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Headline: Policitian Stops Watching Game of Thrones After Scene Showing Sexual Violence Muir, one week later: "Pfft! You call that a rape scene?"
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Jun 10, 2015 02:41
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Shugojin posted:Yeah this is a show-only scene. There have been a lot of show-only scenes, apparently. Hell they aged Tommen up to like 16 so he could have a sex scene in the show. He's only like eight in the books.
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Jun 10, 2015 02:50
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Small Frozen Thing posted:Just when I thought I couldn't hate Muir more, he brings GoT-chat to this thread there is no escape
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Jun 10, 2015 02:57
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Rorus Raz posted:Did they age up a lot of characters in the shoe? The one thing about the show that really bugged me was people talking about the one girl uh...Danerys? The first book involves marrying her off to some Khan-esque leader for political machinations by her brother. And she's like 14 or so. Most of the younger characters got a boost up to legal-ish since, you know, a lot of the gratuitous sex scenes in the series are creepy-bordering-on-criminal.
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Jun 10, 2015 03:00
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Most of the younger characters got a boost up to legal-ish since, you know, a lot of the gratuitous sex scenes in the series are creepy-bordering-on-criminal. BUT IT'S HISTORICALLY ACCURATE (quietly pulls curtains in front of dragons and zombies)
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Jun 10, 2015 03:03
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Rorus Raz posted:Did they age up a lot of characters in the shoe? The one thing about the show that really bugged me was people talking about the one girl uh...Danerys? The first book involves marrying her off to some Khan-esque leader for political machinations by her brother. And she's like 14 or so. They aged -up all the kids for the show. Danerys is married at 13 (her brother literally makes an if she-bleeds-she-beds comment about it) in the books, and they made her 15 in GoT, They also made her wedding night explicitly into a forcible rape scene, instead of the consensual (as you can have with a 13 year old) one it was in the book.
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Jun 10, 2015 03:07
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Even Orange Is the New Black did this Well iirc the fat black CO is only about as competent as the average CO in that show but more competent than the fat white COs who are banging. Actually now that I think about it she's probably one of the better COs there. Dr. Killjoy fucked around with this message at 03:19 on Jun 10, 2015 |
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Jun 10, 2015 03:09
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achillesforever6 posted:I don't know where you would get that idea from Lol, called it. I dunno, I miss Far Side too but that one doesn't even really work.  DBD is the worst comic I've ever seen. Worse than CAD.
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Jun 10, 2015 03:36
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Rorus Raz posted:Did they age up a lot of characters in the shoe? So many that she didn't know what to do!
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Jun 10, 2015 03:50
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Rorus Raz posted:Did they age up a lot of characters in the shoe? Ed Sullivan?
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Jun 10, 2015 03:57
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Cabinet posted:Has Muir been fully funded already? What the gently caress? If he was then that's quite the jump overnight. Zaphod42 posted:
Welcome to the thread. Stay awhile. I lean towards Ramirez being worse but Muir does suggest assassinating the president every once in awhile. The McCoys are pretty bad too.
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Jun 10, 2015 03:58
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Met posted:Welcome to the thread. Stay awhile. I lean towards Ramirez being worse but Muir does suggest assassinating the president every once in awhile. I've been following and even posting for about 60 pages, and you're like the 3rd person to say "you must be new here"  This isn't my first time seeing DBD. Its just that bad that each new one still surprises me. I don't know how somebody even trying to make a bad comic could come up with this many horrible panels. Each one makes it somehow all the worse.
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Jun 10, 2015 04:03
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We know you're new because the rest of us are all horribly jaded to the point where DBD constantly reaching new levels of horrible and/or laziness is completely expected.
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Jun 10, 2015 04:07
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Jun 10, 2015 04:10
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there wolf posted:They aged -up all the kids for the show. Danerys is married at 13 (her brother literally makes an if she-bleeds-she-beds comment about it) in the books, and they made her 15 in GoT, They also made her wedding night explicitly into a forcible rape scene, instead of the consensual (as you can have with a 13 year old) one it was in the book. What? Why do this, why add rape? How does that improve the plot?
