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Snapcaster hitting close to $75. I said goddamn. Decision to buy a set at $25 each vindicated as gently caress.
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Wezlar posted:Standard is a really good format right now with multiple top tier decks and playable decks of every type. I really don't understand why people keep saying this Standard is stagnant. It has more rotating diversity than modern at this point. Sure, there are abzan decks and esper dragons decks at every tournament, but there have been diversified top 8s with different decks winning every major standard tournament since January. 
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I mean decklist diversity isn't really a good measure of how -good- or interesting a format is beyond a superficial glance.
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Jun 9, 2015 17:34
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Angry Grimace posted:Snapcaster hitting close to $75. I said goddamn. Decision to buy a set at $25 each vindicated as gently caress.  This is why you buy obviously-eternal-playable stuff when it's still in Standard.
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Jun 9, 2015 17:36
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Angry Grimace posted:Snapcaster hitting close to $75. I said goddamn. Decision to buy a set at $25 each vindicated as gently caress. Jesus. I bought my playset at like $35, $40, $49x2 and I felt dumb about it.
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Jun 9, 2015 17:40
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Jesus. I bought my playset at like $35, $40, $49x2 and I felt dumb about it. If deathrite shaman was unbanned would that make snapcasters cheaper?
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Jun 9, 2015 17:43
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Sickening posted:If deathrite shaman was unbanned would that make snapcasters cheaper? Probably not, because it wouldn't cause people to play less Snapcaster Mages. But Deathrite isn't getting unbanned for the same reason Bloodbraid Elf isn't getting unbanned: Jund/Junk is already a Tier 1 Modern deck without those cards. They unban stuff to enable new strategies or shore up strategies that are lacking, not make existing Tier 1 strategies way better.
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Jun 9, 2015 17:46
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Yawgmoth posted:Well it's a picture of a girl and she's not feeling herself up or otherwise looking like she's about to star in a porno, so it's easy to not realize it's one of Steve's. Yeah, it's uncannily not terrible, by Argyle standards. I just noticed how she's conveniently posing with her spear behind her back, because we can't have that when showing off da bewbz right? And those luscious locks, definitely convenient for combat.
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Wezlar posted:Standard is a really good format right now with multiple top tier decks and playable decks of every type.  but spergs will always complain that Standard isn't good enough
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Jun 9, 2015 17:48
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Sickening posted:Was anybody at the Columbus Premier IQ? How the hell did Hoogland win with this? Well, mystery solved. His opponent apparently conceded to him in the finals.
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Jun 9, 2015 18:00
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Serperoth posted:Speaking of Modern... Fruity Pebbles! Yo thanks for this, I love collecting silly combo decks.
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Jun 9, 2015 18:01
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Onmi posted:Aggressive mythics. Aurelia's Fury is not great to say the least. It would best slot into a control deck that's look for a convenient way to shut someone up for a turn, but that's really all it does. The problem with Fireballs is that you want to get as much damage through as possible and getting X-1 or X-2 damage, where X is the mana you put in isn't great. Equipment is also iffy. While it looks good, you have to think about the costs involved. With Godsend, you have to spend six mana before you get a small +3/+3 boost and pseudo unblockability. Level up cards are interesting in that once you run out of cards, you can put your excess mana towards them. However, the catch is that they aren't particularly good or useful until later on, which runs contrary to what you're trying to do. Prophetic Flamespeaker is a nice card but not in the deck you're trying to run. He gets exceptionally better as you give him more power, which means you want to pump him up with spells, putting him in a weird place where he's a tad too slow for aggro, a tad too small for midrange. Heliod is bleh. Purphoros is interesting in that he turns everything you play into direct damage, though he works best in token-esque strategies. He could work, but I don't have much experience with him. HOWEVER, Elspeth classic and Hero of Bladehold are both fantastic mythics for your kind of strategy. Elspeth constantly puts out dudes and gives reach with her second ability. The additional, less obvious, ability is that she requires that she be answered by the opponent. This works in your favor since you can force them into an awkward position where they're trying to get rid of Elspeth while also dealing with the rest of your board. Hero of Bladehold is also good in that she puts out fantastic amounts of damage, gives you more creatures to attack with, and pumps everyone else you have. Just keep in mind, tokens are just creatures. You want more creatures to get more damage and she gives you that in addition to MORE damage still. There's pretty much nothing not great about Hero of Bladehold if you want her to top off your curve.
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Jun 9, 2015 18:05
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Esser-Z posted:It's not a lens flare! It's part of the MAGIC!  My favorite counterspelling art.
