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Vladimir Putin
Mar 17, 2007

by R. Guyovich
There really not enough professional teams of any sport for most Americans to follow. I mean most sports teams are based in cities and if you live in a far away part of a state you'll have absolutely no kind of connection to those teams. That's got to be some kind of contributor to why college sports are so popular. The Eagles/Steelers example was brought up which is east/west Pennsylvania. Who the hell are you supposed to root for if you live in the middle of Pennsylvania which is hundreds of miles away from either team?

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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

Vladimir Putin posted:

There really not enough professional teams of any sport for most Americans to follow. I mean most sports teams are based in cities and if you live in a far away part of a state you'll have absolutely no kind of connection to those teams. That's got to be some kind of contributor to why college sports are so popular. The Eagles/Steelers example was brought up which is east/west Pennsylvania. Who the hell are you supposed to root for if you live in the middle of Pennsylvania which is hundreds of miles away from either team?

The Eagles or Steelers.

This isn't really hard .

Pope Guilty
Nov 6, 2006

The human animal is a beautiful and terrible creature, capable of limitless compassion and unfathomable cruelty.

Vladimir Putin posted:

There really not enough professional teams of any sport for most Americans to follow. I mean most sports teams are based in cities and if you live in a far away part of a state you'll have absolutely no kind of connection to those teams. That's got to be some kind of contributor to why college sports are so popular. The Eagles/Steelers example was brought up which is east/west Pennsylvania. Who the hell are you supposed to root for if you live in the middle of Pennsylvania which is hundreds of miles away from either team?

According to this map of football fandom by county, probably the Steelers.

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


When in doubt always choose the non-Philly team.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK

Vladimir Putin posted:

There really not enough professional teams of any sport for most Americans to follow. I mean most sports teams are based in cities and if you live in a far away part of a state you'll have absolutely no kind of connection to those teams. That's got to be some kind of contributor to why college sports are so popular. The Eagles/Steelers example was brought up which is east/west Pennsylvania. Who the hell are you supposed to root for if you live in the middle of Pennsylvania which is hundreds of miles away from either team?

Buck the Pennsylvania trend and root for a good team?

FuriousxGeorge
Aug 8, 2007

We've been the best team all year.

They're just finding out.
If you live in a rural nowhere like central PA you root for whoever is designated your local team and so has their games shown every week. It's a TV sport. See also all the big empty states with Broncos fans.

FuriousxGeorge fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Jun 8, 2015

OniPanda
May 13, 2004

OH GOD BEAR




Vladimir Putin posted:

There really not enough professional teams of any sport for most Americans to follow. I mean most sports teams are based in cities and if you live in a far away part of a state you'll have absolutely no kind of connection to those teams. That's got to be some kind of contributor to why college sports are so popular. The Eagles/Steelers example was brought up which is east/west Pennsylvania. Who the hell are you supposed to root for if you live in the middle of Pennsylvania which is hundreds of miles away from either team?

While this is definitely true, it's really much more than that. The cult of college sports is much greater than that of professional sports, even in places that have both. Look at the whole Perdue fiasco. While the lions are and pretty much always have been perineal losers, they're still massively popular even a good ways from Detroit, and their popularity overlaps with the popularity of the Spartans and the Wolverines, but can't even come close. It's a larger part to do with the communities are built around the school, and college marketing is a hell of an industry.

So who wants to donate $10m to me? I absolutely promise I will give you nothing in return!

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

Total Meatlove posted:

This rule needs ', was first featured in a book, or is called Kronum' as an addition.

There goes my plan for a Calvinball league.

woke wedding drone
Jun 1, 2003

by exmarx
Fun Shoe

Vladimir Putin posted:

There really not enough professional teams of any sport for most Americans to follow. I mean most sports teams are based in cities and if you live in a far away part of a state you'll have absolutely no kind of connection to those teams. That's got to be some kind of contributor to why college sports are so popular. The Eagles/Steelers example was brought up which is east/west Pennsylvania. Who the hell are you supposed to root for if you live in the middle of Pennsylvania which is hundreds of miles away from either team?

The number of Packers fans in Seattle says this doesn't make any sense.