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Jun 10, 2015 04:10
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Zaphod42 posted:I've been following and even posting for about 60 pages, and you're like the 3rd person to say "you must be new here" 60 pages is 2 weeks in this thread. I'm not trying to discourage you, but that's pretty young since this thread has been going on for years (replaced every new year). Muir is definitely top-tier lovely in this thread, yeah. You're absolutely correct.
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Jun 10, 2015 04:12
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:What? Why do this, why add rape? How does that improve the plot? Because it's easier for internet people to get all bent out of shape over.
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Jun 10, 2015 04:13
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:What? Why do this, why add rape? How does that improve the plot? It doesn't, but it does add shock value and viewer ratings for being so *mature* and *realistic*.
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Jun 10, 2015 04:13
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Small Frozen Thing posted:BUT IT'S HISTORICALLY ACCURATE (quietly pulls curtains in front of dragons and zombies) The belief that everyone was married of and having kids in their early teens is a modern myth, it wasn't very common for teenagers to get married and the average age of menarche was higher back then. But whatever zombies, dragons, etc.
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Jun 10, 2015 04:14
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:What? Why do this, why add rape? How does that improve the plot? Personal guess? It was an end-dodge around the ethical question of can a 15 year old consent to sex with a grown man. If it's explicitly forced then they don't have to deal with people possibly criticizing them for showing statutory rape in a positive light.
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Jun 10, 2015 04:18
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there wolf posted:They aged -up all the kids for the show. Danerys is married at 13 (her brother literally makes an if she-bleeds-she-beds comment about it) in the books, and they made her 15 in GoT, They also made her wedding night explicitly into a forcible rape scene, instead of the consensual (as you can have with a 13 year old) one it was in the book. Who was raped in that scene in the books?
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Jun 10, 2015 04:20
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there wolf posted:Personal guess? It was an end-dodge around the ethical question of can a 15 year old consent to sex with a grown man. If it's explicitly forced then they don't have to deal with people possibly criticizing them for showing statutory rape in a positive light. Yeah, probably this. She still falls in love with him regardless. Met posted:Who was raped in that scene in the books? The scene they're talking about is the same character in the show and book. Daenarys is 13-14 in the book, maybe 18 in the show, and is married off to some guy who rapes her, but she respects his strength so much she falls in love with him. The latest rape scene that everyone's been talking about is of a main character in the show, but in the books it was some side-character associated with that main character. They didn't want to "complicate" things by creating a huge plot around this rape with the character it originally happened to, even though that character was already introduced on the show, and it's a pretty loving unnecessary plot in the first place. That Old Tree fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Jun 10, 2015 |
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Jun 10, 2015 04:21
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Edmund Lava posted:The belief that everyone was married of and having kids in their early teens is a modern myth, it wasn't very common for teenagers to get married and the average age of menarche was higher back then. But whatever zombies, dragons, etc. I know, that's why that excuse annoys the gently caress out of me.
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Jun 10, 2015 04:24
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Ugh God I get enough of this from my IRL friends can we not let Muir do this to us.
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Jun 10, 2015 04:43
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Political Whores posted:Ugh God I get enough of this from my IRL friends can we not let Muir do this to us. Sorry, it's just the way the weathervane is pointing in this thread.
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Jun 10, 2015 04:46
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Nostalgia4Infinity posted:Because it's easier for internet people to get all bent out of shape over. Basically the only thing i know is that this is the wrong and obnoxious answer.
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Jun 10, 2015 04:49
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In a frantic effort to head off GoT rapechat, I will point out that the sponsor of today's strip also happens to be the author of the book whose cover is so prominently featured in the second panel.
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Jun 10, 2015 04:50
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Met posted:Who was raped in that scene in the books? No one, at least no forcibly. Danery's is by modern standards to young to consent at 13, but the scene has her husband asking her if he can continue, and her admitting she is enjoying his attentions and requesting to more. The show made it a forcible rape scene. What you're thinking of is something that just happened where they had one of the mains marry and get violently raped by her husband, instead of the secondary character it was in the books. Also the idea that teen marriages didn't happen or weren't common in the 1400's in bunk. Girls, especially upper class ones, were rarely married off as early as twelve but most were married in their mid-to-late teens. Some historians think that a lot of the pre-teen marriages would have included a delay in married life until the participants were older. Catherine of Aragon had some basis for plausible deniability in sleeping with her first husband, even though they shared a household and a bed. Ah man, waited too long to post and missed the call to let it drop.
