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Jun 8, 2015 20:40
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Enthralling victor's flavor is pretty amusing. He's just oh so dreamy and handsome.
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Jun 8, 2015 20:47
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I like to think that Victor is actually his name.
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Jun 8, 2015 20:48
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Bugsy posted:Aether adept is too good now? Seems to be a decent amount of Mage Rings in the flavor text so far. I mean 1UU is basically 3U so it's not that far off. Still costing a whole mana more than man-o'-war is pretty steep even if the typing is way better.
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Jun 8, 2015 20:49
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Would Mist Raven be too good?
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Jun 8, 2015 20:50
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Entropic posted:I like to think that Victor is actually his name. Doug Beyer confirmed that on Tumblr 
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Jun 8, 2015 20:50
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That Victor! He's so enthralling! 
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Jun 8, 2015 20:51
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Really hoping for a card w/ spoils in the name, like, hopefully an equipment so you can say "to the victor go the spoils".
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Jun 8, 2015 20:53
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Lieutenant Centaur posted:can you guys only post when cards get spoiled? mythicspoiler.com is the perfect place for you. You won't ever have to see anything but spoilers.
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Jun 8, 2015 20:55
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Entropic posted:Would Mist Raven be too good? Mist Raven is REALLY good, heck at 5 mana in Khan's Aven Surveyor was still really good. I think Mist Raven is probably to good, but I would love to see it back.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:01
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I fondly remember my AVR pre-release deck with 3 Mist Ravens and a Deadeye Navigator.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:04
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I'm super excited for Origins, but not excited about any of the spoiled cards. Also, I'm pretty new to this thread, so are these last few pages par for the course? That was horrible.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:17
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Blakkout posted:I'm super excited for Origins, but not excited about any of the spoiled cards. You should wait for the bad card evals. I am almost shocked nobody is debating the viability of the spoiled bulk rare dragon.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:19
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Sickening posted:You should wait for the bad card evals. I am almost shocked nobody is debating the viability of the spoiled bulk mythic rare dragon. Fixed that for you. So many feelbads in my future. 
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Jun 8, 2015 21:21
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Blakkout posted:I'm super excited for Origins, but not excited about any of the spoiled cards. I'm sorry if that was your first exposure to the thread on the basis that those types of discussions aren't necessarily fun. Most of the time we're just yelling at each other over other dumb stuff, though issues like that creep up from time to time. Sickening posted:You should wait for the bad card evals. I am almost shocked nobody is debating the viability of the spoiled bulk rare dragon. Who said we had to be doing it here? 
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Jun 8, 2015 21:21
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Blakkout posted:I'm super excited for Origins, but not excited about any of the spoiled cards. Other than the dragon, this is largely limited fodder, so yeah not the most interesting stuff.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:24
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Elyv posted:Other than the dragon, this is largely limited fodder, so yeah not the most interesting stuff. The limited cards are the most interesting stuff! I hate always having to wait until the big spoiler dump at the very end to get any sense of what the draft environment is going to look like.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:25
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Sickening posted:You should wait for the bad card evals. I am almost shocked nobody is debating the viability of the spoiled bulk rare dragon. There are plenty of forums where you can find someone describing the perfect scenario where you'd totally want a 4/4 flier without any other meaningful ability the turn it comes down other than discarding your loving hand.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:25
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if you want to read good posts, click the question mark over there <--
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Jun 8, 2015 21:28
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A good third of the cards spoiled so far either evade, give evasion or get one or more blockers out of the way. Might be a skewed sample but it's looking like there'll be a lot of sneaking damage through what would otherwise be a gummed up board.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:29
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Entropic posted:The limited cards are the most interesting stuff! I hate always having to wait until the big spoiler dump at the very end to get any sense of what the draft environment is going to look like. I mean yes, I agree, but it's not the cards that new players get really excited by and the ones that lead to pages of discussion.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:30
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Blakkout posted:I'm super excited for Origins, but not excited about any of the spoiled cards. Welcome aboard. No, the discussion usually isn't like that, sorry. And yeah, hyped for Origins.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:31
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Blakkout posted:I'm super excited for Origins, but not excited about any of the spoiled cards. Dont say anything and scroll, you soon learn who to just ignore.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:34
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I'm actually proud of this thread that we all pretty much agree that that dragon sucks.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:38
