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FRINGE
May 23, 2003
title stolen for lf posting
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/what-the-fck-dude-watch-austin-cop-pepper-spray-man-for-filming-an-arrest/

quote:

‘What the f*ck dude!': Watch Austin cop pepper spray man for filming an arrest

...

Tucker’s video shows officers picking a black man — who remains silent throughout the filming and whose crime is unclear — off the ground, and escort him in handcuffs away from a gathering mass of onlookers. Some police are on horseback, and use the horses’ bodies to push back the crowd from the street onto the sidewalk. “Hey, watch the gently caress where you going with your loving horses,” someone can he heard saying in Tucker’s video.

And then, a cop smacks a camera phone from a man’s hand, and pepper sprays him in full view of Tucker’s lens.

...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UamMIKpW_NY

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GonSmithe
Apr 25, 2010

Perhaps it's in the nature of television. Just waves in space.
So apparently the officer in the McKinney video added one of the videos of him assaulting the girl to his YouTube playlist "Police training" yesterday.

http://gawker.com/did-the-mckinney-cop-watch-video-of-himself-terrorizing-1709690822

quote:

Decase73’s Youtube playlist features a dozen videos with titles like “Man Attacks Baltimore Police Officer,” “Man Sucker-Punches Cop Gets Kicked in the Face,” and “Chief tells the TRUTH that Black People don’t want to hear.” All would appear to reflect a mindset that police officers are entitled to use any and all force necessary to subjugate those they ostensibly protect and serve.

Yesterday, the video of Casebolt manhandling a teenage girl and pointing his gun at two boys was added to the playlist.

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA
Jesus Christ, that shitbag needs to be jailed for assault. Absolutely shameful. Maybe they can burn down the gated community while they're at it.

SpeedGem
Sep 19, 2012

by Ralp
“There have been a number of rumors circulating on social media today regarding inmate Mitchell Brad Martinez. This afternoon, Sheriff Loar spoke to the media regarding this case. Videos were shared with the media of Inmate Martinez entering the transport van and upon his arrival at the Indian River County Sheriff’s Office. He was transported with seven other male inmates in the rear compartment, despite being separated. Both Corrections Transport Deputies reported no stops and the 8 minutes of elapsed time is consistent with the time it would take to drive the transport van from the Indian River County Courthouse to the Indian River County Jail. Upon arrival at the jail, deputies found Inmate Martinez unresponsive and began performing CPR on him as they awaited arrival of EMS. Inmate Martinez was then transported to Indian River Memorial Hospital where he remains on life support. At this time, we continue to investigate this incident to determine what may have caused Inmate Martinez to become unresponsive. Attached is the video of the transport van as it arrived at the Indian River County Jail.” The department wrote on Facebook when uploading the video.

http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2015/06/florida-man-mysteriously-dies-in-police-custody-after-8-minute-transport-ride-to-jail/

Really?

SpeedGem
Sep 19, 2012

by Ralp
In December, the autopsy report was finally released and it backed up witness statements of Ford being shot in the back as he lay on the ground.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/police-justified-shooting-innocent-mentally-ill-man-point-blank-range/#gsKRFcYZvqjaxBWe.16

You wonder why people hate cops, here you go.

Cugel the Clever
Apr 5, 2009
I LOVE AMERICA AND CAPITALISM DESPITE BEING POOR AS FUCK. I WILL NEVER RETIRE BUT HERE'S ANOTHER 200$ FOR UKRAINE, SLAVA
Soooooo how objectionable would it be to toss what is most likely Cpl. Eric Casebolt's personal email address at #McKinney on Twitter? I mean, it doesn't take much effort to deduce that one only need to add @gmail.com onto the username he has on Google+.

Bullfrog
Nov 5, 2012

http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/kalief-browder-1993-2015

quote:

Last fall, I wrote about a young man named Kalief Browder, who spent three years on Rikers Island without being convicted of a crime. He had been arrested in the spring of 2010, at age sixteen, for a robbery he insisted he had not committed. Then he spent more than one thousand days on Rikers waiting for a trial that never happened. During that time, he endured about two years in solitary confinement, where he attempted to end his life several times.
...
Last Monday, Prestia, who had filed a lawsuit on Browder’s behalf against the city, noticed that Browder had put up a couple of odd posts on Facebook. When Prestia sent him a text message, asking what was going on, Browder insisted he was O.K. “Are you sure everything is cool?” Prestia wrote. Browder replied: “Yea I’m alright thanks man.” The two spoke on Wednesday, and Browder did seem fine. On Saturday afternoon, Prestia got a call from Browder’s mother: he had committed suicide.