Mrit
Sep 26, 2007

by exmarx
Grimey Drawer

SedanChair posted:

The number of Packers fans in Seattle says this doesn't make any sense.

Seattle is mostly transplants these days, and those are the sort who root for the 'good' team. And the Packers have been good for awhile.

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.
I am an idiot

DeathSandwich fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Jun 8, 2015

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!
E: problem solved!

Captain_Maclaine fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Jun 8, 2015

SixFigureSandwich
Oct 30, 2004
Exciting Lemon
In other news, that movie about the history of FIFA and the rise of honest executive Sepp Blatter bootstrapping himself up to greatness made a whopping $607.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-fifa-movie-united-800664

quote:

Writer-director Frederic Auburtin's film beyond bombed in its limited debut in 10 theaters, earning a measly $607 on Friday and Saturday, according to those with access to Rentrak figures. The FilmBar theater in downtown Phoenix reported a gross of just $9, meaning only one person bought a ticket to see United Passions, which details the history of the now-embattled FIFA.

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Not sure you're posting in the right thread, ace.

Edited it if you could do the same :v:

colonel_korn
May 16, 2003

Did this get posted yet?

http://www.thescore.com/liga/news/777033

quote:

Morocco won the voting process to host the 2010 FIFA World Cup, not eventual host South Africa, and both countries offered bribes to secure votes, according to a report in The Sunday Times.

The newspaper released tapes supporting the allegations that bribes were offered prior to the vote. In the tapes, FIFA executive committee member Ismail Bhamjee of Botswana allegedly revealed that the voting members counted a Morocco win by two votes; the official result saw South Africa winning by four.

Bhamjee apparently told undercover reporters that he believed the votes were intentionally miscounted.


The paper also reported that FIFA vice president Jack Warner accepted a $1-million bribe from Morocco, but eventually voted for South Africa instead. Ahongalu Fusimalohi, a former FIFA ex-co member from Tonga, admitted he was offered a $150,000 bribe from the Moroccans that he refused, but others accepted, according to the report.

Warner has also been accused of demanding a $7-million bribe to vote for Egypt by the country's former sports minister, while there have also been allegations that a $10-million sum paid to Warner by South Africa in 2008 was a bribe to secure his vote.

South Africa's organised and serious crime unit is now investigating the World Cup bidding process.

Unfortunately the original Times article is paywalled: http://www.thesundaytimes.co.uk/sto/news/uk_news/fifa/article1565843.ece

DeathSandwich
Apr 24, 2008

I fucking hate puzzles.

So out of curiousity: Who's paying this bribe money to FIFA? Is it the Government themselves or some other political/business entity inside the country that's drafting up these payolas?

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde

DeathSandwich posted:

So out of curiousity: Who's paying this bribe money to FIFA? Is it the Government themselves or some other political/business entity inside the country that's drafting up these payolas?
Most governments actually have to have some accounting, so probably private interests that are guaranteed to get kickbacks/stadium construction contracts, etc.

Wistful of Dollars
Aug 25, 2009

It's also much easier to do in countries that are... lax in their oversight practices.

Bob James
Nov 15, 2005

by Lowtax
Ultra Carp

World Cup stolen from Morocco. What organisation would help Morocco in order to right this wrong?

quote:

Relations between the Kingdom of Morocco and the United States date back to the earliest days of U.S. history. Morocco remains one of America's oldest and closest allies in the Middle East and North Africa, a status affirmed by Morocco's zero-tolerance policy towards al-Qaeda and their affiliated groups. Morocco also assisted the U.S. CIA with questioning al-Qaeda members captured in Afghanistan, Iraq, Indonesia, Somalia and elsewhere during the administration of George W. Bush, who designated the country as a Major Non-NATO Ally.

Morocco became the first country to formally recognize the United States as an independent nation.[1] Formal U.S. relations with Morocco date from 1787 when the United States Congress ratified a Treaty of Peace and Friendship between the two nations.[2] [3] Renegotiated in 1836, the treaty is still in force, constituting the longest unbroken treaty relationship in U.S. history, and Tangier is home to the oldest U.S. diplomatic property in the world. Now a museum, the Tangier American Legation Museum is also the only building outside of the U.S. that is now a National Historic Landmark.[4]

:dogbutton:

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

John Dough posted:

In other news, that movie about the history of FIFA and the rise of honest executive Sepp Blatter bootstrapping himself up to greatness made a whopping $607.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-fifa-movie-united-800664
I don't even know why it was released in theater in the US considering it went for straight to DVD release in Europe and no one cared.