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Angry Grimace posted:There are plenty of forums where you can find someone describing the perfect scenario where you'd totally want a 4/4 flier without any other meaningful ability the turn it comes down other than discarding your loving hand. If the environment can get to a place where the predominantly played removal has trouble hitting a 4/4 for whatever reason, I could see it being a contender. The tension seems to be between it and something like the red siege, which doesn't have a drawback (aside from potentially stranding the card, which hardly ever matters) but also doesn't bash in for 4. The tiebreaker for siege is that it doesn't just eat a downfall or cut after you've already discarded your hand.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:39
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JerryLee posted:If the environment can get to a place where the predominantly played removal has trouble hitting a 4/4 for whatever reason, I could see it being a contender. The tension seems to be between it and something like the red siege, which doesn't have a drawback (aside from potentially stranding the card, which hardly ever matters) but also doesn't bash in for 4. The tiebreaker for siege is that it doesn't just eat a downfall or cut after you've already discarded your hand.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:42
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mcmagic posted:I'm actually proud of this thread that we all pretty much agree that that dragon sucks. I tried to evaluate it fairly elsewhere and this is what I came up with at the time: quote:It's in a weird position because Thunderbreak Regent already exists as a mana-efficient flyer that even punishes opponents for trying to kill it immediately (whereas this one doesn't), and Outpost Siege already exists as a 4cmc way to get card advantage in red without even being susceptible to creature removal (or losing your entire hand), so I doubt it makes it into RDW on that basis.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:43
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HMS Boromir posted:A good third of the cards spoiled so far either evade, give evasion or get one or more blockers out of the way. Might be a skewed sample but it's looking like there'll be a lot of sneaking damage through what would otherwise be a gummed up board. I think its skewed a bit for the first round of spoilers, but yeah there is decent amount of etb tapping/cant block. Hammerhands was underrated in M15 draft.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:45
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There was in fact another card that got spoiled that was interesting. Mizzium Interceptor (?) 2U Flash When Mizzium Interceptor enters the battlefield, change the target of target spell or ability to Mizzium Interceptor. 1/4
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Jun 8, 2015 21:46
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Angry Grimace posted:There was in fact another card that got spoiled that was interesting. Looks like a promo because that's the FNM PTE right behind it. Maybe the launch promo?
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Jun 8, 2015 21:47
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bhsman posted:I tried to evaluate it fairly elsewhere and this is what I came up with at the time: Unless I'm actually misunderstanding how GR Dragons works these days, I don't see why it would want to play Grafted Skullcap Dragon. GR Dragons seems to be all about just playing out fat dragons until one of them kills your opponent. The only reason you'd want this dragon in there is if it was going to be the last dragon you played from your hand, which isn't what you want to be doing with your 4-drop. It's a burn/all-in aggro or nothing card, most likely.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:48
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Bugsy posted:Looks like a promo because that's the FNM PTE right behind it. Maybe the launch promo? Yeah, MTGS is guessing at launch promo since those are often just uncommons (e.g. Heir of the Wilds) and have dates/stamps on them.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:51
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Angry Grimace posted:Yeah, MTGS is guessing at launch promo since those are often just uncommons (e.g. Heir of the Wilds) and have dates/stamps on them. Launch cards are (bad) Rares. Game Day cards are Uncommon for the Participation one and Rare for the Top-8 one. FNM Promo's are usually Commons/Uncommons. Heir was a Game Day Participation card.
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Jun 8, 2015 21:56
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Cernunnos posted:Launch cards are (bad) Rares. Game Day cards are Uncommon for the Participation one and Rare for the Top-8 one. FNM Promo's are usually Commons/Uncommons. It doesn't seem like a full-art or special card, so I don't know then. But it has a Origins watermark and a stamp/date. Spells like these are going to make Standard a critical mass of Collected Company being really annoying.
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Jun 8, 2015 22:00
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All you dumb carebares who want to play Tron now have driven O-Stone up to 50 bucks. Hope you're proud of yourselves.
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Jun 8, 2015 22:07
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Angry Grimace posted:There was in fact another card that got spoiled that was interesting. Not-Quite-Spellskite. Pretty cool.
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Jun 8, 2015 22:10
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Gyshall posted:Not-Quite-Spellskite. Pretty cool. That is a 1 mana effect for 3 mana. It sucks. Glint was completely unplayable and Mimzzium Skin was spotty at best. Maybe you can steal an aura in magical christmas land once.
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Jun 8, 2015 22:11
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Looks a lot like a date stamped foil from KTK block to me.
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Jun 8, 2015 22:13
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mcmagic posted:That is a 1 mana effect for 3 mana. It sucks. Glint was completely unplayable and Mimzzium Skin was spotty at best. Maybe you can steal an aura in magical christmas land once. I mean they'll probably push to have playable auras like moldervine cloak level spells so stealing one of those is nontrivial. 3 for a 1/4 with flash isn't great but it's also not unreasonable. Also considering it's a horned turtle stapled onto a misdirect effect that kind of more than compensates for the 2 additional mana on this fictional 1-mana redirect effect that sees play.
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Jun 8, 2015 22:16
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Zoness posted:I mean they'll probably push to have playable auras like moldervine cloak level spells so stealing one of those is nontrivial. It's not a relevant body.
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Jun 8, 2015 22:17
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