit later on as we start getting into more personal stuff he opens up on that a bit and starts putting more personality into it. That's the part I'm not sure I like.

Wandering Knitter
Feb 5, 2006

Meow
I like to think the in-universe reason Cecil's voice becomes more lively during the first season is because of :swoon:CARLOS:swoon: melting his freaky Night Vale heart.

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer

Wandering Knitter posted:

I like to think the in-universe reason Cecil's voice becomes more lively during the first season is because of :swoon:CARLOS:swoon: melting his freaky Night Vale heart.

That doesn't - or maybe somehow does - explain why he sounds more lively in "flashback" sequences.

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747
So I've been leaving the whole show on repeat in my room because it's wonderful background noise and there's a line I noticed in the first episode, one that I really hope they do something with at some point: "Well, we've all been scientists at one point in our lives"

Caros
May 14, 2008

BJPaskoff posted:

That doesn't - or maybe somehow does - explain why he sounds more lively in "flashback" sequences.

This is just funny, you thinking that time is all linear rather than merely our perception of it. Silly BJPaskoff.

Action Yak
Nov 9, 2008

Some men just want to watch the world burn.

Edit: poo poo, I had no idea that part B was out already. Thank god (or, actually, you I guess) we don't actually have to wait for 15 days on that cliffhanger.

Literally The Worst posted:

Yeah you just have to wait 20 minutes for that thing from the end of Part A to be resolved stop toying with my emotions
I'm... not sure if you're making fun of me, but I downloaded part A right as it came out and went to bed immediately after listening to it. I didn't know part B was up until this morning.

Action Yak fucked around with this message at 19:28 on Jun 15, 2015

Rumda
Nov 4, 2009

Moth Lesbian Comrade
Kevin always does such a great job at bringing the cheerful creepy

BENGHAZI 2
Oct 13, 2007

by Cyrano4747

Action Yak Police posted:

Some men just want to watch the world burn.

Edit: poo poo, I had no idea that part B was out already. Thank god (or, actually, you I guess) we don't actually have to wait for 15 days on that cliffhanger.

Yeah you just have to wait 20 minutes for that thing from the end of Part A to be resolved stop toying with my emotions

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sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth
I think it's real unfair that a podcast that started with stuff like 'ha ha don't look at the dog park' makes me feel things. I'd like an apology from all the staff please.

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