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Shart Carbuncle
Aug 4, 2004

Star Trek:
The Motion Picture

Captain Invictus posted:

Cool, done. Is there a way to see the list of games other people have suggested, or are you just assuming(rightfully so) it's a huge backlog?

They've said "on air" how big it is. I forget, but, like, they'll be dead before they get to everything at this rate.

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C-Euro
Mar 20, 2010

:science:
Soiled Meat
WOFF guys you forgot to mention the best part about the King of All Cosmos, which is the weird record-scratch noise he makes when he speaks (I haven't listened to the Extrasode yet so I have no idea if anyone else pointed that out)

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.
I try to keep the Abject Suffering list groomed. I remove games we've already played, I remove duplicate entries (while still keeping track of who suggested what).

Right now the list stands at 614 games, which is enough to do the show for 12 years if the faucet turned off right now.

As we keep saying, though, games are chosen at random... but suggesting a game multiple times doesn't make it more likely to pop up.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Are you able to post the list, or do you prefer to keep it secret?

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.
I'd rather keep it private for a couple of reasons:

1. It stops being useful if people see it as a way of publicly trolling or communicating.

2. I don't want someone to see that a game they want to suggest is already on the list, and then not suggest it. If they have some good comments to add, those will come along with multiple suggestions.

The Suggest a Game stuff is weird. The Abject Suffering form is pretty legit and chill. People don't gently caress around. But the WOFF! form occasionally gets people suggesting we play "my dick". And right now, someone is filling it with titles of the grossest erotic visual novels that Japan has to offer (like "Ultimate Boob Wars" and "Harem Party"). It's funny, but annoying because I have to spend real time administering that list.

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

Song For The Deaf posted:

But the WOFF! form occasionally gets people suggesting we play "my dick". And right now, someone is filling it with titles of the grossest erotic visual novels that Japan has to offer (like "Ultimate Boob Wars" and "Harem Party"). It's funny, but annoying because I have to spend real time administering that list.

I want you guys to cover my top 5 and you've already done FF6, Super Metroid, and Morrowind; what makes those so different from Ultimate Boob Wars and Harem Panty?

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Ultimate Boob Wars is a work of art and I will FIGHT you if you besmirch its name any further, sir.

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
I enjoyed the last episode of IT. I understand what jake means about tf2 getting bogged down with new weapons but honestly I'm a long time player and I just play for the most part with the original weapons on the classes I play. Getting new weapons in tf2 isn't any advantage.

Just don't use quick play and join valve servers. You can set in your options to not download any sounds ever you can also disable "motd" which stops those splash screen adverts. But I understand his general criticisms.

Glad to hear more of your hat updates invictus. I have to say that I have played tf2 pretty much from the start and still only have basic hats. Not that I mind but it would be cool if they would randomly drop.

I have to say that the hat trading thing is almost a completely separate game. All the people I play with have obscene amounts of hours and we rarely see any one with an unusual hat. I guess they are trading not playing? Who knows.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Well, in my case, I spent well over a thousand hours playing TF2 over the years, and just kinda burnt out on it eventually. The economic aspect on the other hand I've continued on with.

HMS Boromir
Jul 16, 2011

by Lowtax
I suggested a bunch of stuff for Abject Suffering recently and for some reason I kept mixing up the field for my name and the one for the game title. One or two might have slipped through, so if there's suddenly a bunch of requests to play a nonexistent game called ARCHIVE LOVER, my b.

Woffle
Jul 23, 2007

I shudder to think of the kind of feedback we'd receive if we did one of these erotic novels. I get called a prude fairly frequently and we get called out for mentioning anything remotely sexist in games. Not that all erotic visual novels are sexist (I'm guessing?) but I can imagine that there's some troubling poo poo going on in that world.

Opposing Farce
Apr 1, 2010

Ever since our drop-off service, I never read a book.
There's always something else around, plus I owe the library nineteen bucks.

Woffle posted:

I shudder to think of the kind of feedback we'd receive if we did one of these erotic novels. I get called a prude fairly frequently and we get called out for mentioning anything remotely sexist in games. Not that all erotic visual novels are sexist (I'm guessing?) but I can imagine that there's some troubling poo poo going on in that world.