SpeedGem
Sep 19, 2012

by Ralp
Philly Police Violate Policy 80 Percent Of The Time When Shooting At Moving Cars

http://policestatedaily.com/philly-police-violate-policy-80-percent-of-the-time-when-shooting-at-moving-cars/

Yeah.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
Remember: always be filming (also lol at the kid filming getting his selfie cameo in)

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=230_1433710537

edit: poo poo, beaten on the Austin thing. woops. Also, always be refreshing :downs:

FRINGE posted:

Cops Caught Forcing Massage Parlor Employees To Grope Them

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK7JbHNRKB4

(Until recently cops in Hawaii could trick prostitutes into actually having actual sex with the cops as long as it was part of "a sting". As many times as necessary of course.)

Despite generally appreciating what it is The Young Turks are trying to expose, I cannot cringe my way through any of their videos, because the style of narration and lack of production skill is so grating holy poo poo. "Hey, you stumbled over 1/3 of all the words you said, but gently caress doing a second take, good enough for TYT. Also I'm gonna need a lot more over-the-top disgust and anger but could you bring the charisma down through the floor please; our test demo just showed that at least 3 people still are not annoyed by you."

Cugel the Clever posted:

Soooooo how objectionable would it be to toss what is most likely Cpl. Eric Casebolt's personal email address at #McKinney on Twitter? I mean, it doesn't take much effort to deduce that one only need to add @gmail.com onto the username he has on Google+.

gently caress that poo poo. It's unnecessary, and someone else will probably be that rear end in a top hat before you. Doxxing is low and out of control and would only make sense in this case if he did something like loving flee the country.

Also, I haven't read it, but this book seems interesting: http://www.amazon.com/So-Youve-Been-Publicly-Shamed/dp/1594487138

mlmp08 fucked around with this message at 03:45 on Jun 8, 2015

Yawgmoft
Nov 15, 2004

I remember that story. That was really sad. Hell of a way for it to end.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
The first time I saw the pool video, I thought maybe he drew his taser on the two kids that were confronting him when he was trying to take down the girl and was surprised that other cops showed up so quickly to make him chill the gently caress out and put that poo poo away. Then I realized he pulled his gun :stare:

SpeedGem
Sep 19, 2012

by Ralp
Multiple sources are reporting that earlier today, in uniform and in public, two BPD officers were involved in a physical dispute that landed one in the ER. Sources and witnesses from the scene are reporting that two officers were involved in a verbal altercation that nearly turned deadly when one officer got into his police car and ran the other one over.

http://bayonnelocal.com/2015/06/friendly-fire-cop-on-cop-dispute-lands-one-officer-in-hospital/

Dazzling Addar
Mar 27, 2010

He may have a funny face, but he's THE BEST KONG
the cop community needs to teach its youth about this self destructive thug culture

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

So on the one hand the McKinney rageaholic cop felt the need to run after the kids who were running away, and them MAKING him run after them angered him. When, uh, he could have just let them run away. So those kids had to be detained and stay on the ground. On the other hand some other kids made him mad because they wouldn't leave, to the point where he had to throw the one girl on the ground and sit on her.

I don't see a coherent concept behind what's happening beside to just intimidate people and rage out.

SpeedGem
Sep 19, 2012

by Ralp

Zwabu posted:

So on the one hand the McKinney rageaholic cop felt the need to run after the kids who were running away, and them MAKING him run after them angered him. When, uh, he could have just let them run away. So those kids had to be detained and stay on the ground. On the other hand some other kids made him mad because they wouldn't leave, to the point where he had to throw the one girl on the ground and sit on her.

I don't see a coherent concept behind what's happening beside to just intimidate people and rage out.

using drugs like methamphetamine and steroids are at an all time high in police departments. Didn't you watch training day with samuel jackson?

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
I am not surprised AT ALL this happened in suburban Dallas, let alone McKinney. A couple of years ago some friends were renting a house in McKinney, and I was over there; the neighbor is outside and we start talking, and he's concerned about some black people fishing in a nearby pond because they didn't seem like they were "from around here."

