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Koesj posted:I always thought they were supposed to be some kind of fake Libyan Air Force in that volleyball movie, not USSR. Yeah, but you know they were meant to be *secretly* Soviet pilots. At least if I'm watching the same homoerotic movies as you are.
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Capt. Morgan posted:"An F-5N Tiger II, belonging to U.S. Marine Corps Fighter Training Squadron 401 (VMFT-401), approaches Marine Corps Air Station Yuma for a landing, flying over a busy 32nd Street in the process. The squardon, known as the "Snipers", is the only adversary squadron in the Marine Corps. Referred to as "aggressors," the squadron serves as the enemy in air-to-air combat situations" Got to work out of the VMFT-401 DET 1 hangar down at MCAS Miramar last December, and holy moly, F-5N's are tiny, like supercub tiny, but they look like a blast to fly. The Agressor paint schemes were awesome too.
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Dead Reckoning posted:Sounds like the premise for an "In the Loop" style comedy. GRU agent plants the idea for VTOL to gently caress up Western fighters. A KGB agent brings it back after spying on a high level meeting. The design bureaus are unconvinced, but the fiery new Premier doesn't want to appear weak on defense and refuses to allow a VTOL gap. Soviet Engineers analyzed the Shuttle when it was under development, and came to the conclusion that it was not a very good design. That didn't stop the military from insisting that engineers copy the design, least it have some sort of secret military advantage they couldn't see.
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655321 posted:So after reading this thread, Udvar-Hazy seems like the place to go. I found myself stuck at Dulles last night because of the weather while on a layover going from Montreal to Phoenix. We have all day so I thought we'd check it out seeing as everyone loves it. Any tips/must-sees that aren't on the beaten path? We are pretty excited. I was there a couple weeks ago. I would skip the tower unless you've got a hard on for ATC stuff. Have fun! Tons of great stuff there. I can't wait to go back!
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YF19pilot posted:Yeah, but you know they were meant to be *secretly* Soviet pilots. At least if I'm watching the same homoerotic movies as you are. The original script had them as North Koreans, then Yugoslavian, then vaguely Soviet.
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Lou Takki posted:I was there a couple weeks ago. I would skip the tower unless you've got a hard on for ATC stuff. Yeah, the tower is only interesting if they're landing planes from one specific direction on one specific runway (1R/19L from the south) -- it doesn't really have a good view of everything else unless you've got one hell of a zoom lens or some nice binoculars. I went up there at the end of my last trip and it was really just a few minutes of enjoying a nice sunny day and watching a line of 737s taxi and take off facing away from me. UH can be done in a day so just start with what you're most interested in and move in a circle or something, I don't know. If you can, I'd like to see the current state of the restoration hangar. Always nice to see how things change over time in there, it's a cool process.
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Thanks guys! I got plenty of pictures of the restoration hangar, and everything else too. It was awesome. Will upload when I return!
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Nebakenezzer posted:Soviet Engineers analyzed the Shuttle when it was under development, and came to the conclusion that it was not a very good design. And their conclusion is correct. Every time I look into the shuttle, I'm amazed it ever worked.
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Nerobro posted:Every time I look into the shuttle, I'm amazed it ever worked. Did it? I mean, getting people in and out of space with only a 1 in 67.5 chance of getting killed isn't exactly a lofty bar.
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bull3964 posted:Did it? Apollo was 1 in 12 if you're counting it like that. Well, 1 in 16 I guess really, Skylab and Apollo/Soyuz was the same hardware.
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hobbesmaster posted:Apollo was 1 in 12 if you're counting it like that. ASTP and the manned part of Skylab were just Saturn 1B weren't they? And the Saturn V uses would be You could count Apollo 4, 5 and 6 I guess, in a pinch, but they were unmanned, and that's where you'd want to include the Saturn V used in Skylab SL-1. If you DO want to include Saturn 1B launches, then there were a bunch more Apollo program launches manned and unmanned that would bring the success rate up pretty high. e: Apollo 1 was only a Saturn 1B on the pad, so that doesn't count as a failure of the Saturn V either, and technically wasn't even a Saturn 1B failure, since both Apollo 1 and Apollo 13 were CSM failures, we can blame North American. If we're being nitpicky, that is. SybilVimes fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Jun 9, 2015 |
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hobbesmaster posted:Apollo was 1 in 12 if you're counting it like that. Well, sample size counts for something. Apollo 1 was also during the testing phase.
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Crossposting from the TFR Cold War thread:Party Plane Jones posted:http://gfycat.com/FittingSourHalicore
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Party Plane Jones posted:Crossposting from the TFR Cold War thread: "Objects in Mirror May Appear...oh wait. poo poo."
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The video that gif is from is better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DogRTw3cJNQ
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Previa_fun posted:The video that gif is from is better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DogRTw3cJNQ There are not enough "nopes" in the entire world.