Let's just say that "Harem Wars" and "Ultimate Boob Party" are probably actually nowhere near the grossest anime porn games Japan has to offer.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
SA still has the Awful Hentai Reviews, right? Remember Water Closet? Yeah.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Some of the boxes that those games come in are hilariously large, too. I saw a decent number of new PS2 games that had A3 sized boxes to store all of the extra goodies. ErIog and I went to a store that had an entire floor for doujinshi and we were both optimistic that it wasn't going to be all porn. It was all porn.

E: also going to the arcades was weird because there were a bunch of gambling/chance games that had like boobie mermaids and stuff, and there'd be a middle aged woman feeding coins into it.

Phone fucked around with this message at 20:54 on Jun 5, 2015

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Song For The Deaf posted:

I'd rather keep it private for a couple of reasons:

1. It stops being useful if people see it as a way of publicly trolling or communicating.

2. I don't want someone to see that a game they want to suggest is already on the list, and then not suggest it. If they have some good comments to add, those will come along with multiple suggestions.

The Suggest a Game stuff is weird. The Abject Suffering form is pretty legit and chill. People don't gently caress around. But the WOFF! form occasionally gets people suggesting we play "my dick". And right now, someone is filling it with titles of the grossest erotic visual novels that Japan has to offer (like "Ultimate Boob Wars" and "Harem Party"). It's funny, but annoying because I have to spend real time administering that list.
It's quite possibly a dude angry about you acknowledging sexism exists in God Hand

moller
Jan 10, 2007

Swan stole my music and framed me!
Stuart Gordon chat?! The film Gary couldn't think of the name of was Dolls. I hope when you were talking about his lesser works you didn't mean RobotJox.



Edit: Did Kole make a "Daves I Know" reference on WOFF after listening to Shame Based Man in response to Gary's weird little sidetrack about Lift Me Up on Abject Suffering?

moller fucked around with this message at 23:45 on Jun 5, 2015

Sexy Randal
Jul 26, 2006

woah

Captain Invictus posted:

Ah, sorry guys, it seems like I was a bit too technical and plodding with my hat chat email, I had a feeling I might've been a bit too sterile with my rundown of why the TF2 economy is declining. If I send one those to you and you don't feel it fits in the podcast or drones on too long, you don't have to read it. It sounded like Jake and Chris were hesitant to dive into it at all at the start there.

As a reader I love your emails CI. What a weird goddamned thing the steam economy is...

Twitch
Apr 15, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

Song For The Deaf posted:

I'd rather keep it private for a couple of reasons:

1. It stops being useful if people see it as a way of publicly trolling or communicating.

2. I don't want someone to see that a game they want to suggest is already on the list, and then not suggest it. If they have some good comments to add, those will come along with multiple suggestions.

The Suggest a Game stuff is weird. The Abject Suffering form is pretty legit and chill. People don't gently caress around. But the WOFF! form occasionally gets people suggesting we play "my dick". And right now, someone is filling it with titles of the grossest erotic visual novels that Japan has to offer (like "Ultimate Boob Wars" and "Harem Party"). It's funny, but annoying because I have to spend real time administering that list.

I'm the guy who stuffed like 100 games into the Abject Suffering suggestion box, and even I think that suggesting porno games would be in bad taste.

Jordan7hm
Feb 17, 2011




Lipstick Apathy
The newest Level was good (as always). The shirt bit early on got weird. You backed off the point Kole, but I'm with you. Clothes like that are tacky. It's not about what's on the shirt either - if it were a sports team logo or something, it would be just as tacky.

Stan Taylor
Oct 13, 2013

Touched Fuzzy, Got Dizzy

Sexy Randal posted:

As a reader I love your emails CI. What a weird goddamned thing the steam economy is...

Also love when the thumbs read valve economy letters. I have been wondering what the deal is with the Dota trading scene lately. They recently made it so new items aren't able to be traded or sold until months after they are unlocked, I guess in an attempt to get people to buy chests/items directly? It's really confusing, and I don't think I remember a blog post about why they did that. Anyone know what's up with that, or how it's affected the trading scene? I don't know that Invictus ever posts his summaries here directly but it's something I've been confused by ever since they did it.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.