Zwabu
Aug 7, 2006

GonSmithe posted:

So apparently the officer in the McKinney video added one of the videos of him assaulting the girl to his YouTube playlist "Police training" yesterday.

http://gawker.com/did-the-mckinney-cop-watch-video-of-himself-terrorizing-1709690822

:laugh: they made him take down the videos apparently. The profile exists but there are no videos or playlists.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Zwabu posted:

So on the one hand the McKinney rageaholic cop felt the need to run after the kids who were running away, and them MAKING him run after them angered him. When, uh, he could have just let them run away. So those kids had to be detained and stay on the ground. On the other hand some other kids made him mad because they wouldn't leave, to the point where he had to throw the one girl on the ground and sit on her.

I don't see a coherent concept behind what's happening beside to just intimidate people and rage out.

Supposedly he was trying to pick out and detain all the alleged troublemakers as identified by not-police private security/pool employees but wanted everyone else to leave. So that probably leads to all sorts of confusion all around when police are telling some people to stay put and others to flee while running around yelling at people all based on whoever is getting pointed out from the crowd by some pool and/or housing employee (presumably, the heavyset white man running around next to the cop was one of those employees, there are a few times when he points kids out, and the cop tells them to sit down and not move). What a clusterfuck.

Even if the cop were being 100% professional, there comes a point where you just pick your battles. If you roll up on a group of dozens of kids who are pretty blatantly not going to cooperate with you and some of them were fighting, but not so grievously that there are obvious injuries, unconscious folk, dead people, maybe you just say "show's over go home" and call it a day. A small group of cops antagonizing rowdy teens isn't exactly going to make the situation better, even if their intentions were pure, and his seemed less than pure.

SpeedGem
Sep 19, 2012

by Ralp

mlmp08 posted:

Supposedly he was trying to pick out and detain all the alleged black troublemakers as identified by not-police private security/pool employees but wanted everyone else to leave. So that probably leads to all sorts of confusion all around when police are telling some people to stay put and others to flee black while running around yelling at people all based on whoever is getting pointed out from the crowd by some pool and/or housing employee (presumably, the heavyset white man running around next to the cop was one of those employees, there are a few times when he points black kids out, and the cop tells them to sit down and not move). What a clusterfuck.

Even if the cop were being 100% professional, there comes a point where you just pick your battles. If you roll up on a group of dozens of black kids who are pretty blatantly not going to cooperate with you and some of them were fighting, but not so grievously that there are obvious injuries, unconscious folk, dead people, maybe you just say "show's over go home" and call it a day. A small group of cops antagonizing rowdy teens isn't exactly going to make the situation better, even if their intentions were pure, and his seemed less than pure.

ftfy

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

If you'd changed it to "black male kids" your fix would actually be like 95% accurate :smith:

Grem
Mar 29, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 29 days!
It's amazing looking at Casebolt's youtube playlist, and all the "joint locks don't work!" videos. It's correct that they don't work as advertised, but that's just another reason to de-escelate rather than drag some poor girl that was hurting your feelings back while she's walking away.

tezcat
Jan 1, 2005

mlmp08 posted:

If you'd changed it to "black male kids" your fix would actually be like 95% accurate :smith:
Cept when heroic whitebread cop beats up the "black female kid". I'm not gonna be surprised if this guy's history ends up uncovering other times he assaulted other women.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

tezcat posted:

Cept when heroic whitebread cop beats up the "black female kid". I'm not gonna be surprised if this guy's history ends up uncovering other times he assaulted other women.

Technically speaking he told her to leave first and then raged out and started throwing her around and detained her later.

tezcat
Jan 1, 2005

mlmp08 posted:

Technically speaking he told her to leave first and then raged out and started throwing her around and detained her later.
Doesn't matter if its a technicality or not. Officer Aatrek is on leave and probably is gonna see more followup into his history. A guy who thinks its a good idea to throw that altercation on youtube as some kind of tutorial has got something loose in his head.