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Party Plane Jones posted:Crossposting from the TFR Cold War thread: Previa_fun posted:The video that gif is from is better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DogRTw3cJNQ God drat that owns and I love the reverse angle where the cameraman had a nice expression of "HNNGH nope, wasn't ready for that!" when they snap to inverted.  The Locator posted:There are not enough "nopes" in the entire world. I'm the exact opposite of this ^^^^ - all the YEP's!!! in the entire world and I need to figure out how to work my media connections/job to get either a backseat media ride (that'll never happen) or a media ride on Fat Albert when they come in for Sea Fair this year or next. 
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Previa_fun posted:The video that gif is from is better: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DogRTw3cJNQ 
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Duke Chin posted:I'm the exact opposite of this ^^^^ - all the YEP's!!! in the entire world and I need to figure out how to work my media connections/job to get either a backseat media ride (that'll never happen) or a media ride on Fat Albert when they come in for Sea Fair this year or next. I'd be all over the Fat Albert ride, but that upside down poo poo is for someone a lot younger than me.
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y'all are weenies. I'd take that ride / pay a reasonable amount of  / be the mouth piece for the navy for the next year for that flight in an instant.And if you're younger than 38½, The Locator, you're an extra huge wuss.
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Duke Chin posted:And if you're younger than 38½, The Locator, you're an extra huge wuss. I'll be 50 in a couple months, and I'm not a huge fan of upside down stuff, never have been (the upside down rides at the amusement parks are not fun at all, even when I was a teenager and loved doing all kinds of stupid poo poo).
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Same guy, same ride: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ZImEJWg6s No g suit.
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The Locator posted:I'll be 50 in a couple months, and I'm not a huge fan of upside down stuff, never have been (the upside down rides at the amusement parks are not fun at all, even when I was a teenager and loved doing all kinds of stupid poo poo).  Previa_fun posted:Same guy, same ride: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ZImEJWg6s Stop it this is just making me want to do it even more and I know I'll never get the shot. t  t
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SeaborneClink posted:Louie CK held that together longer than I thought he would Ah damnit.
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Previa_fun posted:Same guy, same ride: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ZImEJWg6s You have to do that dumb grunting thing if you have a g suit too.
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Dannywilson posted:Got to work out of the VMFT-401 DET 1 hangar down at MCAS Miramar last December, and holy moly, F-5N's are tiny, like supercub tiny, but they look like a blast to fly. The Agressor paint schemes were awesome too. Dusk was when WTI got really boring when I was TDY out there for a week.
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       The main attraction in the restoration hangar is that B-26. Totally awesome.
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bull3964 posted:Did it? Yes. I could make a very good argument for yes. 98.8% success rate... I won't say that's great, when you compare it to driving a car, but look at the competition: Soyuz has flown 125 times I think. Soyuz 1 was a failure. Soyuz 11 was a failure. Both crews died. Soyuz 17 failed. Soyuz 28 blew up on the pad. That puts Soyuz at 98.4% success rate, versus the shuttle at 98.8. If you are only counting failure to get home. If you count all the times you didn't get to space too? Well that puts you at 96.8%. Nobody else has sent people to space enough to really get good statistics... Though I understand china's program is worse than playing craps. Lets forget carrying men to space, of Proton launches in the last five years; Something like 48 launches and five failures. You've only got something like a 89% chance of your payload getting to space on a proton. I'd say that it worked. Going to space is hard. The shuttle was a complex machine.
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655321 posted:The main attraction in the restoration hangar is that HO-229. Totally awesome. FTFY
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drunkill posted:FTFY Yeah that thing is awesome. I just meant that they had signs talking about that B-26 and a lot of info on it. It just seemed like the thing they talked about most there.
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Piloting that 229 looks like it would be really loud, and uncomfortably warm.
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The Ho-229 is a prototype fighter that probably only flew a handful of times, and is probably the only surviving experimental Nazi jet. It's cool and all, but... ...Flak Bait has over 200 combat missions over Europe, the record for a combat airframe during WWII. ...The JRS-1 in the backround was on the ground, stationed at Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941. ...The white triangle under the starboard wing of the JRS-1 is the Lippisch DM 1, an unpowered glider, designed for use as a powered Mach 6+ experiment into high speed aircraft. ...To the right of the DM 1 is the only surviving Nakajima Kikka, a Japanese jet fighter prototype. ...The long silver cylinder wrapped in plastic to the right of the Ho-229 fuselage is a legit Goddard P-series rocket. The Ho-229 is almost the LEAST interesting thing in that room.
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655321 posted:
out of curiosity... People that restore and maintain aircraft for museums and such. Do they make a decent living at all? Because if they do...Is it basically volunteer work?
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Tide posted:out of curiosity... There might be a few paid jobs, but for the most part (at the Boeing restoration place anyway) it's volunteers.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT7qrYi8R_M
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Tide posted:out of curiosity... Not that I know much at all, but the impression I got was that there were a few pay jobs and lots of volunteer work.
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Pod racing scene in the new Star Wars movie is shaping up nicely.
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MrYenko posted:...The white triangle under the starboard wing of the JRS-1 is the Lippisch DM 1, an unpowered glider, designed for use as a powered Mach 6+ experiment into high speed aircraft. Which is perhaps more memorable in it's proposed form as a interceptor powered by a colander full of burning coal dust. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lippisch_P.13a
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