Jordan7hm posted:

The newest Level was good (as always). The shirt bit early on got weird. You backed off the point Kole, but I'm with you. Clothes like that are tacky. It's not about what's on the shirt either - if it were a sports team logo or something, it would be just as tacky.

I'm feeling contrite about overstating my case on that one. My personal taste doesn't apply to everyone, and I made it sound like I thought it ought to. Being that I sell shirts with my show logos on them, it's clear that I don't think "Shirt of a Thing" is a bad thing. I took my feelings about the gross way places like ThinkGeek commoditize nostalgia and projected it onto the people who have genuine good will towards the things they buy merch for.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

Stan Taylor posted:

Also love when the thumbs read valve economy letters. I have been wondering what the deal is with the Dota trading scene lately. They recently made it so new items aren't able to be traded or sold until months after they are unlocked, I guess in an attempt to get people to buy chests/items directly? It's really confusing, and I don't think I remember a blog post about why they did that. Anyone know what's up with that, or how it's affected the trading scene? I don't know that Invictus ever posts his summaries here directly but it's something I've been confused by ever since they did it.
That would be the most logical reason to restrict them, yes. Also, it prevents people from taking advantage of clueless folks as easily, which is handy too.

Someone posted a screenshot in a thread I can't remember of one of those trade-restricted items on the marketplace. A few were somehow able to be marketed, and they were sold at sky-high prices. Then it's literally just a straight line down to 10-15 cents on the price history graph the moment they became marketable.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow
Hey Gary, what's that H.P. Lovecraft podcast you mentioned in the Appendix for Old Yharnam? It's not in the notes.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Song For The Deaf posted:

I took my feelings about the gross way places like ThinkGeek commoditize nostalgia and projected it onto the people who have genuine good will towards the things they buy merch for.

I don't really think this is a thing? Your bit there sounded to me like the standard GBS self hating nerd / nerd making GBS threads on all other nerds routine, but without even a hint of self-awareness considering, you know, you run a series of podcasts about video games. Basically "my nostalgia and taste in media is good, everyone else is an idiot lol" You come off sounding sort of insufferable IMO

icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Jun 8, 2015

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
Thinkgeek sells tons of really stupid pointless garbage, but some of it's neat and makes for fun conversation pieces, so I'm glad they exist.

Song For The Deaf
Aug 10, 2006

I HAVE TO USE MY SOUND SWORD NOW.
That's why I feel bad. Listening to it later, and talking with people afterward, I realized that how I spoke about it on the show isn't exactly how I feel.

ONE YEAR LATER
Apr 13, 2004

Fry old buddy, it's me, Bender!
Oven Wrangler
But where else can I get a sweet bacon patterned tie lollllllll???

DoubleCakes
Jan 14, 2015

ONE YEAR LATER posted:

But where else can I get a sweet bacon patterned tie lollllllll???

Stuff For Smart Masses, indeed.

ONE YEAR LATER
Apr 13, 2004

Fry old buddy, it's me, Bender!
Oven Wrangler
To be fair, I don't care what other people wear and I have my own share of dorky poo poo but I also think most of the stuff that Thinkgeek sells is garbage. It's pop culture detritus.

Woffle
Jul 23, 2007

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Hey Gary, what's that H.P. Lovecraft podcast you mentioned in the Appendix for Old Yharnam? It's not in the notes.

Sorry I didn't include it. I've mentioned it a bunch so I put it on the permanent show note ban list with The Simpsons and House of Leaves.

It's the HP Lovecraft Literary Podcast. Honestly, when it was still covering primary works, it was my favorite and I still think it's really hard to top. I love those dudes.

http://hppodcraft.com/

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty

ONE YEAR LATER posted:

To be fair, I don't care what other people wear and I have my own share of dorky poo poo but I also think most of the stuff that Thinkgeek sells is garbage. It's pop culture detritus.

Yeah, but for every Tauntaun Sleeping Bag, there's a Tetris Digital Alarm Clock, which I used for a good while. Every time the numbers change, they come down from the top of the screen in the form of multiple tetris blocks that form the number at the bottom. I don't think I'd pay more then ten dollars for it, but for free, I had to get it.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。

ONE YEAR LATER posted:

To be fair, I don't care what other people wear and I have my own share of dorky poo poo but I also think most of the stuff that Thinkgeek sells is garbage. It's pop culture detritus.