Shakenbaker
Nov 14, 2005



Grimey Drawer

SpeedGem posted:

Multiple sources are reporting that earlier today, in uniform and in public, two BPD officers were involved in a physical dispute that landed one in the ER. Sources and witnesses from the scene are reporting that two officers were involved in a verbal altercation that nearly turned deadly when one officer got into his police car and ran the other one over.

http://bayonnelocal.com/2015/06/friendly-fire-cop-on-cop-dispute-lands-one-officer-in-hospital/

Followed a link in that story to one that says the mayor's office is denying this happened. Kind of nuts, but if you read down you find out that maybe there's some chicanery going on with town politics:

quote:

One theory of a coverup comes from city hall insiders and politicos. The motive is simple: You need campaign signs to win elections. Officer Larino has been in charge of making sure that Mayor Davis and his Council and backed candidates have enough signs to flood the streets and trump the competition. Whether Mayor Davis and his Council and candidates paid for all of those signs or not…now that is a disputed topic.

I so want this to be the reason behind this all.

Pohl
Jan 28, 2005




In the future, please post shit with the sole purpose of antagonizing the person running this site. Thank you.

Shakenbaker posted:

Followed a link in that story to one that says the mayor's office is denying this happened. Kind of nuts, but if you read down you find out that maybe there's some chicanery going on with town politics:


I so want this to be the reason behind this all.

Especially since yard signs are worthless in elections and their use is way way way overrated.

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



About Kalief Browder:

quote:

His relatives recounted stories he’d told them about being starved and beaten by guards on Rikers. They spoke about his paranoia, about how he often suspected that the cops or some other authority figures were after him. His mother explained that the night before he told her, “Ma, I can’t take it anymore.” “Kalief, you’ve got a lot of people in your corner,” she told him.

quote:

As his father explained, he’d apparently decided that these torn strips of sheet were not strong enough. That afternoon, at about 12:15 P.M., he went into another bedroom, pulled out the air conditioner, and pushed himself out through the hole in the wall, feet first, with a cord wrapped around his neck. His mother was the only other person home at the time. After she heard a loud thumping noise upstairs, she went upstairs to investigate, but couldn’t figure out what had happened. It wasn’t until she went outside to the backyard and looked up that she realized that her youngest child had hanged himself.

That evening, in a room packed with family members, Prestia said, “This case is bigger than Michael Brown!” In that case, in which a police officer shot Brown, an unarmed teen-ager, in Ferguson, Missouri, Prestia recalled that there were conflicting stories about exactly what happened. And the incident took, he said, “one minute in time.” In the case of Kalief Browder, he said, “When you go over the three years that he spent [in jail] and all the horrific details he endured, it’s unbelievable that this could happen to a teen-ager in New York City. He didn’t get tortured in some prison camp in another country. It was right here!”

Goddamn.

snorch
Jul 27, 2009
I remember reading the Browder story and thinking this might be how it would end. The NY system effectively ruined his life on multiple fronts, and from that point on I could absolutely imagine suicide looking like a damned tasty option.

In conclusion, gently caress each and every person involved in drawing out the trial. gently caress them with an old punky broom handle.

Jarmak
Jan 24, 2005

snorch posted:

I remember reading the Browder story and thinking this might be how it would end. The NY system effectively ruined his life on multiple fronts, and from that point on I could absolutely imagine suicide looking like a damned tasty option.

In conclusion, gently caress each and every person involved in drawing out the trial. gently caress them with an old punky broom handle.

Has the right to a speedy trial not been incorporated? And how the gently caress does the prosecutor stopping the clock by saying their ready but not really being ready survive even the most half-assed of court challenges?

Agrajag
Jan 21, 2006

gat dang thats hot
I don't understand why he is kept in jail without a trial.

Lil Miss Clackamas
Jan 25, 2013

ich habe aids
Nothing about the US criminal justice system makes any sense, unless the idea was to terrorize citizens and imbue them with subservience to absolute authority.

icantfindaname
Jul 1, 2008


Chalets the Baka posted:

Nothing about the US criminal justice system makes any sense, unless the idea was to terrorize citizens and imbue them with subservience to absolute authority.

I've got some bad news for you

America's policies on crime are literally intended to terrorize poor urban minorities to make white middle class suburbanites feel safer. That's a feature, not a bug. In fact I would go so far as to say it's the only feature. That has been the entire raison d'etre of the American police establishment for decades now

icantfindaname fucked around with this message at 15:50 on Jun 8, 2015

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
Meanwhile, all of the white biker gang morons are expediting their trials because it'd be a bad thing if white folks didn't get a fair and speedy trial.