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Jun 9, 2015 18:11
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Ramos posted:Aurelia's Fury is not great to say the least. It would best slot into a control deck that's look for a convenient way to shut someone up for a turn, but that's really all it does. The problem with Fireballs is that you want to get as much damage through as possible and getting X-1 or X-2 damage, where X is the mana you put in isn't great. Equipment is also iffy. While it looks good, you have to think about the costs involved. With Godsend, you have to spend six mana before you get a small +3/+3 boost and pseudo unblockability. Noted   I love the Reckoners and Iroas, but I feel like if some cards need to be dropped they're probably on the top of the list. The question is now what to remove?
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Jun 9, 2015 18:18
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Zemyla posted:
Yeah this is my second favorite next to FOW. Muscle wizards are the best.
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Jun 9, 2015 18:21
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Angry Grimace posted:Snapcaster hitting close to $75. I said goddamn. Decision to buy a set at $25 each vindicated as gently caress. woot, bought my playset at $18
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Jun 9, 2015 18:21
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Zoness posted:I was pretty sure Cavotta did overall flavor design or flavor text or something unless a recent development has seen him leave wotc. He did some drive to works w/ maro around a year ago iirc? Yeah he gets rides to work regularly. He said something to the effect of he's happy for the game's art because it's advanced to the point where it doesn't need his work anymore. In other words he thought he wasn't good enough to be doing art for the game. Based on of the art in the last few sets I'm not entirely sure I agree. TheKingofSprings posted:That would be a reprint, but thank you for playing "I WISH THEY WOULD DO THIS THING!" *evidence of thing* "THAT'S A REPRINT IT'S NOT A REAL CARD" Also there was sorcery Ancestral Recall, 2 mana instant speed Ancestral Visions, 1 mana Goyf/Azure Mage combo, a 1 mana 5/5, a 1 mana 1/2 hasty Grapeshot, a 4 mana 4/5 trample Lightning Helix, a 1 mana Negate, a nigh-unkillable giant dragon who almost-Impulses every turn, almost-Impulse, a 0-mana 4 damage burn spell, several 3 mana 4/4s with absurd abilities, 4 really strong charms and a 5th ok one (alas poor RUG Charm,) an enchantment that gives all your creatures Grapeshot and untaps them so they can Grapeshot some more, and a ton of other stuff I'm probably missing because I just woke up and haven't played standard in over a year. I'm pretty sure power's not what standard is missing. Angry Grimace posted:Snapcaster hitting close to $75. I said goddamn. Decision to buy a set at $25 each vindicated as gently caress. My decision to buy foils 6 months ago also turning out pretty well.  I wish I'd gotten a 5th for my cube!  Also Contradict has pretty cool art. I've got a Russian foil that looks pretty nice.
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Jun 9, 2015 18:25
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Onmi posted:I love the Reckoners and Iroas, but I feel like if some cards need to be dropped they're probably on the top of the list.
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Jun 9, 2015 18:28
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Can Kai count? -- I hold Circular Logic near and dear   And another Anthony S. Waters special  
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C-Euro posted:Also remember that starting this fall, the amount of time that a given set is Standard-legal is going to be decreasing, which on paper should make Standard feel a little more fresh over a given time period. It's actually next spring that this happens. Or last fall depending on how you're counting it.
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Jun 9, 2015 18:35
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Babylon Astronaut posted:Is the Akroan Hoplite pulling its weight? It seems worse than monastery swiftspear. Hm.... well mostly Hoplite is good when you have a legion loyalist on the field in the mid-late game area. Legions Initiative makes him a 2/3 and then attacking with minimum 2 other monsters (one being Loyalist) turns him into a 5/3 with first strike and trample. His lack of haste hurts, but he's actually a Bear disguised as a 1/2. My deck also really doesn't have many ways to boost a Prowess Swiftspear with only 4 Bolts and 3 Boros Charms.
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Complicate is a funny counterspell art also I like to imagine that's the pose Kai should have been doing: Also Double Negative looks p rad:  Also because moonfolk are rad hinder gets a mention: 
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Serperoth posted:The last block included two cards banned in Legacy and Modern, one of which is restricted in Vintage, a card that is already a Modern all-star and reprinted fetchlands. 2 of those were considered mistakes for the format (whether or not Dig actually is that is another story) and removed, and fetchlands did a lot to lower the barrier for entry, but did little to change the structure of the format. Tasigur is an insanely cool card, and along with Monastery Mentor is one of my favorite cards in recent memory. None of these change the fact that Theros was in the last two years and was pretty dire for eternal formats.