I remember being amazed by it back in like 2002 or 2003; however, I was in high school and had no money. Pop culture detritus is quire accurate.

I think all of my non-collared shirts that are prints of some sort are like fairly obscure game stuff or a bunch of old shirts from the Venture Bros t-shirt club. Or shirts I got for "free" by doing a track weekend with a car club.

The Vosgian Beast
Aug 13, 2011

Business is slow

Woffle posted:

Sorry I didn't include it. I've mentioned it a bunch so I put it on the permanent show note ban list with The Simpsons and House of Leaves.

It's the HP Lovecraft Literary Podcast. Honestly, when it was still covering primary works, it was my favorite and I still think it's really hard to top. I love those dudes.

http://hppodcraft.com/

Thanks!

Also when you do that podcast covering Lovecraft influences in Bloodborne, I'd bring up The Colour Out Of Space, which has a theme of lurking corruption messing things up. Also it's my favorite Lovecraft story.

Baku
Aug 20, 2005

by Fluffdaddy

icantfindaname posted:

You come off sounding sort of insufferable IMO

i got this burn from last month's loot crate :buddy:

dijon du jour
Mar 27, 2013

I'm shy

Zombies' Downfall posted:

i got this burn from last month's loot crate :buddy:

I heard it goes great with the inflatable crown.

Woffle
Jul 23, 2007

The Vosgian Beast posted:

Thanks!

Also when you do that podcast covering Lovecraft influences in Bloodborne, I'd bring up The Colour Out Of Space, which has a theme of lurking corruption messing things up. Also it's my favorite Lovecraft story.

I'm interested what others think are direct influences. Colour is pretty good and From Beyond seems obvious to me. One of the reasons Bloodborne is such a neat take on a Mythos story is that it takes place after the cults have won, more or less. It's progressed to a point Lovecraft's prose never gets to.

HMS Boromir
Jul 16, 2011

by Lowtax
While Drakkhen is still fresh in everyone's minds, I'd like to make sure you all see whatever the hell this is. The SNES version is apparently slightly different sounding.

PaletteSwappedNinja
Jun 3, 2008

One Nation, Under God.
Inexplicably, Drakkhen is one of Hideki Kamiya's favourite games.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
I can't remember which person is Gary here, but thanks for giving Axiom Verge a try, even if you didn't stick with it. I will agree that there are quite a few dead ends that have obtuse as hell hidden tricks, and the map could definitely use an indicator for what map spaces have items in them still, but even without a walkthrough I still got 81% of all the items on my own. There's a few incredibly weird ones that no rational person would find that involve various passwords and one even requires manually translating the alien text on an easily-missed unique texture, but for the most part the puzzles for items are pretty simple. It sounds like neither of you got far enough to get the teleport dash, which allows you to teleport through 2-tile-wide walls, which will allow access to the majority of secrets. And once you get the Red Labcoat, you'll have the ability to dash through destroyable blocks, which will open up every secret area possible, I believe.

The various movement-improving abilities you get as you progress are wide and varied, from the teleport dash to the drone swap. I assume the "trusted sources" include Giant Bomb, because the Quick Look switches to an endgame profile around 30 minutes in where he showcases a lot of the various weapons and abilities, and I would almost say you get more variety and quality of movement than in a Metroid game(space jump/screw attack notwithstanding).

I would say keep playing until you get to the hallucination sequence at least. That there is probably the most creative thing in the entire game, for sure. Also, creepiest and most H.R. Geiger-esque. Now that I've had some time to dwell on it, there are places that the game could be improved, most especially the map. I still think it's perfect for me, as my second favorite Metroid game is Metroid 2 and it evokes that game more than any of the others, most obviously with the glitch world(Metroid 2 has a memory manipulation trick where hammering select while falling opens up gaps in the world due to data interruption, demonstrated here) and the wide open world that is easy to get lost in. I will admit I had a few scenarios similar to yours, but kept at it and eventually figured it out. He definitely could have put more hints on where you should be headed in certain situations, for sure.

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ONE YEAR LATER
Apr 13, 2004

Fry old buddy, it's me, Bender!
Oven Wrangler
The latest episode of Abject Suffering is amazing, Clit Clown had me dying.

Vote 4 Nite Mayor.

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