Lil Miss Clackamas
Jan 25, 2013

ich habe aids

icantfindaname posted:

That has been the entire raison d'etre of the American police establishment for decades now

Centuries, actually.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


This sort of thing is why the bleating of "would you want innocent people to go to jail? :ohdear:" concerns for people that intentionally put themselves in situations where they can kill someone then claim they were scared (and the victim ends up being unarmed) is so irritating. Our system has already decided that putting innocent people in jail, sometimes without even a trial is acceptable or at the very least not a big deal. Two wrongs don't make a right (putting Zimmerman or squatter killer in jail wouldn't have helped this kid), but it would be nice if everyone got some of this leniency we are supposed to be so concerned with.

Eggplant Squire fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Jun 8, 2015

nm
Jan 28, 2008

"I saw Minos the Space Judge holding a golden sceptre and passing sentence upon the Martians. There he presided, and around him the noble Space Prosecutors sought the firm justice of space law."

Phone posted:

Meanwhile, all of the white biker gang morons are expediting their trials because it'd be a bad thing if white folks didn't get a fair and speedy trial.

Different states have different definitions of what speedy trial is.
In California, it is statutory, 30d for an incustody misdo or 60d for felony (after 10d for the prelim). These cannot be waived by anyone but the defendant (not his lawyer, unless the lawyer shows good cause, which rarely happens) explictly (and on the record in felonies). This is apparently uncommon. If your state doesn't have a rule, it is only bound by the woefully long time allowed by the US Supreme Court which is "about as long as the DA needs."

Note that while CA has this one good thing, it also has corrupt DAs and extremely high bails. 25,000 is not uncommon for misdos without any FTAs. This is pretty hosed up as people out of custody always get better deals and are more likely to go to trial than incustodies. So, if you have money, you're going to do better.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Eh, I'm sure if we carefully go over every interaction Browder had with the police and courts during this ordeal and possibly his entire life, we'll find at least one instance where he did something dumb and brought it all on himself, that's how these things work.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


I'm sure he was no angel.

ElCondemn
Aug 7, 2005


SpeedGem posted:

Multiple sources are reporting that earlier today, in uniform and in public, two BPD officers were involved in a physical dispute that landed one in the ER. Sources and witnesses from the scene are reporting that two officers were involved in a verbal altercation that nearly turned deadly when one officer got into his police car and ran the other one over.

http://bayonnelocal.com/2015/06/friendly-fire-cop-on-cop-dispute-lands-one-officer-in-hospital/

Can't charge either of them, they were both scared for their lives!

tezcat posted:

Doesn't matter if its a technicality or not. Officer Aatrek is on leave and probably is gonna see more followup into his history. A guy who thinks its a good idea to throw that altercation on youtube as some kind of tutorial has got something loose in his head.

Lots of cops faced zero repercussions for doing worse, no reason to think he would get in trouble for it. Also I'm sure someone willingly posting poo poo like that loves the "haters", makes them feel good to be that powerful probably. People can't do poo poo to you but say mean things, meanwhile his whole support structure is probably encouraging him.

Tubesock Holocaust posted:

About Kalief Browder:
Goddamn.

Imprisonment is one of the worst things you can do to a person. It's the ultimate dominance over someone you can have, that's why police and people in the justice system are happy to do it. It makes them feel powerful.

Agrajag posted:

I don't understand why he is kept in jail without a trial.

Because people who this kind of thing happens to are either a) ignorant of their rights and/or b) have no resources to prevent this kind of thing from happening.

I'm sure this kind of thing happens all the time but you don't hear about it because people don't know it's not legal. If the courts, police and entire justice system isn't challenged there's nothing to stop them from abusing their power.

ElCondemn fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Jun 8, 2015

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ElCondemn
Aug 7, 2005


VitalSigns posted:

Eh, I'm sure if we carefully go over every interaction Browder had with the police and courts during this ordeal and possibly his entire life, we'll find at least one instance where he did something dumb and brought it all on himself, that's how these things work.

You should really make it more clear you're being sarcastic, there are other posters who believe this with all their hearts. The world would never allow this to happen to someone undeserving!

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