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Jun 10, 2015 04:53
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The worst thing about Muir is that you can tell the general gist of his awful opinion is before you get it, like Game of Thrones is enough, but you have to parse through the words three or four times to understand what he's trying to communicate because of how horribly he butchers conversational English by trying to insert references or simulate filled pauses with weird mid-sentence dashes.
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Jun 10, 2015 04:55
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Bicyclops posted:The worst thing about Muir is that you can tell the general gist of his awful opinion is before you get it, like Game of Thrones is enough, but you have to parse through the words three or four times to understand what he's trying to communicate because of how horribly he butchers conversational English by trying to insert references or simulate filled pauses with weird mid-sentence dashes. Yeah, you can see the bullshit point he's trying to make but you have to work to understand how he's actually trying to say it. That conversation is so awkward. Bonus points for having the book he's shelling cover up the words in the last panel. (they're on the ouch? Oh.) And the typical DBD horrible red-frame. (why, oh god, why) And what the hell is going on between the book cover and the guy's peach shirt? Why is the cover longer than the spine?! Oh yeah because Miur just 'draws' by dropping primitive shapes on a page and calls it a day when its generally there. Zaphod42 fucked around with this message at 05:01 on Jun 10, 2015 |
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Jun 10, 2015 04:58
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Yes, I think we're losing sight of the fact that Muir just explicitly endorsed "it's not rape if they're married/if she's not literally running and screaming."
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Jun 10, 2015 04:58
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Bicyclops posted:Basically the only thing i know is that this is the wrong and obnoxious answer. He is the mod of GiP When you stare into the abyss and whatnot
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Jun 10, 2015 05:01
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there wolf posted:Also the idea that teen marriages didn't happen or weren't common in the 1400's in bunk. Girls, especially upper class ones, were rarely married off as early as twelve but most were married in their mid-to-late teens. Some historians think that a lot of the pre-teen marriages would have included a delay in married life until the participants were older. Catherine of Aragon had some basis for plausible deniability in sleeping with her first husband, even though they shared a household and a bed. Small Frozen Thing posted:BUT IT'S HISTORICALLY ACCURATE (quietly pulls curtains in front of dragons and zombies)
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Jun 10, 2015 05:01
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I accept there's a man who makes those comics, with his bad Photoshop filters and traced over porn and incomprehensible gibberish spouting confused versions of rightwing talk points and weird sex fantasies, that makes total sense to me, but there are people who fund it, with their money, and that confuses me.
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Jun 10, 2015 05:06
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Hey, you changed your avatar! Anyway, yes, teen marriages are historically accurate. They happened and any attempt to pretend like they didn't happen to discredit a fantasy series you've already discredited for being a fantasy series is pretty dumb, even for you. Either how people actually lived during the Wars of the Roses matters or it doesn't. If you don't think it matters then you don't get to turn around and say 'and it's not like that's even historically accurate!' to backup your argument.
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Jun 10, 2015 05:16
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The ageing up helped to make Martin's writing way less pedophilic hth. He's a good writer for lots of stuff, but is a huge creepy goonlord for sex stuff e: though so are 95% of all fantasy and sci-fi authors so I guess he can be forgiven Ron Paul Atreides fucked around with this message at 05:41 on Jun 10, 2015 |
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Jun 10, 2015 05:38
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Is it possible that this is one of the rare instances where we're supposed to think that liberal sister is correct? Waifu seems unable to defend the horrible point she began to make. Of course, it's all in service of a terrible, terrible sex joke, and it is Muir...
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Jun 10, 2015 05:48
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Jun 10, 2015 05:53
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A seemingly silent exhalation of breath. - A grey dinosaur - a wyatt man
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Jun 10, 2015 05:57
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Subterfrugal posted:A seemingly silent exhalation of breath. Incredibly well done.
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Jun 10, 2015 05:58
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