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Kyrosiris posted:I'm talking specifically about the Berserkers' babysitter, since the argument is Thief vs Monk. Someone who gets four turns to their competition's 3 is absolutely my jam. In that case, you definitely want the Monk. You get something like twice as much HP, and that matters a lot if you're caring about the fourth party member. 15 more Agility isn't going to help nearly as much, since you'll have to spend more actions on healing yourself.
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Mikl posted:Since I registered for the fiesta I haven't touched the game (I had never played it before either). I'm planning to go in 100% blind. On a scale of 1 to 10, how bad an idea is this?  Dug out the ol' Gameboy Micro earlier this week and it's charged and ready to go!
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So out of curiosity which is the worse party to get on a Classic run, four White Mages or four Monks? I feel like the answer is "Obviously four Monks" but maybe there's something I'm forgetting, like some late game boss that absorbs Holy or something which would make four White Mages much more of a pain.
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Four White Mages is technically stronger by the endgame, but you'll commit suicide long before you reach that point.
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Twelve by Pies posted:So out of curiosity which is the worse party to get on a Classic run, four White Mages or four Monks? Four White Mages is tedious and an enormous slog to get to Holy. One you get it, you have won at everything save Omega. Four Monks plows through world one and hits a huge roadblock in most of world two's hard bosses (to say nothing of world three and the void). They're studies in opposites, really.
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I imagine that that both Team White and Team Punch are going to need a lot of grinding. White Mages so they can kill stuff before running out of MP, and Monks because their attack damage is based heavily on level. Probably the biggest wall for both teams is going to be Byblos. White Mages will need a lot of levels and/or luck to overcome his Drain counters, while Monks need similar requirements to get past his stupid-high Evasion before Wind Slash cuts them all down.
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Twelve by Pies posted:So out of curiosity which is the worse party to get on a Classic run, four White Mages or four Monks? I'd say four Monks is worse. White Mages have a lot more tools to actually win, where Monks have "level and hope for crits." White Mages also have the easiest time against Exdeath, while the hardest early boss (Byblos) is hard for both.
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Bufuman posted:I imagine that that both Team White and Team Punch are going to need a lot of grinding. White Mages so they can kill stuff before running out of MP, and Monks because their attack damage is based heavily on level. Hello, I had four white mages last year. The only "hard" bosses are Byblos and Atomos. Byblos you HAVE to run out of mp, there's no way to ever do more damage through protect than Drain can hit. I think I was level 25 at that point. I ran from most things because it was a slog. Atomos was annoying and I fought him while healing because running him out of mp is ridiculous. After that it's a breeze. Still wasn't much higher than 32 By hard I mean tedious. Edit: A cursory glance at Sulla's solo monk challenge shows him doing 1300 damage to Atomos at level 41. So I think monks would be worse and way more grindy. VietTam fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Jun 7, 2015 |
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Mikl posted:Since I registered for the fiesta I haven't touched the game (I had never played it before either). I'm planning to go in 100% blind. On a scale of 1 to 10, how bad an idea is this? if 1 is good and 10 is bad, it's a 1. Just do it. If you get stuck anywhere there are plenty of tools and info available, and a ton of goons that have played this game 8 billion times or whatever. Just do it.
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Has it been confirmed that you can get multiple of the same jobs through a Chaos run?
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OzFactor posted:Is there anywhere I can get Reflect Rings (Wall Rings) in World 2 after beating the crystals? I'm going to need something to keep up with Exdeath as I'm pretty sure any -aga is going to one-shot any one of my party. If I don't have any way to reflect I guess I'll just have to tank at the beginning of the fight until I song my way to eight turns for every one of his. I managed to do it with the crystals even with four of them hitting me (double singing may or may not stack but it helps to have twice the chance for a song to continue while you're getting pounded on). Trip report: got up there just to see how it would go and I bowled straight through him without even a single death. I was fully prepared to have the Bard suck when I drew it, but good lord it is the best class in the game, and my Black Mage is a give-no-gently caress nuke machine. Oh, cool, neat, Exdeath, you can attack twice per round? I can fully heal the entire party with potions and then hit you three times and rod-boosted firaga your rear end twice before you can hit me again. I'm bound to get a really lovely party when this officially starts, aren't I? I will reiterate that this is, like, way more fun than every other time I've tried to play this game (and I've tried like ten times). Before this I'd never even made it to World 2.