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Jun 9, 2015 18:38
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Zemyla posted:
This wizard, he smells quite bad and thats how he counters magic
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TheKingofSprings posted:None of these change the fact that Theros was in the last two years and was pretty dire for eternal formats. Keranos, Brimaz, Thoughtseize (yeah yeah reprint), Courser, Eidolon... That's just off the top of my head, I wouldn't call 4 playables "pretty dire"
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Jun 9, 2015 18:41
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Snapcaster going up to 75 makes me want to vomit. And also pretty much solidifies that I won't be playing any deck running them for a long while. Same with Goyf but that's never changing.
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Jun 9, 2015 18:44
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Serperoth posted:Keranos, Brimaz, Thoughtseize (yeah yeah reprint), Courser, Eidolon... That's just off the top of my head, I wouldn't call 4 playables "pretty dire" Who is playing Courser in any format? Brimaz is like a fringe playable in modern. Keranos is a 1-2 of in sideboards. Eidolon is the only card that has actually made a big splash.
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Sigma-X posted:Who is playing Courser in any format? Brimaz is like a fringe playable in modern. Keranos is a 1-2 of in sideboards. Courser was played in modern Jund for a while for some reason. I always said it was terrible but people argued with me. I'd actually consider one in the board for the grindy mirror. Brimaz is a 1-of in Death and Taxes.
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Zoness posted:Also Double Negative looks p rad: it took me forever to realize this was specifically meant to counter cascade spells, im a good magic player 
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Serperoth posted:Keranos, Brimaz, Thoughtseize (yeah yeah reprint), Courser, Eidolon... That's just off the top of my head, I wouldn't call 4 playables "pretty dire" Hasn't Eidolon been seeing some eternal play? Onmi posted:Curve stuff. I'd love to give a direct answer to this, but this is probably going to be more of personal preference for you. There's a lot math that goes on with mana curves and it's just going to have to require some fine tuning on your part to fit your needs based on what's actually in the deck. If you want some homework, you can start by reading this article on it. Still, you're going to need to cut a lot of the stuff at four mana and figure out not necessarily which cards are good, but which ones are better than similarly costed cards.
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Sweepers: W: wrath U: upheaval/evacuate B: damnation, mutilate R: pyroclasm, joukelops, G: hurricane? WU: verdict WB: culling sun, that one from RTR WR: razia's whatever WG: ? UB:? UR: ? UG: ? BR: void? BG: deed & variants RG: savage twister, the shadowmoor one. Some of them don't seem like sweeper colors, WG for example, but BR seems like it should have something better than void. Did I miss cards? Edit: Simple, fracturing gust for wg
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Sigma-X posted:Who is playing Courser in any format? Brimaz is like a fringe playable in modern. Keranos is a 1-2 of in sideboards. Yeah, I don't think its really arguable that Theros was not a great block for Modern or Legacy. Then again, his stated argument wasn't "Theros sucks," it was "WOTC doesn't print good cards in Standard anymore." But then it seems like his actual argument actually is "Theros sucks" since that's the only block that really supports the premise that WOTC doesn't print eternal viable cards in Standard. 
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Molybdenum posted:Sweepers: Do you count Novablast Wurm in WG? Also U/B gets Soulquake.
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suicidesteve posted:Courser was played in modern Jund for a while for some reason. I always said it was terrible but people argued with me. I'd actually consider one in the board for the grindy mirror. Brimaz is a 1-of in Death and Taxes. Brimaz can be a 1-of but he's really mediocre in the deck. Ramos posted:Hasn't Eidolon been seeing some eternal play? He believed all of the cards listed were seeing eternal play, although given how few of them actually were I can understand the confusion.
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Molybdenum posted:Sweepers: Lots of them. Decree of Annhilation, Crux of Fate, End Hostilities, Day of Judgment, Nevinyrral's Disk, Anger of the Gods, Terminus, Rout, Breaking Point
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Angry Grimace posted:Yeah, I don't think its really arguable that Theros was not a great block for Modern or Legacy. Yeah I didn't particularly like Theros either, but Wizards has no issues with printing playable cards, is my point.
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Angry Grimace posted:Yeah, I don't think its really arguable that Theros was not a great block for Modern or Legacy. Compare the average power level of Theros-KTK to Ala-Zen, Zen-Scars or Scars-Inn and the number of eternal playables that came out of those standards. Incidentally, I would imagine you'd find about the same number of playables in KTK as Alara, the two are similar in structure and average power level
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Sigma-X posted:Brimaz can be a 1-of but he's really mediocre in the deck. Thassa and Master of Waves are played in fish.
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