FuriousxGeorge
Aug 8, 2007

We've been the best team all year.

They're just finding out.

OniPanda posted:

While this is definitely true, it's really much more than that. The cult of college sports is much greater than that of professional sports, even in places that have both.

It depends entirely on what place you are talking about. Philadelphia has a college football team in (hahahaha) Temple but the cult of the Eagles is the biggest in town and as crazy as any college fanbase in most ways. Same thing in Pittsburgh, Steelers rule that town.

On the other hand, there are some ways the college craziness will always be greater. No pro coach could ever get the untouchability and local sainthood Joe Paterno did. That's what happens when you have these programs that can fill 100,000 seat stadiums in the middle of nowhere in college towns so dependent on the college the town is literally named, "State College, PA."

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

FuriousxGeorge posted:

No pro coach could ever get the untouchability and local sainthood Joe Paterno did.

You make this sound like a bad thing.

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Toplowtech posted:

I don't even know why it was released in theater in the US considering it went for straight to DVD release in Europe and no one cared.

Probably some sort of contractual obligation

FuriousxGeorge
Aug 8, 2007

We've been the best team all year.

They're just finding out.

ayn rand hand job posted:

You make this sound like a bad thing.

Funny, because I would think saying a system gives a child rape approving guy sainthood would be read as not an endorsement of that system.

Eschers Basement
Sep 13, 2007

by exmarx

FuriousxGeorge posted:

On the other hand, there are some ways the college craziness will always be greater. No pro coach could ever get the untouchability and local sainthood Joe Paterno did.

Eschers Basement fucked around with this message at 01:12 on Jun 9, 2015

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Toplowtech posted:

I don't even know why it was released in theater in the US considering it went for straight to DVD release in Europe and no one cared.

The free screener in LA had two people in the audience.

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax

FuriousxGeorge posted:

It depends entirely on what place you are talking about. Philadelphia has a college football team in (hahahaha) Temple but the cult of the Eagles is the biggest in town and as crazy as any college fanbase in most ways. Same thing in Pittsburgh, Steelers rule that town.

Even worse, Pitt actually has a pretty good college football history, though not a good history of having fans actually attend games.

FuriousxGeorge
Aug 8, 2007

We've been the best team all year.

They're just finding out.

Ran out of town on a rail just for losing a few seasons. Not at all comparable to Joe "I approve of raping children" Paterno.

Space Gopher
Jul 31, 2006

BLITHERING IDIOT AND HARDCORE DURIAN APOLOGIST. LET ME TELL YOU WHY THIS SHIT DON'T STINK EVEN THOUGH WE ALL KNOW IT DOES BECAUSE I'M SUPER CULTURED.

Toplowtech posted:

I don't even know why it was released in theater in the US considering it went for straight to DVD release in Europe and no one cared.

quote:

BIALYSTOCK
You were saying that under the
right circumstances, a producer
could make more money with a flop
than he could with a hit.

BLOOM
(smiling)
Yes, it's quite possible.

BIALYSTOCK
You keep saying that, but you don't
tell me how. How could a producer
make more money with a flop than
with a hit?

BLOOM
It's simply a matter of creative
accounting. Let us assume, just
for the moment, that you are a
dishonest man.

It's not quite Springtime for Hitler, but movies are a fantastic way to launder money. There are lots of people to pay, there's creative accounting even in successful productions, and nobody's going to think twice about millions of dollars vanishing into the Sepp Blatter biopic.

Space Gopher fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Jun 9, 2015

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

FuriousxGeorge posted:

Funny, because I would think saying a system gives a child rape approving guy sainthood would be read as not an endorsement of that system.

Eh, I misread your post. My bad.

BI NOW GAY LATER
Jan 17, 2008

So people stop asking, the "Bi" in my username is a reference to my love for the two greatest collegiate sports programs in the world, the Virginia Tech Hokies and the Marshall Thundering Herd.