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Capsaicin posted:Has it been confirmed that you can get multiple of the same jobs through a Chaos run? People are assuming so because the description of berserker risk at the bottom includes the following: quote:This is the only way
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I'm coming up on the final boss. Is there any equipment or abilities that are absolutely required for success? I have a knight/summoner/ninja/samurai party. My major concern is I have no reliable means of healing outside of items. Everyone is around level 45, and I have all the summons. I figure I'll just coin toss and throw everything I have and hope for the best.
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Finally dug out the ol' FFV:A cartridge. Time to reacquaint myself and ready up for FIESTA!
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quote:Since I registered for the fiesta I haven't touched the game (I had never played it before either). I'm planning to go in 100% blind. On a scale of 1 to 10, how bad an idea is this? I think FF5 is best experienced with the FJF. In the vanilla run you can get too paralyzed with options and waste time grinding and get burnt out. The FJF forces you to think "With all the tools available, how can I beat this boss?". If you have all the tools, you'll be running back and forth with classes scrambling for the OPTIMAL solution and just hate the experience. The FJF is amazing and the best way to get into FF5, which is also the best Final Fantasy. Ithaqua posted:I'm coming up on the final boss. Is there any equipment or abilities that are absolutely required for success? I have a knight/summoner/ninja/samurai party. My major concern is I have no reliable means of healing outside of items. Everyone is around level 45, and I have all the summons. I figure I'll just coin toss and throw everything I have and hope for the best. The problem with NED is that you pretty much need a certain amount of HP to eat his big nuke (Almagest), but beyond that it's not terribly difficult. However there's some neat poo poo your comp is capable of: If you're torn between Dual Wield or DblGrip, just take an Aegis shield. It has a flat chance to just block any spell which can help mitigate a lot of the final boss's major attacks (there's one in particular in the first form that's a total pain) Have 4 running shoes and use Carbuncle/Golem to mitigate damage. These are the two best summons in the game. Use Magus Rod/Air Lancet + Syldra. It's the strongest summon when boosted and has a good cost for the bang Steal Ragnarok off the "top" section of the final boss and put it on your knight. With Dual Wield/Dbl Grip, your damage will skyrocket. Defender can cast protect in battle and is very useful for buffing up against some of those Vacuum waves. Otherwise just have fun and use elixers. Once you slam down a few pieces of the final boss he isn't that hard and healing magic isn't essential by any means.
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Amgard posted:I think FF5 is best experienced with the FJF. In the vanilla run you can get too paralyzed with options and waste time grinding and get burnt out. The FJF forces you to think "With all the tools available, how can I beat this boss?". If you have all the tools, you'll be running back and forth with classes scrambling for the OPTIMAL solution and just hate the experience. I haven't done the fiesta before, but even before it I was doing self-made challenge runs because your first time can be as you say, and then once you get past that, it's real easy to just slip right into ridiculous uber-builds where you !X-Fight dual wield Magic swords and poo poo and just tear every enemy a new rear end in a top hat with no effort.
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Ithaqua posted:I'm coming up on the final boss. Is there any equipment or abilities that are absolutely required for success? I have a knight/summoner/ninja/samurai party. My major concern is I have no reliable means of healing outside of items. Everyone is around level 45, and I have all the summons. I figure I'll just coin toss and throw everything I have and hope for the best. Typical endgame levels are 35-40. The big thing is you need ~1800 HP to survive Almagest. If you have that, then the next biggest threats are Delta Attack and Grand Cross. Delta Attack is handled by using the Magic Lamp until Odin pops out and kills that part for you*. Alternatively, cast Carbuncle and then Delta Attack as well as all of that part's spells are handled for you. If you're really lucky, Delta Attack will reflect and kill the bottom Almagest part for you. Keep Golem up, of course. After that, if you're an experienced hand at Neo Exdeath, you'll get it no problem. If you're not, you'll become one in short order. One thing to note: there are four parts of Neo Exdeath:  That left one casts spells and Delta Attack and is vulnerable to Odin from the Magic Lamp. The bottom one casts Almagest and is vulnerable to Petrify from the Magic Lamp or the Summoner. The top right one uses physical moves and Dispel. The top left one casts Grand Cross. Normally, each part acts with gaps in its scripting so attacks come at the normal rate of a one part boss. However, if only one part is left, it'll enter a sort of "berserk" mode and start acting non-stop, and adding some mean stuff like Meteor into the mix. Try to kill the last two evenly if you can, and if you can't, then just go on full offense. Don't worry if you die a few times or more: Neo Exdeath is one of the harder final bosses in the series.
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What is the lowest level you can reasonable be at to get the wind jobs?
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gatesealer posted:What is the lowest level you can reasonable be at to get the wind jobs? 1? You get them immediately and Wing Raptor is a chump.
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gatesealer posted:What is the lowest level you can reasonable be at to get the wind jobs? Whatever level you are after the forced goblin fights at the start. Wing Raptor is a joke and all randoms to that point are easy to escape.
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You can beat the game at the default levels if you really wanted. Dr. Pepper did a great LP doing just that (would link but tablet posting).
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Mega64 posted:You can beat the game at the default levels if you really wanted. Dr. Pepper did a great LP doing just that (would link but tablet posting). Here it is. Note that a low level run requires more than four jobs.
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I thought the low level route requires level 5 death.
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Mega64 posted:You can beat the game at the default levels if you really wanted. Dr. Pepper did a great LP doing just that (would link but tablet posting). Here! e: beaten dis astranagant posted:I thought the low level route requires level 5 death. Maybe? FF5 is pretty exploit heavy so there's a lot of things you could do. Luckily minimum XP does let you have Lv5 Death available.
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ultrafilter posted:Here it is. Note that a low level run requires more than four jobs. Gonna have to read that after I finish the LP for the trainwreck that is Lunar:Dragon Song.
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Just finished FF5 for the first time, and thus my first FJF  I had to redo my abilities and equipment a few times and make heavy use of Phoenix, elixirs, and coin toss, but it only took me about 5 tries.
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Alcharagia, consider the debt settled: (this also counts as my "leave a berserker" element of the "take a berserker, leave a berserker" compact)
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Kyrosiris posted:Alcharagia, consider the debt settled: My work here is done... 
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Kyrosiris posted:Alcharagia, consider the debt settled:
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theshim posted:What's the speed trap? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MQJF5E2Sgk A really easy to avoid pit that you really only fall into if you're using fast forward on an emulator.
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BottleKnight posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MQJF5E2Sgk You can also run into it if you have dash equipped and are using the GBA B=run Other than battle speed that might as well be fast forward
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Okay, that's just wonderful  Looking forward to the fiesta already.
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dis astranagant posted:I thought the low level route requires level 5 death. You could theoretically learn L5 Death at level 1 by abusing chemist mixes.
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alcharagia posted:Oh, and I fell in it a total of 106 times over my 9 playthroughs last year. Someone is getting a berserker 100% funded by alcharagia's inability to avoid the speed trap 
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ultrafilter posted:Here it is. Note that a low level run requires more than four jobs. I bet I could do a Low Level Fiesta as long as I got Bard and/or Chemist. Dr Pepper fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Jun 8, 2015 |
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Poque posted:any idea why RK dropped the donation goal this year? I think we're out of FF games for him to hate-play?
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Kyrosiris posted:I think we're out of FF games for him to hate-play? Did he do FF8? Every play of that is a hate-play.
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