Cliff Racer posted:

Even worse, Pitt actually has a pretty good college football history, though not a good history of having fans actually attend games.

Pitt had decent attendance when they were at Forbes on campus. Their biggest mistake was moving to Heinz.

Chokes McGee
Aug 7, 2008

This is Urotsuki.

Pope Guilty posted:

According to this map of football fandom by county, probably the Steelers.



If you open this in Google maps and zoom way way way in on Louisville you can literally see my location as a single dot of black

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

DeathSandwich posted:

So out of curiousity: Who's paying this bribe money to FIFA? Is it the Government themselves or some other political/business entity inside the country that's drafting up these payolas?

In the South African case the $10 million was diverted at the request of the South African World Cup Organising Committee from it's budget provided by FIFA , a bunch of letters have been leaked confirming that South African Football Association requested the money be diverted ostensibly to fund a Diaspora Legacy Programme that was part of their bid - however they do go out of their to specify that the money be specifically transferred to Warner.

Also, over the weekend the South African Sunday Times leaked an email between Jerome Valcke and the deputy finance minister that indicated this was arranged directly between Blatter and the then President Thabo Mbeki. The original is paywalled but the Telegraph has a brief description including the offending email:

kustomkarkommando fucked around with this message at 21:20 on Jun 9, 2015

OXBALLS DOT COM
Sep 11, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
Young Orc

Space Gopher posted:

It's not quite Springtime for Hitler, but movies are a fantastic way to launder money. There are lots of people to pay, there's creative accounting even in successful productions, and nobody's going to think twice about millions of dollars vanishing into the Sepp Blatter biopic.

See also: porn and Bollywood

Alkydere
Jun 7, 2010
Capitol: A building or complex of buildings in which any legislature meets.
Capital: A city designated as a legislative seat by the government or some other authority, often the city in which the government is located; otherwise the most important city within a country or a subdivision of it.



Space Gopher posted:

It's not quite Springtime for Hitler, but movies are a fantastic way to launder money. There are lots of people to pay, there's creative accounting even in successful productions, and nobody's going to think twice about millions of dollars vanishing into the Sepp Blatter biopic.

I wouldn't be surprised if this is one time the blatant laundering through the movie is noticed, if only because it all gets caught in the RICO net as yet another thing to throw at Blatter.

SNAKES N CAKES
Sep 6, 2005

DAVID GAIDER
Lead Writer

It takes a particularly lazy mind to translate "il y a quelques semaines" as "there are few weeks". All the warning signs were there.

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

SNAKES N CAKES posted:

It takes a particularly lazy mind to translate "il y a quelques semaines" as "there are few weeks". All the warning signs were there.

Yes. That is some bad knowledge of French :psyduck:

Slaan
Mar 16, 2009



ASHERAH DEMANDS I FEAST, I VOTE FOR A FEAST OF FLESH
Jerome is a French name, and he is the sender, so I think it was bad knowledge of English rather than French? Or it could be both?

SNAKES N CAKES posted:

It takes a particularly lazy mind to translate "il y a quelques semaines" as "there are few weeks". All the warning signs were there.

Attachments: "About WinZip Compressed Attachments.txt"

Who doesn't know how to open a .zip file by 2007?

suck my woke dick
Oct 10, 2012

:siren:I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!:siren:

Put this cum-loving slave on ignore immediately!

Slaan posted:

Jerome is a French name, and he is the sender, so I think it was bad knowledge of English rather than French? Or it could be both?


Attachments: "About WinZip Compressed Attachments.txt"

Who doesn't know how to open a .zip file by 2007?

Fifa executives are people who would agree the internet is a series of tubes.

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OhYeah
Jan 20, 2007

1. Currently the most prevalent form of decision-making in the western world

2. While you are correct in saying that the society owns

3. You have not for a second demonstrated here why

4. I love the way that you equate "state" with "bureaucracy". Is that how you really feel about the state

Slaan posted:

Jerome is a French name, and he is the sender, so I think it was bad knowledge of English rather than French? Or it could be both?


Attachments: "About WinZip Compressed Attachments.txt"

Who doesn't know how to open a .zip file by 2007?

A lot of quite wealthy people over the age of 50 have real trouble with anything remotely modern in technology.

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